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Better host it yourself, Sparkpost failed using Blacklisted IP's, now MXRoute fails after my 5th email my Account got temporary disabled,
"We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited, 220 and/or bulk e-mail"
Meh.
That's not a disabled message. That's the SMTP banner for exim...
It's literally saying "Hello, while you're here, please don't send spam."
I tried 3 different emails with different content, still the same, it looks like its disabled. One line text msg and it gets flagged as Spam, neat.
That message is not a flag of spam... it's the SMTP banner. It's the MTA responding to the HELO statement. Every MTA has an SMTP banner.
It says Hello basically
agreed - I only bothered with DKIM because I was curious about it and wanted to see how (or whether) the gmail servers verified domain keys
imo, the 3 things which you definitely should pay attention to are:
That message is not a flag of spam... it's the SMTP banner. It's the MTA responding to the HELO statement. Every MTA has an SMTP banner.
I don't know what the actual problem is... hey this unrelated text has some strong verbiage in it. And it's from an external company: obviously evil. There's no other possibility for explanation on this.
Well, I never looked into MXRoute Banner before, and since something was broken, I focused on that error there.
Which isn't an error but I thought it was.... because my connection got closed after that.
Which did not happend before.
But thanks @Jarland.
Click the +, each point has it's own reason.
Getting your own mail server is good.
But it's a PIA to setup, configure and ensure mails are going the way they're supposed to... Especially for beginners
I have a slightly modified iRedMail setup that allows me to do use Clamav, razor, pyzor, dkim, greylisting, rbl checks etc. for my mail. The mail server usually just sits there behind a pfSense wall that blocks known spammers, malware etc. and I have some domains setup on it with a backup of my Google Apps mails.
Up till here, there're no problems but...
I am getting a 10/10 over at mail-tester.com and port25.com shows pass, ham values to my email, everything seems OK, emailsecuritygrader.com gives me a %93 score (due to closed pop3 I think)
I have DMARC, DKIM, SPF, RDNS records and a clean IP. I'm even whitelisted at dnswl.org
But when I send the same test mail to Gmail and Hotmail (My server is added to DB), even though both of them give SPF: PASS, Authentication: PASS, DKIM: PASS, DMARC: PASS, I have to collect my mails from the Spam folder
Imagine that...
Sounds like you may have one of the hated domain extensions. For example, despite owning live.nl, Hotmail will drop emails from a .nl domain nearly every single time. I only say nearly because I assume it can't be every time, but I've never seen one go through.
Nope, I have didn't my mail in the first screenshot. It's a pretty common tld
Still, maybe due to Online.net IP range, who knows, I am having trouble getting past some inboxes.
I guess they just match
*turkey*
anywhere and send that to Spam.Haha, perhaps. Who knows...
But then again, any other domain is the same as well.
Our SMTP Relays with Outbound filtering have signing tools like DKIM built-in.
that's a great find emailsecuritygrader.com - thanks!
I ran a mailserver for my clients and myself for several years with 10/10 points. Always employed SPF, DKIM, and DMARC successfully. Had a clean IP. Nevertheless, Hotmail decided that my mails were spam. Never succeeded in delivering one single e-mail into a Hotmail inbox. sigh
Started to gradually switch to MXroute few days ago. I don't think I'll be looking back.
Indeed, interesting tool @nomad. That saves me a lot of time in manual checking -- although I typically end up manually checking anyway...but at least it can sped up the process by giving some hints faster
I just sat one up some minutes ago:
This site has helped me a lot and currently I'm happily enjoying a 10/10 mark! But as you said, you spend time to configure everything and in return you gain knowledge
To answer to OP question... Due to privacy concerns I prefer self-hosted solutions for just about anything that has to do with my data.
Well this is funny. I just tried that mail-tester.com and got 2/10. People seem to be getting my emails so I may just leave it at that.
Honestly not hard to get that if two of the right things go wrong. A bad DKIM key (as opposed to no DKIM at all) hurts the score bad, but recipient servers mostly don't reject for it.
The biggest test is always this: send to hotmail
totally agree - there's just something really nice about being totally in control of your own domains and email and not having to trust the Google machine or worse again pay for something like Office 365
Are you sure it's the .nl domain? Only issues I've seen with Hotmail is that they're anal about SPF.
EDIT: Also... if you're on dnsbl.chile.org (or whatever the fuck it is), good fucking luck... other blacklists I've not seen a solid pattern in.
Yeah, I've dealt with a fair number of .nl domains that they just refused to deliver email from. Haven't honestly dealt with one that did go through. It's the classic "accepts email but never bounces or delivers" situation that they do, and refuse to acknowledge.
I'm quite surprised you've not run into more issues with Hotmail. I actually keep a textexpander entry handy with these links to assure people that they're not alone quite frequently:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail-osend/email-accepted-by-hotmail-but-not-delivered/83621726-60f8-46ce-9416-daf2385acca3
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail-osend/emails-sent-from-my-server-to-hotmail-never-arrive/9625a356-f5a0-4b52-bae4-3ca3d11aeae0
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail-osend/hotmail-accepting-email-from-a-certain-domain-but/c59ad2b0-724e-4ab8-8e52-1c852e37a0de
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail-osend/email-from-a-specific-domain-not-being-delivered/8451e4b0-a5c7-45bc-8f9b-70c876b3b35d
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail-osend/messages-reported-as-250-queued-for-delivery-but/f451cda5-ba7d-45ff-b643-501efe2413dc
For years they've been refusing to acknowledge the situation where they accept email but refuse to deliver it or bounce it. If it happens for an entire IP range you basically have to toss out the range if you have intent on delivering email to them through it. I've got 2 /27s right now that it happens with, and the feedback loops are empty from day one. No response from the form:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866&clcid
If you post on the forum like the people above they run you in circles to check your own server, and they never acknowledge the silent block.
That's an interesting note. I've never seen anyone block for that RBL, or at least not report it back.
So @mailcheap made a claim here that got me interested. I posted here that I'd test it and see if he could deliver. I do believe he can and is delivering on this. I'm running a controlled test right now with his relay platform and it's actually pretty incredible. Figured it'd be kind of me to follow up and note it here
We are waiting for results @jarland how it's going current status
@mailcheap any plans for shared outbound relay/spam filtering for those of us who don't even do 10K emails a month let alone 1Million?
Maybe as an addon to the inbound spam filter product?
Thank you!
The abuse potential is so much more in a shared outbound relay system; maybe in the future
Pavin.
Whilst I understand you want to keep your IP's clean If it's per domain and you enforce the T&C's tightly and apply the same limits as the shared email platform then is it really going to be as much of an issue if the initial email comes from an internal server or an external one?