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    I'm looking for a cheap server for around 5 EUR

    Hi. I'm looking for a cheap server to be used as a seedbox. Currently I've got 4xARMv7 CPU, 2GB RAM, 100GB SSD, 300Mbit/s running Ubuntu for 4EUR from scaleway.com

    Are there any more cheap servers better than mine? I require 100GB disk space and 200Mbit/s internet.

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    • Check contabo.

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    • ITLabsITLabs Member

      Wait for the next Online Kiredechire

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    • sjkmesjkme Member

      I got a hostsolutions server a while back to use as a seedbox, primarily because it was cheap. 4.5 euros for 1 tb of storage, unfortunately it wasn't worth it. Uploads are extremely slow hovering around 10-50 mb, downloads are good though around 500 mb.

      my seedhost slot costs 6 euros for 1 tb and it's super fast, max's out at 2gb (around 2000 - 2200 mb), if you're looking for a server solely for seeding, get a seedhost slot.

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    • daerraghdaerragh Member
      edited October 5

      Thanks, zuby2402. Contabo looks good. Is their 5EUR server's connection speed any faster than the advertised 200mbit?

      Does anyone know any other good cheap providers?

    • dfroedfroe Member, Provider

      You can also grab a slice (according to your memory requirements)
      https://buyvm.net/kvm-dedicated-server-slices/
      and add a slab to it (as much as you need)
      https://buyvm.net/block-storage-slabs/

      Not the cheapest prices you will find, but Fran has a good reputation here on LET and offers good quality at fair prices.

      If you are not in a hurry, wait for Black Friday offers.

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    • uptimeuptime Member
      edited October 5

      daerragh said: cheap server to be used as a seedbox

      cheap servers are plentiful - some are much better than others but for around €5/m should be plenty of decent options

      but for torrenting ... good choices for that are going to depend on a few things.

      if it's a public tracker that might get some notices sent to your provider, then maybe better to steer clear of Germany. (Maybe someone else has different specific experience with Contabo but in general ... I don't know)

      a buyVM slice in Luxembourg seems to be a reliable, recommended option

      probably a few good deals to be found in other less stringent locations such as France, Netherlands, Romania (etc) ... (And I think Scaleway is indeed a fairly popular choice for the price, but maybe you can do a bit better.)

      While it is probably best to confirm your intended usage is okay with a potential provider (especially concerning disk and network utilization) - most here will probably not be thrilled to be put in a position to say yes to outright ignoring copyright. (They won't.)

      On the other hand some low-key totally legit "Linux ISO" torrents or whatever might be fine if you know what you're doing.

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    • uptime: only private trackers so copyright infringement notices shouldn't be a problem

    • uptimeuptime Member
      edited October 5

      daerragh said: only private trackers

      aha - then the world is your oyster!

      liteserver.nl is pretty nice I think - they'll have good deals on Black Friday but their normal pricing is decent for the quality.

      would expect you'll get plenty more good suggestions, and some offers from providers here.

      But ... looking at the specs / price you've listed for your current deal with Scaleway - that's going to be hard to beat in terms of raw numbers. You'll find better service / more reliable network / and so forth - but maybe consider increasing your budget a bit if you really need 100 GB SSD etc. (Or wait for Black Friday.)

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    • daerraghdaerragh Member
      edited October 5

      100GB minimum but may be HDD. I checked liteserver.nl but contabo looks better. Still, thanks for the suggestion. :)

    • sjkmesjkme Member

      @dfroe said:
      You can also grab a slice (according to your memory requirements)
      https://buyvm.net/kvm-dedicated-server-slices/
      and add a slab to it (as much as you need)
      https://buyvm.net/block-storage-slabs/

      Not the cheapest prices you will find, but Fran has a good reputation here on LET and offers good quality at fair prices.

      If you are not in a hurry, wait for Black Friday offers.

      Block storage slabs are for Vegas kvm slices only, do they allow torrenting in that location?

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    • @sjkme said:

      @dfroe said:
      You can also grab a slice (according to your memory requirements)
      https://buyvm.net/kvm-dedicated-server-slices/
      and add a slab to it (as much as you need)
      https://buyvm.net/block-storage-slabs/

      Not the cheapest prices you will find, but Fran has a good reputation here on LET and offers good quality at fair prices.

      If you are not in a hurry, wait for Black Friday offers.

      Block storage slabs are for Vegas kvm slices only, do they allow torrenting in that location?

      I wouldn't go with BuyVM if you're torrenting. It's "unmetered" bandwidth, but more like if you used it proportially to the amount you paid. If you do some googling you'll find that using 8-10TB is what they expect as a good spot if you had a 2/4GB VPS. It's more there so you don't have to worry about overusage charges or limits for typical VPS hosting purposes like web.

    • creepcreep Member

      @sjkme said:

      @dfroe said:
      You can also grab a slice (according to your memory requirements)
      https://buyvm.net/kvm-dedicated-server-slices/
      and add a slab to it (as much as you need)
      https://buyvm.net/block-storage-slabs/

      Not the cheapest prices you will find, but Fran has a good reputation here on LET and offers good quality at fair prices.

      If you are not in a hurry, wait for Black Friday offers.

      Block storage slabs are for Vegas kvm slices only, do they allow torrenting in that location?

      use torrent over vpn/socks5 .

    • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

      @CyberneticTitan said:

      @sjkme said:

      @dfroe said:
      You can also grab a slice (according to your memory requirements)
      https://buyvm.net/kvm-dedicated-server-slices/
      and add a slab to it (as much as you need)
      https://buyvm.net/block-storage-slabs/

      Not the cheapest prices you will find, but Fran has a good reputation here on LET and offers good quality at fair prices.

      If you are not in a hurry, wait for Black Friday offers.

      Block storage slabs are for Vegas kvm slices only, do they allow torrenting in that location?

      I wouldn't go with BuyVM if you're torrenting. It's "unmetered" bandwidth, but more like if you used it proportially to the amount you paid. If you do some googling you'll find that using 8-10TB is what they expect as a good spot if you had a 2/4GB VPS. It's more there so you don't have to worry about overusage charges or limits for typical VPS hosting purposes like web.

      We say around 100mbit per 4gb of ram, so a 2gb is 15tb in each direction.

      Francisco

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    • I guess I'd use only around 3TB/mo

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    • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

      A slice+slab is a good combo then :)

      Francisco

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      ezzhost.ro

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    • ofitofit Member

      @ITLabs said:
      Wait for the next Online Kiredechire

      Hello. How ofen Online.net do Kiredechire offer? How do you know when it happed? Thanks.

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    • dfroedfroe Member, Provider

      How ofen Online.net do Kiredechire offer?

      Once in a while.

      How do you know when it happed?

      Follow LET. ;)

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    • any other suggestions? i checked all and contabo looks the best

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    • uptimeuptime Member
      edited October 6

      @daerragh contabo looks like some very generous specs for that price (if you're looking at 4 vcores / 8 gb ra / 200 gb ssd for €4.99 ...?) Seems worth a try, maybe it will be more consistent network performance than Scaleway (just speculating - I haven't tried Contabo and it's been a while since I last used Scaleway - they may have improved since then). If I remember correctly @Ympker may have some experience with Contabo, generally pretty good.

      I would just be concerned not to be caught by surprise if you are counting on heavy use of that 200 mbit port, as per: https://contabo.com/?show=vps

      Unlimited traffic: No additional costs due to traffic, you can use 100 Mbit/s without any bandwidth restrictions or throttling. (Only in case your server has an uplink faster than 100 Mbit/s: If average traffic consumption continuously exceeds 100 Mbit/s over a timespan of at least 9 days the connection is switched to 100 Mbit/s)

      I'm guessing it probably won't be a problem if you are planning to use less than 10 tb monthly traffic.

      Anyway - more suggestions certainly seem possible but a lot depends on what your priorities are - more ram? / or cpu? / faster network etc.

      Maybe just keep an eye out for deals here as they come up - check for reviews and second opinions, and try a few to compare for yourself. (Especially if network performance is important to you, since that can vary a lot over different locations.)

      Good luck with your seedbox :)

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    • daerraghdaerragh Member
      edited October 6

      @uptime said:

      Anyway - more suggestions certainly seem possible but a lot depends on what your priorities are - more ram? / or cpu? / faster network etc.

      Fast network is a priority, from the rest I just need 1GB RAM, 1 modern CPU core and 100GB disk.

    • YmpkerYmpker Member
      edited October 6

      @uptime said:
      @daerragh contabo looks like some very generous specs for that price (if you're looking at 4 vcores / 8 gb ra / 200 gb ssd for €4.99 ...?) Seems worth a try, maybe it will be more consistent network performance than Scaleway (just speculating - I haven't tried Contabo and it's been a while since I last used Scaleway - they may have improved since then). If I remember correctly @Ympker may have some experience with Contabo, generally pretty good.

      I would just be concerned not to be caught by surprise if you are counting on heavy use of that 200 mbit port, as per: https://contabo.com/?show=vps

      Unlimited traffic: No additional costs due to traffic, you can use 100 Mbit/s without any bandwidth restrictions or throttling. (Only in case your server has an uplink faster than 100 Mbit/s: If average traffic consumption continuously exceeds 100 Mbit/s over a timespan of at least 9 days the connection is switched to 100 Mbit/s)

      I'm guessing it probably won't be a problem if you are planning to use less than 10 tb monthly traffic.

      Anyway - more suggestions certainly seem possible but a lot depends on what your priorities are - more ram? / or cpu? / faster network etc.

      Maybe just keep an eye out for deals here as they come up - check for reviews and second opinions, and try a few to compare for yourself. (Especially if network performance is important to you, since that can vary a lot over different locations.)

      Good luck with your seedbox :)

      Thanks for the mention ;) I've had a good experience with Contabo and so have a few other LET members here (e.g. @jvnadr , @LeonDynamic , @cybertech , iirc) . The network isn't the best I've seen but for what you pay it's more than fair. If you have any issues/questions you could also check with @contabo_m and/or read the review in my signature.

    • uptimeuptime Member

      well ... I guess the extra ram in the Contabo deal could improve filesystem performance - and you're not paying a premium for it, so might be a good deal for you anyway.

      But if you really just need 1 GB and 1 vcore (and you are sure that will be sufficient) then for €5/m should be able to find something with a faster port (though usually with limited monthly traffic, seems like 1 to maybe 5 TB is more typical at that price).

      And as mentioned previously - "good" network performance is going to depend on a few variables so best if you can try a few to compare how it does for your specific location etc.

      That 100 GB HDD requirement might limit your options a bit - so would consider breaking that part out to a cheap storage deal elsewhere - if you can work with a smaller SSD on your main box. This would open up many more possibilities, for example:

      Hetzner cloud "cx11" for €2.49/m (or even hourly billing if you prefer) gives you 1 vcore with 2 GB ram and 20 GB SSD but also - maybe most interesting for your priorities -> 20 TB traffic with 1 gbit port speed. I think they have a decent network in Europe. You can also add block storage for €0.04 per GB per month (so adding an extra 100 GB would cost another €4/m - and of course you can look for other options for extra storage elsewhere if that's out of your budget).

      While I don't know if the Hetzner setup described above is exactly suitable for your planned use, it might give some idea of what else is out there - and should be relatively easy to try it out and see how it works for you.

      Also definitely would suggest to try a BuyVM Luxembourg "slice" (2 GB for $7/m probably would give best results for your bandwidth needs, but the 1 GB for $3.50 might be worth checking out as well). Note that you would need to wrangle whatever extra storage elsewhere for the time being - though at some point (maybe next year) block storage "slabs" should be available there for $1.25 per 256 GB.

      Should be at least a few other decent options out there but these are examples of deals from reliable providers with offers somewhat close to your preferred budget - so can recommend at least taking a closer look and evaluate how their networks (etc) might work for you.

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    • daerraghdaerragh Member
      edited October 6

      Thank you uptime for suggestions. :) Unfortunately, I'm not good at linux to connect such a "slice" to a "slab". I just wouldn't know how to do it, so I'm looking for a complete VPS or dedi solution where I'd only have to install deluged and configure it.

    • vyas11vyas11 Member
      edited October 6

      You also might want to check with @stockservers they seem quite inactive here lately - but the HDD Germany plan(s) were around what you were looking for.

      Or something similar to @HostDoc 's plans. Just to push the idea further - tell the Doc that you love the fonts in the birthday special thread and would appreciate something customized to suit your needs. For a variety of (valid) reasons that post has evoked some strong reactions, but with very few comments on the offers, many of which still are available.

      Edit: added later : @daerragh you might want to PM @StockServers I see no harm in checking :-)

    • daerraghdaerragh Member
      edited October 6

      Thanks, vyas11. Stockserver looks good however 5GBP machines are out of stock currently.

      Are there any good, slightly more expensive servers for around 7 EUR?

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    • daerraghdaerragh Member
      edited October 7

      I require 1 modern CPU core (e.g. i3) or 2 cores if it's Atom, 1GB ram, 100GB disk and min. 300Mbps. Are there any servers meeting criteria for around 7 EUR?

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    • I require 1 modern CPU core (e.g. i3) or 2 cores if it's Atom, 1GB ram, 100GB disk and min. 300Mbps. The more bandwidth the better. Are there any servers meeting criteria for around 7 EUR?

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    • dfroedfroe Member, Provider

      I doubt you'll get more responses if you open a second thread.

      https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/160607/im-looking-for-a-cheap-server-for-around-5-eur

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    • daerraghdaerragh Member
      edited October 7

      the price has changed, it's 7 EUR now

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    • dfroedfroe Member, Provider

      As already mentioned, a slice&slab combo should be fine.

      "Slice" is just a "marketing term" for a KVM VPS and "slab" means a scalable block storage which appears as a virtual hard disk to your VPS.

      So you just need to order both and create a filesystem on your second data disk (slab). That's it.

      If you are unable for this, I doubt whether an unmanaged VPS on the public internet is a good choice for you. Keep in mind that you must secure your VPS against all those automated brute force attempts, exploits etc., so securely configuring your VPS is a must - which is far more than mounting a second disk and installing a P2P app.

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    • daerraghdaerragh Member
      edited October 7

      dfroe: I've had a VPS since 2015 and although I'm not good at linux, I haven't got any problems with my server running as a seedbox since.

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    • dfroedfroe Member, Provider

      Well, just because you had luck not having hit by a major illnes in the last years usually isn't a good reason to cancel a health insurance..

      For me this sounds a bit like "I have no clue what I am doing but so far I am lucky".
      If somebody abuses your self-managed server, whether you are aware of it or not, you are (usually at least partially) responsible for it. And (usually) you cannot simply hide and run away if something screws up.

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    • uptimeuptime Member
      edited October 7

      @daerragh keep in mind that Scaleway (and kimsufi) traditionally get the same consideration as a gutter near a saloon in the wild wild west - as much as we appreciate them for being what they are, people will not be shocked to find someone taking a piss there.

      So now stumbling into LET from that side of the tracks ... one might expect a bit of gatekeeping to protect the few good, cheap yet performant hosts from being mistreated, by accident or by design. Mostly (with very few exceptions) they're not well-suited for torrenting, given that the seedbox use case is already a grey area even just in terms of disk i/o and network use ...

      While torrenting may indeed be a familiar fact of life for providers as well as users here, it's maybe not the most favorite focus of discussion for this particular forum. If you don't already at least sort of know what you're doing (or are ready and able to learn quickly - it's not exactly rocket surgery) then could be better to just go with a managed service that is prepared to deal with that territory.

      I assume you've already checked https://www.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/ ...?

      All that said ... seek and ye shall find, but probably not served up on a silver platter - even for €7 per month. Maybe just check around and try a few - it may be the case that Contabo or even Scaleway are actually as good as it gets - or you might do a bit better. Generally you're going to get what you pay for (if you're lucky).

      EDIT2:

      There is a search function in the top right corner, query "seedbox" and you'll find a few other threads here ... discussing not much in particular.

      Also might check https://serverhunter.com for your specific requirements - and then come back here to check for reviews or second opinions with regard to network quality, reliability etc.

      Given that some of the concerns about shared resources are solved by using a small dedi, that may turn out to be your best option anyway. Consider recalibrating your budget to raise your expectations a bit and check (for example) worldstream.nl or ikoula.com for affordable options with decent networks. Can use https://metadedi.com to find a few more along those lines.

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    • vyas11vyas11 Member
      edited October 7

      Since by now it is clear that OP is getting in disparate zone though not yet desparate zone....time for some lighthearted fun.

      @dfroe said:
      Well, just because you had luck not having hit by a major illnes in the last years usually isn't a good reason to cancel a health insurance..

      Dr talking health insurance and illness. Very apt.

      If somebody abuses your self-managed server, whether you are aware of it or not, you are (usually at least partially) responsible for it. And (usually) you cannot simply hide and run away if something screws up.

      Indeed and this is the key takeaway. Unfortunately bitter medicine at that. But sometimes that’s the best prescription.

      @uptime
      Read your Performant hosts as Permafrost host. Which seems to be the case here. Hosts and/or offers have frozen

    • uptimeuptime Member
      edited October 7

      @vyas11 I say permafunk is the real name of the lowend game :smiley:

      one more possibility comes to mind - I haven't yet taken a closer look at @HostSlick but have not heard any complaints, and am dimly aware that they have in the past put forward some possibly suitable offers (maybe or maybe not - depending on monthly bandwidth allotment and network performance I suppose). Worth checking to compare I think.

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    • daerraghdaerragh Member
      edited October 8

      uptime said: Also might check https://serverhunter.com for your specific requirements - and then come back here to check for reviews or second opinions with regard to network quality, reliability etc.

      Thank you uptime. I found a perfect VPS on serverhunter.

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      edited October 10

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      You were also spamming yesterday

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    • vyas11vyas11 Member
      edited October 10

      @angstrom said:

      You were also spamming yesterday

      The 24 hours of spamming fame spans two calendar days.

      @daerragh what was the final combination/ option you went with. Once things are up and running, can you post a BM or review? that would be helpful to the rest of the forum.

    • @vyas11 said:

      @angstrom said:

      You were also spamming yesterday

      The 24 hours of spamming fame spans two calendar days.

      He's gone now :smile:

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    • daerraghdaerragh Member
      edited October 10

      vyas11 said: @daerragh what was the final combination/ option you went with. Once things are up and running, can you post a BM or review? that would be helpful to the rest of the forum.

      I chose securesrv.io VPS: 1x E3v2 CPU, 1GB RAM, 500GB RAID HDD and unlimited 1Gbps (fair use). It runs well. I can download and upload torrents with 70-80MB/s (occasionally 100MB/s) with Deluge. HDD speed is 400MB/s (sequential).

      And it's only 3.5 USD, no setup fee. After the payment, the server was setup within minutes. I can recommend this provider.

    • edited October 10

      @daerragh said:

      vyas11 said: @daerragh what was the final combination/ option you went with. Once things are up and running, can you post a BM or review? that would be helpful to the rest of the forum.

      I chose securesrv.io VPS: 1x E3v2 CPU, 1GB RAM, 500GB RAID HDD and unlimited 1Gbps (fair use). It runs well. I can download and upload torrents with 70-80MB/s (occasionally 100MB/s) with Deluge. HDD speed is 400MB/s (sequential).

      And it's only 3.5 USD, no setup fee. After the payment, the server was setup within minutes. I can recommend this provider.

      Looks like they lease servers from ReliableSite and Hetzner. Not bad I guess. Their servers look relatively bare of users: https://status.securesrv.io/

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    • daerraghdaerragh Member
      edited October 10

      About securesrv.io. From their monitoring page you posted, it seems that they run their servers since 27 sept. 2019 (the monitoring started that day). So are they completely new on the market? I wonder how long they will last...

      EDIT: On the other hand, they've got reviews since 14 Nov 2018 here https://www.trustpilot.com/review/securesrv.io?page=5 . So maybe they aren't new after all...

    • uptimeuptime Member
      edited October 10

      I'm guessing they'll last as long as they need to (or they'll endure, who can say really)

      Your transfer and i/o speeds may come back down to earth (and then some) as the server accumulates more users trying to do the same

      As long as you're just paying month-to-month then no worries if you backup your data regularly, on another server elsewhere (which is always the sensible thing to do for data you care about, even if on a service already proven to be reliable - shit happens).

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