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New online.net limited edition server, EUR 19.99/pm, no setup fee

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  • Mahfuz_SS_EHL said: Have you ever used 20 TB on a Single Server ?? I wonder I haven't !

    cPanel server, VPS node? :)

  • coolicecoolice Member
    edited March 2015

    btw 2 server benchmark shows 2000+ Read IOPS and 1000+ write on FIO vs 374 / 166 for hetzner machine with SW raid ... This deal keep to get better for SAS drives :)

    does somebody check raid controller specs... It has write memory but i think it's not enabled their is with no flasbacked addon or bbu... but result is great I was expectig 800 / 400 result in raid 1

    Mine servers still is not installed cause I do not have time ...

    P.S Someone mention that do no like SAS cause they are more fragile... I never own HP server and never with SAS so on their site it says that they do recommend SATA, and NearLine SAS 7200 for workloads under 40% and SAS 15k got 3,5 relability of SATA and unconstrained workload

  • Does anyone know what model SAS drives they use? Press any key on the virtual console when it says "press any key for rom options", then keep hitting F8 for raid controller settings.

  • earlearl Member

    Finally got my drive replaced.. Guess these are 3.5" 15K SAS..

  • @mustafaramadhan said:
    Rent 1 IP failover in 17-03-2015 but no bill until now.

    afaik, Billing will start each new month, and you must terminate the services before date of 20th or you must pay bill for that on the next month :)

  • coolice said: does somebody check raid controller specs... It has write memory but i think it's not enabled their is with no flasbacked addon or bbu... but result is great I was expectig 800 / 400 result in raid 1

    It's enabled and comes with a bbu, me thinks...

    Smart Array P410 in Slot 1
       Bus Interface: PCI
       Slot: 1
       Serial Number: PACCRID124207G3
       Cache Serial Number: PACCQID130508HS
       RAID 6 (ADG) Status: Disabled
       Controller Status: OK
       Hardware Revision: C
       Firmware Version: 6.40
       Rebuild Priority: Medium
       Expand Priority: Medium
       Surface Scan Delay: 3 secs
       Surface Scan Mode: Idle
       Queue Depth: Automatic
       Monitor and Performance Delay: 60  min
       Elevator Sort: Enabled
       Degraded Performance Optimization: Disabled
       Inconsistency Repair Policy: Disabled
       Wait for Cache Room: Disabled
       Surface Analysis Inconsistency Notification: Disabled
       Post Prompt Timeout: 15 secs
       Cache Board Present: True
       Cache Status: OK
       Cache Ratio: 25% Read / 75% Write
       Drive Write Cache: Enabled
       Total Cache Size: 256 MB
       Total Cache Memory Available: 144 MB
       No-Battery Write Cache: Disabled
       Cache Backup Power Source: Batteries
       Battery/Capacitor Count: 1
       Battery/Capacitor Status: OK
       SATA NCQ Supported: True
       Number of Ports: 2 Internal only
       Encryption Supported: False
       Driver Name: hpsa
       Driver Version: 3.4.0
       Driver Supports HP SSD Smart Path: False
    
       Array: A
          Interface Type: SAS
          Unused Space: 0  MB
          Status: OK
          Array Type: Data
    
          Logical Drive: 1
             Size: 419.2 GB
             Fault Tolerance: 1
             Heads: 255
             Sectors Per Track: 63
             Cylinders: 54717
             Strip Size: 64 KB
             Full Stripe Size: 64 KB
             Status: OK
             Caching:  Enabled
             Unique Identifier: 600508B1001CF1BBED6C469861BD5742
             Disk Name: /dev/sda          Mount Points: / 9.5 GB Partition Number 2, /tmp 1.9 GB Partition Number 3
             OS Status: LOCKED
             Logical Drive Label: A54E583CPACCRID124207G32BB7
             Mirror Group 0:
                physicaldrive 1I:1:1 (port 1I:box 1:bay 1, SAS, 450 GB, OK)
             Mirror Group 1:
                physicaldrive 1I:1:2 (port 1I:box 1:bay 2, SAS, 450 GB, OK)
             Drive Type: Data
             LD Acceleration Method: Controller Cache
    
          physicaldrive 1I:1:1
             Port: 1I
             Box: 1
             Bay: 1
             Status: OK
             Drive Type: Data Drive
             Interface Type: SAS
             Size: 450 GB
             Native Block Size: 512
             Rotational Speed: 15000
             Firmware Revision: HPDB
             Serial Number:         CWXMBLMN
             Model: HP      EF0450FATFE     
             Current Temperature (C): 32
             Maximum Temperature (C): 36
             PHY Count: 2
             PHY Transfer Rate: 6.0Gbps, Unknown
    
          physicaldrive 1I:1:2
             Port: 1I
             Box: 1
             Bay: 2
             Status: OK
             Drive Type: Data Drive
             Interface Type: SAS
             Size: 450 GB
             Native Block Size: 512
             Rotational Speed: 15000
             Firmware Revision: HPDB
             Serial Number:         CWXDBA3N
             Model: HP      EF0450FATFE     
             Current Temperature (C): 30
             Maximum Temperature (C): 35
             PHY Count: 2
             PHY Transfer Rate: 6.0Gbps, Unknown
    
       SEP (Vendor ID PMCSIERA, Model  SRC 8x6G) 250 
          Device Number: 250
          Firmware Version: RevC
          WWID: 50014380229B714F
          Vendor ID: PMCSIERA
          Model:  SRC 8x6G       
    Thanked by 2coolice geekalot
  • earl said: Finally got my drive replaced.. Guess these are 3.5" 15K SAS..

    Yep.

    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Vendor:               HP
    Product:              EF0450FATFE
    Revision:             HPDB
    User Capacity:        450,098,159,616 bytes [450 GB]
    Logical block size:   512 bytes
    Rotation Rate:        15030 rpm
    Form Factor:          3.5 inches
    Logical Unit id:      0x5000cca04193f66c
    Serial number:        CWXMBLMN
    Device type:          disk
    Transport protocol:   SAS
    Temperature Warning:  Enabled
    
    Thanked by 1earl
  • Yes they are with cache enabled and bbu
    Cache Board Present: True
    Total Cache Size: 256 MB

    Cache Backup Power Source: Batteries
    Battery/Capacitor Count: 1
    Battery/Capacitor Status: OK

    Thanked by 1geekalot
  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    stream4cast said: Anyone can sell Dedibox 1115?

    Is this the first one?

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @Nekki nah.

  • Mahfuz_SS_EHLMahfuz_SS_EHL Host Rep, Veteran

    @earl said:
    Finally got my drive replaced.. Guess these are 3.5" 15K SAS..

    How to check if My Drive has any problem or Not !

  • benchmarked with Raid 1:
    http://serverbear.com/benchmark/2015/03/17/2nH610TPD8PqFRrG
    I'm pretty pleased, I was giving the same money to an old KS2

  • I purchased 4 of these servers and so far, so good. With the price point on them, I was able to drop some of the VPS I have and consolidated those systems on these servers.

    Before anyone asks here or in PM. No, I will not sell or outsource these servers and will ignore such requests...

  • earlearl Member

    @Mahfuz_SS_EHL said:
    How to check if My Drive has any problem or Not !

    I actually received a warning from my control panel regarding the disk problems.. but if you wanted to check your drive you can try..

    apt-get install smartmontools

    Disk A

    smartctl -a -d cciss,0 /dev/sda

    Disk B

    smartctl -a -d cciss,1 /dev/sda

    Thanked by 2Silvenga Rolter
  • earlearl Member

    So I've enabled the write cache, is this suppose to improve the DD test results? cause it does not seem to make a difference in my case.

  • earlearl Member
    edited March 2015

    Dedibox Limited

    HP SAS model- 2 drives RAID 1

    dd if=/dev/zero of=iotest bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync && rm -fr iotest
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 5.40226 s, 199 MB/s
    

    HP SAS 2 drives RAID 0

    dd if=/dev/zero of=iotest bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync && rm -fr iotest
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 3.67648 s, 292 MB/s

    WD SATA model- 2 Drives RAID 0

     dd if=/dev/zero of=iotest bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync && rm -fr iotest
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 5.06352 s, 212 MB/s
    

    Kimsufi KS-3

    HGST SATA model- single drive

    dd if=/dev/zero of=iotest bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync && rm -fr iotest
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 8.09224 s, 133 MB/s
    

    I think Kimsufi's comes with pretty good drives.

    Thanked by 1comXyz
  • Mahfuz_SS_EHLMahfuz_SS_EHL Host Rep, Veteran

    @earl said:

    It shows Health Status : Ok

  • FalzoFalzo Member

    look for things like reallocated sector count and runtime badblock to decide yourself if health status is good (should be 0) ;-)

  • @BharatB said:
    I've seen people selling it for higher , when customers are naive / new to industry :D

    Oneprovider must have picked up all these servers. expect it from them at a higher prices.

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited March 2015

    mashokk369 said: Oneprovider must have picked up all these servers. expect it from them at a higher prices.

    Oneprovider has a closer relationship to Online.net than having to hunt for and pick up random deals from them via LET and Twitter.

    Thanked by 1Dylan
  • Mahfuz_SS_EHLMahfuz_SS_EHL Host Rep, Veteran

    @earl @Falzo

    [root@online-ehostlab-com ~]# smartctl -a -d cciss,0 /dev/sda
    smartctl 5.43 2012-06-30 r3573 [x86_64-linux-2.6.32-504.12.2.el6.x86_64] (local build)
    Copyright (C) 2002-12 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
    
    /dev/sda [cciss_disk_00] [SCSI]: Device open changed type from 'sat,auto' to 'cciss'
    Vendor:               HP
    Product:              EF0450FATFE
    Revision:             HPDB
    User Capacity:        450,098,159,616 bytes [450 GB]
    Logical block size:   512 bytes
    Logical Unit id:      0x5000cca04193f940
    Serial number:                CWXMBTGN
    Device type:          disk
    Transport protocol:   SAS
    Local Time is:        Fri Mar 20 15:35:59 2015 CET
    Device supports SMART and is Enabled
    Temperature Warning Enabled
    SMART Health Status: OK
    
    Current Drive Temperature:     30 C
    Drive Trip Temperature:        65 C
    Manufactured in week 20 of year 2013
    Specified cycle count over device lifetime:  50000
    Accumulated start-stop cycles:  34
    Elements in grown defect list: 0
    Vendor (Seagate) cache information
      Blocks sent to initiator = 572018021892096
    
    Error counter log:
               Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
                   ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
               fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
    read:          0   458678         0    458678          0     867505.657           0
    write:         0   202721         0    202721          0       1798.146           0
    
    Non-medium error count:       62
    No self-tests have been logged
    Long (extended) Self Test duration: 3744 seconds [62.4 minutes]
    [root@online-ehostlab-com ~]# smartctl -a -d cciss,1 /dev/sda
    smartctl 5.43 2012-06-30 r3573 [x86_64-linux-2.6.32-504.12.2.el6.x86_64] (local build)
    Copyright (C) 2002-12 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
    
    /dev/sda [cciss_disk_01] [SCSI]: Device open changed type from 'sat,auto' to 'cciss'
    Vendor:               HP
    Product:              EF0450FATFE
    Revision:             HPDB
    User Capacity:        450,098,159,616 bytes [450 GB]
    Logical block size:   512 bytes
    Logical Unit id:      0x5000cca041949ce0
    Serial number:                CWXMRP8N
    Device type:          disk
    Transport protocol:   SAS
    Local Time is:        Fri Mar 20 15:36:32 2015 CET
    Device supports SMART and is Enabled
    Temperature Warning Enabled
    SMART Health Status: OK
    
    Current Drive Temperature:     28 C
    Drive Trip Temperature:        65 C
    Manufactured in week 20 of year 2013
    Specified cycle count over device lifetime:  50000
    Accumulated start-stop cycles:  34
    Elements in grown defect list: 0
    Vendor (Seagate) cache information
      Blocks sent to initiator = 572160208797696
    
    Error counter log:
               Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
                   ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
               fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
    read:          0   396728         0    396728          0     867554.795           0
    write:         0   227985         0    227985          0       1798.399           0
    
    Non-medium error count:       62
    No self-tests have been logged
    Long (extended) Self Test duration: 3744 seconds [62.4 minutes]
    
  • earlearl Member

    @Mahfuz_SS_EHL

    Looks fine.. when my disk failed smart status did not say ok it was,

    "SMART Health Status: HARDWARE IMPENDING FAILURE GENERAL HARD DRIVE FAILURE"

  • @earl said:
    So I've enabled the write cache, is this suppose to improve the DD test results? cause it does not seem to make a difference in my case

    DD is basic unrelated to real life usage test) Write cache is not for DD, it is to compensate IOPS... it's 256MB memory only...

    3MB/s average wirtes with - peaks of 10 MB (for few seconds) can generate 200+ iops froma a single innodb 2GB database which is over hetzner software test io of 166 write iops or HDDs on this server will show 40-60 loads and on peaks website using that database slowness will be visible with naked eye... and average load on HDDs will be over recommended workload

    You can go with less safe InnoDB config for you project or do unsafe writebacks but some webmasters valued their projects and will not do that

  • zevuszevus Member
    edited March 2015

    I get 150ms to ovh and 153ms to Hetzner with Centurylink (routing through Houston).

    That's the only 'end-user' ping I can do... Hetzner would be better in that case, as it's only +3ms even with the extra kilometers between france and germany ..

    anyway,

    From GMO Internet in Japan, 258ms OVH and 275ms Hetzner,

    From Softlayer in Mexico, 137ms OVH, 142ms Hetzner,

    From Hostodo in LA, 137ms OVH, 166ms Hetzner,

    From Linode in Dallas, 116ms to OVH, 123ms Hetzner,

    From vstoike.ru, 40ms to OVH, 40ms to Hetzner,

    From time4vps in Lithuania, 45ms to OVH, 34ms to Hetzner

    ed: my guess about the earlier "Better network" comment is probably related to speeds. i've always been able to hit 100MB/s on a hetzner machine, not even close on OVH, w/ gbit port

  • earlearl Member

    @coolice

    couple years back a few of us here on LET bought the HP blade server from dataschack which I think came with a e200 raid card.. I recall playing with the write cache did increase the DD test..

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    BharatB said: lol they are back

    Wat? That's a different server.

  • earlearl Member
    edited March 2015

    not the limited edition.. just their regular offer with the 40 euro setup fees..

  • Well yes, and no:

    • It now only has 2x1TB HD, instead of 2x2TB
    • It now costs €29.99 instead of €19.99
    • And now has €40 setup fee
  • BharatBBharatB Member, Patron Provider
    edited March 2015

    @geekalot said:

    • And now has €40 setup fee

    Yea maybe they bought their own stock xD , looked the same to me actually same E3-1220 16 gigs ram 2 bay config only diff is the disk space and setup fee and price.

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