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Don't be sorry because I am not.
So, you think Tutanota, Mailbox.org, PRQ.se, Protonmail.com, Lavabit, don't have investors and employees?
Not saying I don't understand your side of the story.
I appreciate your response and time. Peace out.
Not really? But good point.
So go with them. Why even try to change the way a business operates (edit - when) that business is not a monopoly especially when you have nearly half a dozen operators to your liking.
Mxroute was recommend to me by an old person. I really trust his recommendations.
Then trust MXR and go with them.
I'm not sure, sis. It seems like the real issue here is about privacy stuff which is heavily politicized especially in the EU.
And,
Not a good idea. If data is not important, none of this matters. If it is important, going with me and not trusting me is bad decision making. If it is important, you do trust me, and me not knowing anything about you is vital, it's so that I can't hold you accountable for the damage you intend to cause.
Experience has taught me that any other scenario is wildly theoretical and never actually occurs in practice. Theory and wishful thinking are fine, but these are the realities I deal in, and they are well informed realities from years of doing business.
I prefer not to provide service to someone who does not trust me, it is better for both of us. No offense meant to anyone. OP should pick one of the services they listed, as they seem comfortable with them.
Sorry I know I said I was gone, was waiting on a slow log grep
@sudoranger Sis? Your point being?
if you don't trust others, just host ur own.
I think mr @jar really want to help me but his investors won't let him.
I am not trying to hide anything, I can even send you all my IDs.
Just wondering, why does a fake email and phone number changes the game with many services these days.
True, but I have been told of things I need to worry and it is not worth it. As email is like IRC now a days. It is mostly public.
For secure communications use XMPP/OMEMO or Signal or better.
That is my point. People asking for it isn't worth it either.
Sorry, I don't know you. I'm a woman so I assume your gender is the same as mine.
Privacy is funny. People should stay away from the Internet and live in a remote island/jungle if they don't like to expose themselves whatnot using a managed email service.
I ship @jar opinion. If they don't trust you then move on, it's not like there's only 1 fish in the sea.
p/s: The most secure communication is to not communicate at all.
Thank you guys!
Both are excellent options! :-)
@MikePT do you allow anonymous sign up for custom domain?
Please tell me this is a joke?
As someone who works at a web host, the most annoying recurring issue we have is customers using email accounts hosted with us as the contact email address on their account. We suspend service for whatever reason (billing, T&C breach etc) and here come the angry "You didn't tell me!" tickets.
We did. But oh look your email account was also suspended. We regularly tell people to get a gmail address or whatever just to ensure we can always wing an email at them if necessary. This is definitely good practice.
I never had a gmail and I am using a couple of services that never needed my email address and I am fine with it. I just contact support somehow usually via XMPP or IRC or whatever they offer. I agree that email is a good idea but should it be mandated? Is my question. Esp. when you are signing up for a emailing hosting service only.
Your privacy worth every penny if you don't trust any 3rd party to even share ur name or number. bcuz they have more deeper insights in reality which is passing data through their servers.. anything could happen for real.
I won't even put my trust on any of those providers who allow almost anonymous customer just bcuz i owned a domain. Balance a bit then you might find ur ideal one.
This isn't about you contacting them, it's about them contacting you.
No. Spammers register domains all the time.
Ok. I didn't know. But again the question remains, how would a phone number and email stop it all?
By itself, it won't. But each piece of genuine personal information that you provide to an online company makes it a bit easier for them to distinguish you (an honest customer) from the horde of abusers out there.
If you're so subversive as to not even attempt to provide what is generally used for most contracts, then just host it yourself. Nobody wants to chance your magical mystery person destroying their business for that almighty $0.02/day.
I follow from provider's side. It seems legit.
Yes. Understood. But there are other managed services that offer what I need already. Hence considering them too.
Do share who you end up with so I can add them to my non-CC blocklist preemptively.
There is no evidence that the OP is planning anything illegal, nefarious or untoward. He is concerned about online privacy. That's legit.
I'm not directly suggesting he is, but if his MX provider doesn't care about their clientele, I probably don't want their traffic.
Fair point
Turning e-mail into a privacy conscious service is like turning Elton John in a duck. He can cover himself with feathers and start quacking, still he's not going the be duck he always wanted to be
I don't think all your recipients are anonymously logging in to their offshore email hosting using custom domains they bought via proxies like njal.la (btw, you'll always have to trust at least someone and someone shall have some sound personal data of your persona and/or of your business)
Chances are your recipients are using GSuite/gmail/outlook/yahoo/yandex. "Perfect ecosystems" like protonmail and tutanota cease to be perfect as soon as not every recipient of yours is using the same service. You're not realistically going to use e.g. protonmail's encryption for non-protonmail recipients or tutanota's special links for non-tutanota recipients as much as you're not realistically going to use GnuPG in the wild or teabag your colleagues just for the sake of it. Convenience always wins
You mention lavabit: even the lavabit developers, once they've re-spawned their services, tried to come up with a new protocol; the problem is always interoperability.
If you have some privacy-conscious peer to privacy-consciously contact, the most straightforward approach would start with picking a tool suited for that job. There's plenty of privacy-conscious apps not necessarily requiring your personal data that aren't email
The most you can get (in the "privacy field") from a managed e-mail service is the assurance your data won't be sold to third parties or inspected for ad purposes or archived without your consent (unless it's a legal requirement), still you'll always have to trust that someone who's juggling data and metadata on your behalf.
Mailbox.org strives to encrypt all your unencrypted incoming e-mail using your OpenPGP keys, that's probably the most you can get.
ticket handling via IRC, sounds so convenient