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Ympker's VPN LTD Comparison Chart

YmpkerYmpker Member
edited March 3 in General

Looking to grab a LTD on Stacksocial for a VPN Service?
Here is a comparison chart featuring all the VPN Services I have a LTD of:
Windscribe Pro, Ivacy, FastestVPN, RA4W VPN, VPNUnlimited/Keepsolid, Getflix.

The following criteria will be assessed: Purchase date, Jurisdicition, Speed, Connection Stability, Own Client, Manual setup protocols available, Torrents, Flix, Cool Extras and whether the LTD has an expiry date set in the client area.

I'll try to update it (especially the speeds table) ever so often :)

Any questions, feel free to ask.

Yes, I'm an LTD addict :)

Comments

  • gksgks Member

    @Ympker I thought you started a company "Ympker VPN LTD", like few countries have "PVT LTD". Thanks for comparison.

    LET === User Enlightened Territory

  • I miss the "Collects and/or sells data" column. Easy to autofill all rows with yes.

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  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited March 3

    @SCAM_DONT_BUY said:
    I miss the "Collects and/or sells data" column. Easy to autofill all rows with yes.

    That's what they all surely do. Or not. I don't know and don't want to. I don't use the VPNs for privacy, really. If it's dirt cheap like these, you sometimes are the product though ;)

    Honestly, I don't think they (all) do. Much more likely that they are cheaply reselling on a no-upfront-investment revenue share system. Like Ivacy and FastestVPN are reselling PureVPN for example. So they don't have much extra costs on their own since they operate (probably) on revenue share.

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  • magicvpnmagicvpn Member

    Ympker said: RA4W VPN

    Their privacy policy has "private internet access promotional offers" in it, so they probably copied it.

    FastestVPN doesn't resell PureVPN. (at least not the locations I used)

  • YmpkerYmpker Member

    @magicvpn said:

    Ympker said: RA4W VPN

    Their privacy policy has "private internet access promotional offers" in it, so they probably copied it.

    FastestVPN doesn't resell PureVPN. (at least not the locations I used)

    Ah, lol.

    I posted this in another thread. Personally, I am really sure FastestVPN is reselling PureVPN or Ivacy. Since Ivacy is reselling PureVPN, it doesn't matter at this point.

    Taken from other thread:

    @Ympker said:

    @jsg said:

    @Ympker said:
    Now, FastestVPN (inofficially) is reselling Ivacy (who is afaik inofficially reselling PureVPN btw).

    Any tangible evidence for that?

    I'm not asking to make trouble but because a closer look at those 3 seems to suggest that they are different entities. So it would be helpful if you could provide some evidence.

    BEFORE you read any of the following, do know, that I am very happy with Ivacy/FastestVPN and it's not necessarily bad that they are allegedly reselling PureVPN. It's not like CC where the hosts just disappear after a few months. And the performance is good enough for that price.

    Anyway, @jsg

    Well, they CAN be different entitities and still resell each other, right? Like any reseller in the web hosting scene, too. I'm just saying both, Ivacy & FastestVPN are (most likely) reselling PureVPN and obtaining it's feature set slowly (Ivacy faster than FastestVPN does).

    Anyway a while back I am pretty sure I ran several tests before I came up with the conclusion that Ivacy resells PureVPN. FastestVPN I didn't test as thoroughly anymore but I am more or less sure they resell PureVPN just the same. Once you see this sorta "scheme" and know at what points to look, you get a bit of a hang for it. Can't remember every bit of research I did but yeah, let's just look at these things:

    1) The similarity in the websites and the features implented as described in OP.

    2) Both, Ivacy & FastestVPN Windows Client are buggy in the same way. Mobile Apps, too. Their browser extension(s) look very similar, too.

    3) Hostnames (Google "Server list PureVPN", then "Server list Ivacy" and also "Server list FastestVPN" and take a look.

    PureVPN: servername.pointtoserver.com

    Ivacy: servername.dns2use.com

    FastestVPN: servername.jumptoserver.com

    4) ch1.dns2use.com is the same IP as ch1.pointtoserver.com (sometimes when pinging ch1.dns2use.com you get 2-3 different IPs as it seems to be flexible somehow but the 81.xxx one is the one PureVPN's ch1.pointtoserver.com has.

    I also ran this IP comparison in the past but seems like they have new IPs/servers now.

    Also I did this a while back (hope it's still accurate:

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    .
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    Anyway: I am honest enough to say I didn't run that many tests on FastestVPN, but I am 99% sure they are reselling PureVPN just like Ivacy. And that's a gut feeling I've developed over time and during my research of Ivacy. Ivacy and FastestVPN being so similar is surely not a coincidence.

    In the end, it's your choice to believe me and/or do your own research.
    Maybe today it's covered up a bit better as when I did the research back then. But also still have screenshots from my first research of IPs regarding Ivacy and PureVPN which also show the same IPs for the both (although the IPs bound to the hostnames are probably not the same today anymore I believe):

    PureVPN is pointtoserver.com:

    Ivacy is dns2use.com:

    Random servers picked from list:

    ch1.dns2use.com --> ch.pointtoserver.com / ch1.pointtoserver.com

    de1.dns2use.com --> de1.pointtoserver.com

    Then, there are also several sources on the WWW to hint on Ivacy reselling PureVPN (I am mostly comparing the two as FastestVPN hasn't grown very popular yet and thus probably is not very often mentioned):


    Source: A comment on https://restoreprivacy.com/purevpn/

    And then there is:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170917071851/https://badcode.pro/blog/ivacy-and-purevpn-rather-questionable

    And also:


    https://restoreprivacy.com/vpn-warning-list/

  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited May 7

    Updated chart to include my latest purchase: Keepsolid Smart DNS Lifetime (28$)

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  • YmpkerYmpker Member

    WIP: Adding a list of LE users that use the VPNs mentioned in my comparison chart:

    • Added KeepsolidVPN. Found a whopping 36 LE users who are using it (probably more that I have missed). List has been updated.

    Next up: Ivacy, FastestVPN, Windscribe Pro. Stay tuned :)

  • @Ympker said:
    WIP: Adding a list of LE users that use the VPNs mentioned in my comparison chart:

    • Added KeepsolidVPN. Found a whopping 36 LE users who are using it (probably more that I have missed). List has been updated.

    Next up: Ivacy, FastestVPN, Windscribe Pro. Stay tuned :)

    You've got me listed twice under Keepsolid. I didn't notice any other duplicates, but you could sort them alphabetically to catch that in the future.

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  • YmpkerYmpker Member

    @TimboJones said:

    @Ympker said:
    WIP: Adding a list of LE users that use the VPNs mentioned in my comparison chart:

    • Added KeepsolidVPN. Found a whopping 36 LE users who are using it (probably more that I have missed). List has been updated.

    Next up: Ivacy, FastestVPN, Windscribe Pro. Stay tuned :)

    You've got me listed twice under Keepsolid. I didn't notice any other duplicates, but you could sort them alphabetically to catch that in the future.

    Thanks, might actually be a good idea :)

  • OujiOuji Member

    I was using their trial, but just pulled the trigger and I'm happy I've done so.

    Now, about your chart. Ivacy actually has Netflix UK, but only for the browser extensions. Although, I tested yesterday on my phone with a random UK server on their app and it worked with Netflix, for some reason. Just a heads up.

    Although I unfortunately do not have Windscribe LTD, I have something like 6 months left with them mostly to be able to watch UK Netflix.

    I hope they do a 12 hour LTD sometime in the future, although highly unlikely.

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  • YmpkerYmpker Member

    @Ouji said:
    I was using their trial, but just pulled the trigger and I'm happy I've done so.

    Now, about your chart. Ivacy actually has Netflix UK, but only for the browser extensions. Although, I tested yesterday on my phone with a random UK server on their app and it worked with Netflix, for some reason. Just a heads up.

    Although I unfortunately do not have Windscribe LTD, I have something like 6 months left with them mostly to be able to watch UK Netflix.

    I hope they do a 12 hour LTD sometime in the future, although highly unlikely.

    I also tried Netflix UK with Ivacy and Netflix did indeed load but I don't think it was UK, neither with Windscribe UK. I was looking for Season 7 of Brooklyn Nine Nine which apparently released on Flix UK. Can you double check if you can find that show using UK Flix Browser extension from Ivacy/Windxcfibe?

  • OujiOuji Member

    Ympker said: I also tried Netflix UK with Ivacy and Netflix did indeed load but I don't think it was UK, neither with Windscribe UK. I was looking for Season 7 of Brooklyn Nine Nine which apparently released on Flix UK. Can you double check if you can find that show using UK Flix Browser extension from Ivacy/Windxcfibe?

    Just checked. For some reason, the UK Windflix didn't work from Windscribe's Mac App. I was able to use both Windscribe and Ivacy UK Netflix's on the browser extension, in Chrome.

    You can look for The Big Bang Theory which is 100% on UK (I have been watching for a while, actually watched yesterday at work).

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  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator

    Just wanted to say nice contribution to the community with your spreadsheet, @Ympker.

    Certainly helpful!

    Thanked by 1Ympker
    Jon Biloh
  • YmpkerYmpker Member

    @Ouji said:

    Ympker said: I also tried Netflix UK with Ivacy and Netflix did indeed load but I don't think it was UK, neither with Windscribe UK. I was looking for Season 7 of Brooklyn Nine Nine which apparently released on Flix UK. Can you double check if you can find that show using UK Flix Browser extension from Ivacy/Windxcfibe?

    Just checked. For some reason, the UK Windflix didn't work from Windscribe's Mac App. I was able to use both Windscribe and Ivacy UK Netflix's on the browser extension, in Chrome.

    You can look for The Big Bang Theory which is 100% on UK (I have been watching for a while, actually watched yesterday at work).

    Thanks for checking. I could indeed find The Big Bang Theory. However, Brooklyn Nine Nine still shows only 5 seasons when season 6 should have aired March 28th in the UK: https://www.tyla.com/entertaining/tv-and-film-brooklyn-nine-nine-season-6-netflix-saturday-20200324

    People saying it's out, not for me though. Same problem like the OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/netflixuk/comments/frf8qr/is_the_brooklyn_ninenine_season_6_available/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

  • OujiOuji Member

    Ympker said: Thanks for checking. I could indeed find The Big Bang Theory. However, Brooklyn Nine Nine still shows only 5 seasons when season 6 should have aired March 28th in the UK: https://www.tyla.com/entertaining/tv-and-film-brooklyn-nine-nine-season-6-netflix-saturday-20200324

    People saying it's out, not for me though. Same problem like the OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/netflixuk/comments/frf8qr/is_the_brooklyn_ninenine_season_6_available/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

    For me using Windflix UK I can see the 6th season. Try perhaps cleaning the cache of the browser or logging out and logging in?

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  • YmpkerYmpker Member

    @Ouji said:

    Ympker said: Thanks for checking. I could indeed find The Big Bang Theory. However, Brooklyn Nine Nine still shows only 5 seasons when season 6 should have aired March 28th in the UK: https://www.tyla.com/entertaining/tv-and-film-brooklyn-nine-nine-season-6-netflix-saturday-20200324

    People saying it's out, not for me though. Same problem like the OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/netflixuk/comments/frf8qr/is_the_brooklyn_ninenine_season_6_available/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

    For me using Windflix UK I can see the 6th season. Try perhaps cleaning the cache of the browser or logging out and logging in?

    Was using the android app this time. Before I'd use the browser. I'll try.

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