Email hosting

depricated · January 10

Are there decent options for free hosted email equivalent to what is included with most shared hosting?

The motivation is to make any hosting migrations easier, and to separate hosting and email servers to avoid leaking IP, as per CloudFlare's warning/recommendation when setting the DNS and CDN. I expect there will be very little, if any, usage but would like to set it up for a few (2-3) domains.

Zoho (possible for non-business?) and Migadu seem interesting. Comments/suggestions?

WSS · January 10

No.

cyagon · January 10

Yandex?

quick · January 10

@cyagon said: Yandex?

Any experience? I am running out of free first year of privateemail.com (namecheap)

WSS · January 10

@quick Just suck it up and toss @jarland $10 and forget about it.

MikeA · January 10

The free hosted e-mail providers that let you use your domain just suck, one way or another, eventually. Namecheap has some like super cheap email plan don't they? I thought they had a $10-20/year one but maybe I'm thinking about web hosting. Zoho free is "OK" but last time I used it, about 2 years ago, I had numerous problems with it not sending/receiving e-mails at random times.

WebProject · January 11

@cyagon said: Yandex?

I personally tried their services, very basic. Better off with G suite.

doghouch · January 11

@WebProject said:

@cyagon said: Yandex?

I personally tried their services, very basic. Better off with G suite.

I recently switched my last domain (dawgy.pw) to GSuite. Google Mail is miles ahead of Zoho and it makes me wonder why I stuck with them for so long. Having said that, $5/mo for email is expensive (but really worth it if you need proper email haha).

depricated · January 11

If it were for anything serious I would go with mxroute, but this is for small personal sites where I expect essentially no email activity, and I don't wish to pay anything.

My options right now are either: 1) try free email host(s) or 2) stick with email hosting at the webserver. Not sure which is worse.

WSS · January 11

It's this thread.

quick · January 11

@WSS said: @quick Just suck it up and toss @jarland $10 and forget about it.

Livin la vida broka

angstrom · January 12

@quick said:

@WSS said: @quick Just suck it up and toss @jarland $10 and forget about it.

Livin la vida broka

I think that mxroute may still offer their classic plan for a one-time fee of $5 if your email needs are modest.

quick · January 12

@angstrom said:

@quick said:

@WSS said: @quick Just suck it up and toss @jarland $10 and forget about it.

Livin la vida broka

I think that mxroute may still offer their classic plan for a one-time fee of $5 if your email needs are modest.

Yea, sniped the 5$ package

adxn · January 13

Check Soverin, they are not free but they have got their own reason too.

depricated · January 13

@angstrom said: I think that mxroute may still offer their classic plan for a one-time fee of $5 if your email needs are modest.

What's the difference with classic?

I noticed that plan too but it's just for 1 domain (I'd want 2-5), no DKIM (not sure if that's important), and no server side filters (no idea what that means).

jarland · January 13

@depricated said:

@angstrom said: I think that mxroute may still offer their classic plan for a one-time fee of $5 if your email needs are modest.

What's the difference with classic?

I noticed that plan too but it's just for 1 domain (I'd want 2-5), no DKIM (not sure if that's important), and no server side filters (no idea what that means).

If you just want basic email that works, high quality inbox delivery for next to nothing (be nice with it please, my limits are not hard set and I ask that you pay more if you send hundreds/thousands of emails per day), and no bells and whistles then you want the classic plans.

Ideally the classic plans are for people who already know what it is. It's basically the first product we released, re-released for people who said they didn't want all of the features or the higher prices that came with them. It's basically stripped down VestaCP with MailChannels for outbound email.

depricated · January 13

@jarland said: If you just want basic email that works, high quality inbox delivery for next to nothing (be nice with it please, my limits are not hard set and I ask that you pay more if you send hundreds/thousands of emails per day), and no bells and whistles then you want the classic plans.

Ideally the classic plans are for people who already know what it is. It's basically the first product we released, re-released for people who said they didn't want all of the features or the higher prices that came with them. It's basically stripped down VestaCP with MailChannels for outbound email.

What are the non-basic bells and whistles? On the page for the classic plans I did notice the comment which makes the decision for me: "DKIM and server side filters not supported. If you don't know what this is, you should not order it"

For the foreseeable future, I doubt I will even average 1 email per day across domains. For now it's mostly just an exercise in learning and setting things up, which is why I've been looking for free options.

P.S. @jarland your wonderful cyber monday deal in your sig is out of stock...

cyberpersons · January 13

@MikeA said: The free hosted e-mail providers that let you use your domain just suck, one way or another, eventually. Namecheap has some like super cheap email plan don't they? I thought they had a $10-20/year one but maybe I'm thinking about web hosting. Zoho free is "OK" but last time I used it, about 2 years ago, I had numerous problems with it not sending/receiving e-mails at random times.

Looks like Zoho have improved since then, I am also using them for some domains and it works fine.

depricated · January 13

@cyberpersons said: Looks like Zoho have improved since then, I am also using them for some domains and it works fine.

How strict is Zoho on making sure the free account is used for a "business" ?

WSS · January 13

@depricated said:

@cyberpersons said: Looks like Zoho have improved since then, I am also using them for some domains and it works fine.

How strict is Zoho on making sure the free account is used for a "business" ?

They probably don't want to host [email protected]

mehargags · January 13

Zoho was good but recently they dis-allowed IMAP on free accounts, which kind of limits it to only webmail. Yandex has not failed on me for more than 20 clients I have on it (skepticism apart)

dzungbb · January 13

Hope you can re-release Cyber Monday Offer again...

@jarland said:

@depricated said:

@angstrom said: I think that mxroute may still offer their classic plan for a one-time fee of $5 if your email needs are modest.

What's the difference with classic?

I noticed that plan too but it's just for 1 domain (I'd want 2-5), no DKIM (not sure if that's important), and no server side filters (no idea what that means).

If you just want basic email that works, high quality inbox delivery for next to nothing (be nice with it please, my limits are not hard set and I ask that you pay more if you send hundreds/thousands of emails per day), and no bells and whistles then you want the classic plans.

Ideally the classic plans are for people who already know what it is. It's basically the first product we released, re-released for people who said they didn't want all of the features or the higher prices that came with them. It's basically stripped down VestaCP with MailChannels for outbound email.

kassle · January 13

if location doesn't matter, the australia price is equals with cyber monday offers.

MikePT · January 13

@dzungbb said: Hope you can re-release Cyber Monday Offer again...

@jarland said:

@depricated said:

@angstrom said: I think that mxroute may still offer their classic plan for a one-time fee of $5 if your email needs are modest.

What's the difference with classic?

I noticed that plan too but it's just for 1 domain (I'd want 2-5), no DKIM (not sure if that's important), and no server side filters (no idea what that means).

If you just want basic email that works, high quality inbox delivery for next to nothing (be nice with it please, my limits are not hard set and I ask that you pay more if you send hundreds/thousands of emails per day), and no bells and whistles then you want the classic plans.

Ideally the classic plans are for people who already know what it is. It's basically the first product we released, re-released for people who said they didn't want all of the features or the higher prices that came with them. It's basically stripped down VestaCP with MailChannels for outbound email.

If you check our full cart, you can still find a few cheap offers there ;-)

Bochi · January 13

Maybe this could be of interest for you: https://pawnmail.com/
Model is "pay what you want" via donations - donate a multiple of the $0.06 per account / year they point out as cost and I would still consider this almost free.

willie · January 13

depricated said: Zoho (possible for non-business?) and Migadu seem interesting.

I was going to suggest Migadu but you already know about it. I use it a little (free account) and it's fine for what I think you want it for.

jarland · January 13

@Bochi said: Maybe this could be of interest for you: https://pawnmail.com/
Model is "pay what you want" via donations - donate a multiple of the $0.06 per account / year they point out as cost and I would still consider this almost free.

I so envy their simplicity.

WSS · January 13

@jarland said:

@Bochi said: Maybe this could be of interest for you: https://pawnmail.com/
Model is "pay what you want" via donations - donate a multiple of the $0.06 per account / year they point out as cost and I would still consider this almost free.

I so envy their simplicity.

They probably don't use CPanel.

jarland · January 14

@WSS said:

@jarland said:

@Bochi said: Maybe this could be of interest for you: https://pawnmail.com/
Model is "pay what you want" via donations - donate a multiple of the $0.06 per account / year they point out as cost and I would still consider this almost free.

I so envy their simplicity.

They probably don't use CPanel.

I'd guess single server basic setup with roundcube and no bells and whistles. I envy it because customers are why I can't have it :P

WSS · January 14

@jarland said: I'd guess single server basic setup with roundcube and no bells and whistles. I envy it because customers are why I can't have it :P

You can always setup your own shit which you don't share with others..

depricated · January 14

@Bochi said: Maybe this could be of interest for you: https://pawnmail.com/
Model is "pay what you want" via donations - donate a multiple of the $0.06 per account / year they point out as cost and I would still consider this almost free.

Thanks, I hadn't heard of pawnmail. But: "Sorry, we are full. Free registrations unavailable until further notice."

Radi · January 14

@mehargags said: Zoho was good but recently they dis-allowed IMAP on free accounts, which kind of limits it to only webmail. Yandex has not failed on me for more than 20 clients I have on it (skepticism apart)

Incorrect. Happily using Zoho Free on my personal domain, IMAP sync to mobile and will never move(unless they kick me). Could be true for new accounts though. Mine is few months old.

@WSS said:

@jarland said:

@Bochi said: Maybe this could be of interest for you: https://pawnmail.com/
Model is "pay what you want" via donations - donate a multiple of the $0.06 per account / year they point out as cost and I would still consider this almost free.

I so envy their simplicity.

They probably don't use CPanel.

Past user commenting. They don't. Its RoundCube and basic mail stack. Not sure on server count though. Didn't have issues with it either. Just moved because I wanted to try something new. Free registrations are closed though.

I can also recommend Mail.ru's free email hosting service. Signup and management is Russian(can help if anyone needs), webmail can be set to English. They give IMAP and POP3 access too.

szarka · January 14

Not free, but, if you're already using OpenSRS for domain registration, their hosted email is worth a look.

dzungbb · January 14

Any exclusive offers for LET?

@MikePT said:

@dzungbb said: Hope you can re-release Cyber Monday Offer again...

@jarland said:

@depricated said:

@angstrom said: I think that mxroute may still offer their classic plan for a one-time fee of $5 if your email needs are modest.

What's the difference with classic?

I noticed that plan too but it's just for 1 domain (I'd want 2-5), no DKIM (not sure if that's important), and no server side filters (no idea what that means).

If you just want basic email that works, high quality inbox delivery for next to nothing (be nice with it please, my limits are not hard set and I ask that you pay more if you send hundreds/thousands of emails per day), and no bells and whistles then you want the classic plans.

Ideally the classic plans are for people who already know what it is. It's basically the first product we released, re-released for people who said they didn't want all of the features or the higher prices that came with them. It's basically stripped down VestaCP with MailChannels for outbound email.

If you check our full cart, you can still find a few cheap offers there ;-)

cyberpersons · January 14

@depricated said:

@cyberpersons said: Looks like Zoho have improved since then, I am also using them for some domains and it works fine.

How strict is Zoho on making sure the free account is used for a "business" ?

I don't know about that, sorry!

MikePT · January 14

@dzungbb said: Any exclusive offers for LET?

@MikePT said:

@dzungbb said: Hope you can re-release Cyber Monday Offer again...

@jarland said:

@depricated said:

@angstrom said: I think that mxroute may still offer their classic plan for a one-time fee of $5 if your email needs are modest.

What's the difference with classic?

I noticed that plan too but it's just for 1 domain (I'd want 2-5), no DKIM (not sure if that's important), and no server side filters (no idea what that means).

If you just want basic email that works, high quality inbox delivery for next to nothing (be nice with it please, my limits are not hard set and I ask that you pay more if you send hundreds/thousands of emails per day), and no bells and whistles then you want the classic plans.

Ideally the classic plans are for people who already know what it is. It's basically the first product we released, re-released for people who said they didn't want all of the features or the higher prices that came with them. It's basically stripped down VestaCP with MailChannels for outbound email.

If you check our full cart, you can still find a few cheap offers there ;-)

Not for now I think. Still a few packages available for cheap.

Bochi · January 14

@jarland said:

I so envy their simplicity.

Yep, simplicity seems to have been number one priority. :)

@depricated said:

Thanks, I hadn't heard of pawnmail. But: "Sorry, we are full. Free registrations unavailable until further notice."

Sorry for that, didn't see that message...too bad though.

dzungbb · January 14

The cheapest classic one is 30€ anually. Hope LeT offers will be released soon

@MikePT said:

@dzungbb said: Any exclusive offers for LET?

@MikePT said:

@dzungbb said: Hope you can re-release Cyber Monday Offer again...

@jarland said:

@depricated said:

@angstrom said: I think that mxroute may still offer their classic plan for a one-time fee of $5 if your email needs are modest.

What's the difference with classic?

I noticed that plan too but it's just for 1 domain (I'd want 2-5), no DKIM (not sure if that's important), and no server side filters (no idea what that means).

If you just want basic email that works, high quality inbox delivery for next to nothing (be nice with it please, my limits are not hard set and I ask that you pay more if you send hundreds/thousands of emails per day), and no bells and whistles then you want the classic plans.

Ideally the classic plans are for people who already know what it is. It's basically the first product we released, re-released for people who said they didn't want all of the features or the higher prices that came with them. It's basically stripped down VestaCP with MailChannels for outbound email.

If you check our full cart, you can still find a few cheap offers there ;-)

Not for now I think. Still a few packages available for cheap.

MikePT · January 14

@jarland can perhaps do something.

jarland · January 14

Added a few to BF & CM stocks:

https://billing.mxroute.com/index.php?rp=/announcements/107/Black-Friday-2017.html
https://billing.mxroute.com/index.php?rp=/announcements/109/Cyber-Monday-2017.html

dzungbb · January 15

Would you mind checking ticket 979927? Thank you!

@jarland said: Added a few to BF & CM stocks:

https://billing.mxroute.com/index.php?rp=/announcements/107/Black-Friday-2017.html
https://billing.mxroute.com/index.php?rp=/announcements/109/Cyber-Monday-2017.html

codedivine · January 15

Some domain registrars will offer free email hosting. For example gandi.net offers 2 mailboxes with 3GB storage included as part of registration. Comes with IMAP support.

jon617 · January 15

I use mxguarddog.com to spam-filter mail, and act as the public-facing inbound MX mail receiver. It then forwards my mail to the smtp server running on my virtual server, which then routes mail to my inboxes (gmail, etc.). Spam are nicely summarized for my review. I think the price is $0.25/mo per email address (50 aliases and domain aliases included). It supports SPF-SRS too, so SPF checks don't break when mail relays.

Downside of mxguarddog, there's no API. Must manually add/remove/change email addresses through their website. My 50 email aliases took a couple hours to manually set up.

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