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Time4VPS - Free bandwidth upgrade and other changes

comebackcomeback Member
edited April 2017 in Reviews

I received this mail, I share with you:

Hello,

We would like to announce few changes to our services. These changes are made regarding gathered feedback from you and other Time4VPS customers.

Increased bandwidth allocation

As most of our clients demanded - we increased bandwidth allocation to all our service packages for free. Now, you can get up to 40 TB of bandwidth per single VPS! More details about increased bandwidth bellow.

Standard VPS

XS plan - 1 TB bandwidth

S plan - 2 TB bandwidth

M plan - 4 TB bandwidth

L plan - 8 TB bandwidth

XL plan - 16 TB bandwidth

KVM Linux and KVM Windows VPS

Linux 1 / Windows 1 - 10 TB bandwidth

Linux 2 / Windows 2 - 20 TB bandwidth

Linux 3 / Windows 3 - 40 TB bandwidth

Storage VPS

1 TB - 10 TB bandwidth

2 TB - 20 TB bandwidth

4 TB - 40 TB bandwidth

Updated IOPS and port speed limits

In order to adjust massive bandwidth increase we have balanced IOPS and port speed settings for better performance and stability. Changes are listed bellow.

Standard VPS

XS plan - 100 Mbps / 100 IOPS

S plan - 100 Mbps / 100 IOPS

M plan - 200 Mbps / 200 IOPS

L plan - 300 Mbps / 300 IOPS

XL plan - 400 Mbps / 400 IOPS

KVM Linux and KVM Windows VPS

Linux 1 / Windows 1 - 100 Mbps / 400 IOPS

Linux 2 / Windows 2 - 200 Mbps / 400 IOPS

Linux 3 / Windows 3 - 400 Mbps / 400 IOPS

Storage VPS

1 TB - 100 Mbps / 200 IOPS

2 TB - 200 Mbps / 200 IOPS

4 TB - 400 Mbps / 200 IOPS

IPv6 support for Standard and Storage VPS

Yes, finally IPv6 is here! If you don't have your own IPv6, just re-install OS in your Standard or Storage VPS. IPv6 will be enabled by default. At the moment we provide 1 usable IPv6 address.

Planned features for summer

We have massive list of features we would like to implement! Thank you for feedback, your opinion help us to develop our services better by each day. On to-do list there is:

Native IPv6 support for KVM VPS
Reverse DNS for IPv6
Snapshots for KVM VPS
Redesigned client area (including service search by name/ip)

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Comments

  • Tl;dr lowered port speed, increased bandwidth and increased IOPs.

  • Did this affect the old 512GB storage plan as well ?

  • So the 1 TB is useless now with a crappy 100mbit port only....

  • @maxwell said:
    So the 1 TB is useless now with a crappy 100mbit port only....

    Not overly sure why this is your opinion. They are backup servers. 100Mbit seems fair to me for backups

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  • From 400 down to 100 is a noticeable change.

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  • comeback said: If you don't have your own IPv6, just re-install OS in your Standard or Storage VPS

    I didn't expected see this :) Why they don't add tutorial how to enable IPv6 on 'old' vps?

    camarg said: Did this affect the old 512GB storage plan as well

    Yes!

    Test fio

    test: Laying out IO file(s) (1 file(s) / 4096MB)
    Jobs: 1 (f=1): [m(1)] [0.1% done] [272KB/84KB/0KB /s] [68/21/0 iops] [eta 02h:42m:20s]  
    

    We only support unsupported OS!

  • sibapersibaper Member
    edited April 2017

    GenjiSwitchPls said: Not overly sure why this is your opinion. They are backup servers. 100Mbit seems fair to me for backups

    Good luck when restore > 10 GB :D.

    If I remember correctly they advertised speed up to 250 Mbps, but before contract end they lower the speed.

    Not fair right?

    The good news is : their speed stable 100 Mbps :D it's better than 250 Mbps before

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  • @sibaper said:

    I didn't expected see this :) Why they don't add tutorial how to enable IPv6 on 'old' vps?

    almost certain it requires a reinstall, the module just isn't there

    maybe if you have them load it manually

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  • texteditor said: almost certain it requires a reinstall, the module just isn't there

    make sense thanks;

    We only support unsupported OS!

  • time4vpstime4vps Member, Provider
    edited April 2017

    Hello,

    news going fast around here :) .

    Few points to clarify:

    1. Bandwidth allocation increased due to the constant demand from customers;
    2. IOPS limit tuned up according to average usage per instance;
    3. IOPS not changed for Storage VPS. It was 200 IOPS before and it is 200 IOPS now (legacy 0.5 TB has 100 IOPS);
    4. IPv6 can be enabled without OS re-install, just drop us a ticket.

    Goals of this change:

    • Increase bandwidth limit (up to 40 TB for some plans);
    • Increased stability to disk performance and network;
    • Avoid IOPS / Mbps imbalance and problems when trying to push 400 Mbps with 200 IOPS.

    Before submitting rage post on these changes, take a look at your VPS average port speed usage and review IOPS use.

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  • This also has the side effect of nudging away the 'undesirable' clientele and offer better average performance for 99% clients.

    @time4vps I'm fine with 200mbit port on my 2TB storage, but perhaps you could offer higher than 100mbit port speed to 1TB storage users, especially if they already paid biennially.

    It would leave a sour taste in the mouth of someone who ordered for longer periods.

    (I'm not counting the 512gb unsustainables. Those are gems, worth it just for the storage alone.)

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  • @time4vps said:
    Hello,

    news going fast around here :) .

    Few points to clarify:

    1. Bandwidth allocation increased due to the constant demand from customers;
    2. IOPS limit tuned up according to average usage per instance;
    3. IOPS not changed for Storage VPS. It was 200 IOPS before and it is 200 IOPS now (legacy 0.5 TB has 100 IOPS);
    4. IPv6 can be enabled without OS re-install, just drop us a ticket.

    Goals of this change:

    • Increase bandwidth limit (up to 40 TB for some plans);
    • Increased stability to disk performance and network;
    • Avoid IOPS / Mbps imbalance and problems when trying to push 400 Mbps with 200 IOPS.

    Before submitting rage post on these changes, take a look at your VPS average port speed usage and review IOPS use.

    Does my 500gb VPS now have 50mbps?

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  • time4vpstime4vps Member, Provider

    tr1cky said: Does my 500gb VPS now have 50mbps?

    You can review that information anytime in your VPS panel. Why do you think that you have 50 Mbps?

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  • Hello ,
    They are lower port speed , when you ticket this problem for them , They are rejected this problem and said all thing ok , I create 2 times for this subject ticket , But they are rejected

  • time4vpstime4vps Member, Provider

    RunVPN said: I create 2 times for this subject ticket , But they are rejected

    Interesting. Please provide me with those 2 ticket ID's. I will personally review them. We do not simply "reject", all issues are addressed if it's technically possible/doable.

    Time4VPS - time for your personal server

  • dofldofl Member
    edited April 2017

    I don't understand how you can change to existing customers. I have a 1 TB bi-annual plan user and now in te middle of my plan you change the functionality I have pre-paid for.

  • Existing customers that prepaid for two years should be able to cancel with refund for remaining months. I consider these changes to be bait and switch which is illegal.

    Sounds like they oversold maybe and are fixing their poor business decisions.

  • vimalware said:

    This also has the side effect of nudging away the 'undesirable' clientele and offer better average performance for 99% clients.

    What, that's backwards. They're storage/backup servers, users mostly shouldn't care about iops or about being able to copy the whole vps multiple (>2) times in a month, it's only seeders etc. who care about that. But storage users DO care about being able to transfer at reasonable speed. 100 mbps is 24 hours to move 1 terabyte.

    This change is definitely a downgrade. Product is no longer attractive compared to what else is out there. I don't feel likely to buy any more. Glad this happened when it did as I was planning to get another 1TB soon.

    If it was really in response to "customer demand" how about making it available to customers who want it, while leaving customers who don't want it able to keep the old settings.

    Can someone tell me the port speed of the 512gb plan at this point?

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  • vishvish Member

    this sounds like a downgrade to me

  • vimalwarevimalware Member
    edited April 2017

    @willie said:
    users mostly shouldn't care about iops or about being able to copy the whole vps multiple (>2) times in a month, it's only seeders etc. who care about that.

    Agreed

    But storage users DO care about being able to transfer at reasonable speed. 100 mbps is 24 hours to move 1 terabyte.

    I've addressed this later in the para . I too feel it should be over 100mbit.
    It's a bit harsh of a cap, on 'burst speed'.

    200mbit is sufficient for pushing backups from my online.net servers on average.
    22MB/sec is what I typically get.

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  • datakodatako Member
    edited April 2017

    @willie said:

    Can someone tell me the port speed of the 512gb plan at this point?

    Still 100mbit, just tested mine to see if it's still usable! and it is. 1gbps would've been awesome though :(

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  • DevilDevil Member

    willie said: 100 mbps is 24 hours to move 1 terabyte.

    I think even originally it was 100Mbps, wasn't it?

    Looking for a cheap (2-3 year pricing), reliable, reputed, low b/w, good CPU/RAM, low storage KVM/SSD VPS for strictly personal/individual VPN/etc use.

  • XenosXenos Member

    @time4vps I will be canceling my storage vps due to the port speed downgrade. 100 Mbps is not an acceptable speed to retrieve my backups.

  • DevilDevil Member

    In their KB, they still say:

    We provide 400 Mbps dedicated port speed for each VPS.

    Is it something different? Not the port speed being discussed on this thread?

    Looking for a cheap (2-3 year pricing), reliable, reputed, low b/w, good CPU/RAM, low storage KVM/SSD VPS for strictly personal/individual VPN/etc use.

  • Devil said: I think even originally it was 100Mbps, wasn't it?

    No it was more like 200-300 or sometimes a bit better, depending.

    #lexit spread the word.

  • deadbeefdeadbeef Member
    edited April 2017

    The original storage plans were 100Mbps at some point, then 400, now 100 again.

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  • I'd be really happy if they provided 200mbps. 100 is a little too slow these days though

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  • williewillie Member
    edited April 2017

    Instead of free bandwidth upgrade, why don't they advertise this as a free port speed downgrade? Oh right.

    #lexit spread the word.

  • PieHasBeenEatenPieHasBeenEaten Member, Moderator

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  • Sometimes i can not understand this community. In the hosting industry are a lot companies who wont give a shit about the demands of their costumers. I think time4vps is a stable company, which tries to improve the service for all customers at a really low price point. Men, some folks would say its unsustainable. They constantly try to get better, i know here are some people who thought they will never have ipv6, me neither to be honest but, bam, there it is!
    Be happy for a great product, which, yes isnt appropriate for all usecases, but for that price quality is more than enough.

  • @faulwurf said:
    Sometimes i can not understand this community

    Did you join today?

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  • @doughnet said:
    Existing customers that prepaid for two years should be able to cancel with refund for remaining months. I consider these changes to be bait and switch which is illegal.

    Sounds like they oversold maybe and are fixing their poor business decisions.

    I tend to agree here. Changing the terms of an agreement mid-stream doesn't seem right. Just ~30 days ago I pre-paid for a year's service of the 1TB Storage Server, and now Port speed is now cut by 75% from 400Mbps to 100Mbps. While I only went above the 100 Mbps mark for just a few days over the last month of service, seems like a no notice change is not nice.

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  • @deadbeef said:

    Yeah i forgot, lets cry about everything :)

  • faulwurf said: tries to improve the service for all customers

    In what language is decreasing port speed from 400mbit to 100mbit called an improvement?

    #lexit spread the word.

  • NeoonNeoon Member

    @willie said:

    faulwurf said: tries to improve the service for all customers

    In what language is decreasing port speed from 400mbit to 100mbit called an improvement?

    Depends on which side, for Time4VPS it is, since they have less load on there Network.

    For the Costumer? No and it seems like they do not really care.

  • WSSWSS Member

    @willie said:

    faulwurf said: tries to improve the service for all customers

    In what language is decreasing port speed from 400mbit to 100mbit called an improvement?

    In the language where there are a few users who are beating the shit out of the interface and costing the provider not only an expense, but slowing other users?

    If that isn't the case, however, they're finding a way to restrict user loads. I almost laughed that someone bitched that it'd take 24 hours to load a TB of data. Well, do one big backup, then do incremental?

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  • faulwurffaulwurf Member
    edited April 2017

    Lower port speed in exchange for more bandwidth, iops and ipv6. I can live with that but I get your point here. There should be a option for long term contracts to cancel with a prorated refund.

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  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Moderator

    time4vps said: Increase bandwidth limit (up to 40 TB for some plans);

    image

    Why don't you just make it 40 petabytes? Because regardless if it's 40TB or 40PB, no one's going to push that in a month on 100mbit.

    image

    time4vps seems to be declining from shady to scammy...

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @raindog308 said:

    time4vps said: Increase bandwidth limit (up to 40 TB for some plans);

    image

    Why don't you just make it 40 petabytes? Because regardless if it's 40TB or 40PB, no one's going to push that in a month on 100mbit.

    image

    time4vps seems to be declining from shady to scammy...

    To be fair it's 30TB in each direction ;)

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  • @Francisco said:

    @raindog308 said:

    time4vps said: Increase bandwidth limit (up to 40 TB for some plans);

    image

    Why don't you just make it 40 petabytes? Because regardless if it's 40TB or 40PB, no one's going to push that in a month on 100mbit.

    image

    time4vps seems to be declining from shady to scammy...

    To be fair it's 30TB in each direction ;)

    Francisco

    Also, the larger plans have higher limits.

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  • @raindog308 said:

    time4vps seems to be declining from shady to scammy...

    Whilst it doesn't detract from the fact they changed this without warning customers in long term contracts, the 40TB (+ other higher) bandwidth limits are on the plans on upwards of 100Mbps port speed (40TB is on 400Mbps port on 4TB storage plans & the top KVM plan), so it is possible for that amount of bandwidth to be obtained.

    None the less, this has kind of made me glad I chose not to go into a long contract with Time4VPS - while this change may not be the end of the world for everyone, that fact they can change something like this mid-contract with no warning would lead me to question what else they'd be able to change in the future.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Moderator

    Junkless said: Also, the larger plans have higher limits.

    Ah, you're right...though you have to get into the ordering system to see that.

    OK, not a scam. Just a marketing fail.

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  • WSS said: In the language where there are a few users who are beating the shit out of the interface and costing the provider not only an expense, but slowing other users?

    Why is this a problem under the old bw caps? I think the 1TB plan had 4TB(?) cap? So if you could really send 400mbit through it, you'd exhaust your allowance in about 24 hours. And what is "the" interface? A DC with that much gear hopefully has multiple 10gbit or faster pipes.

    #lexit spread the word.

  • matthewkilpatrick said: None the less, this has kind of made me glad I chose not to go into a long contract with Time4VPS - while this change may not be the end of the world for everyone, that fact they can change something like this mid-contract with no warning would lead me to question what else they'd be able to change in the future.

    doughnet said: Existing customers that prepaid for two years should be able to cancel with refund for remaining months. I consider these changes to be bait and switch which is illegal.

    Technically they have invalidated your contract if you have a previously agreed to long-term contract and you should have the right to request a refund and if they refuse you, you should be able to win a charge back because they changed an existing contract without seeking the customers permission to do so. This is by no means legal.

    As per the changes in general, I am sure it will end up in a much less bumpy experience as it seems they are pulling things more in line with reality. They likely were having issues with noisy neighbors and customers complaining they couldn't get their full speed because you had only a few user saturating the port constantly. With the changes they made it seems it will be a bit more fair going forward.

    @time4vps I hope you consulted a Lawyer before making these changes, ohh that's right, if you had they would have told you what your doing isn't legal...

    my 2 cents.

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  • WSSWSS Member

    @willie said:

    WSS said: In the language where there are a few users who are beating the shit out of the interface and costing the provider not only an expense, but slowing other users?

    Why is this a problem under the old bw caps? I think the 1TB plan had 4TB(?) cap? So if you could really send 400mbit through it, you'd exhaust your allowance in about 24 hours. And what is "the" interface? A DC with that much gear hopefully has multiple 10gbit or faster pipes.

    You're talking to a guy who can literally live on a flash drive. My assertion (and edumicated guess) is that there were a few people using the backup/storage plan and hammering it constantly- to the point where it was causing the provider to lose enough money that it made no sense to allow this to continue- thus, setting the bandwidth per virtual interface.

    I have no idea what percentile they're on, but my guess is that it peaked high enough that they got a few nasty stings in their bills.

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  • WSS said: hammering it constantly

    What does that mean? Using too much bandwidth? If yes, they made that problem worse by increasing the caps. Using too much port speed? That makes no sense, there's an overall transfer quota per user. Using too much iops? This is possible but that's not a really proper use of a storage server.

    I think it's really true that some users did want more bandwidth for their torrents or whatever, and now they've been accomodated at the expense of those who wanted to use their storage as storage.

    #lexit spread the word.

  • @raindog308 said:

    Junkless said: Also, the larger plans have higher limits.

    Ah, you're right...though you have to get into the ordering system to see that.

    Look again at the second half of the OP. The higher limits are mentioned right there.

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