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Need low cost VPS in Iceland that allows IRC servers
Hi there, we are developing an IRC bot and need a VPS in Iceland that allows running an IRC server for our devs to use. The project has free speech implications/aspects therefore privacy is a requirement. Any recommendations on low cost hosts? Orange is just too expensive.
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Dunno if they allow IRC, but here are some providers. x.is 1984hosting.com greenqloud.com
The provider that comes to mind is EDIS, they have OVZ and KVM in IS, on the edge/outside of LEB pricing. A few things to note though, they're based in Austria (not sure if this makes any difference to you), their ToS doesn't explicitly prohibit IRC server at that location so best to check with them first.
You need a VPS provider who is based in Iceland, not just has equipment there. So cheap is not really an option.
x.is and 1984.is should both have no issue with a non-public IRC server.
@Lee -- Besides Orange, who else is there? Thanks
@William just linked 2. Orange you know about. There is also:
https://www.flokinet.is/servers
http://www.advania.com/datacentres/solutions/advania-cloud-services/
Not sure about either in relation to IRC.
Okay, can someone enlighten me why Iceland for free speech and privacy exactly...?
@aglodek free speech guaranteed by law
Okay, but I also seem to remember something along those lines in the US constitution. So why is Iceland different?
Why Iceland ? There are other locations which are suitable for you.
What's written on a piece of paper, its interpretation and practice are 3 completely unrelated matters.
Agreed. I was responding to @MuZo's: "free speech guaranteed by law" (in Iceland). My point is: ditto in the US. Are you implying that Iceland's implementation is less ambiguous? I find this a little hard to believe, given Iceland's economic woes a few years back and the international community's - EU's, UK's, RUSSIA's (!!?) - financial support thereof. Such support usually breeds, well, willingness to cooperate with outside actors on a wide variety of subjects. Hence my question: what exactly prompts such abject trust in Iceland's government?
Yes. Iceland has been seriously trying to become a safe heaven for free speech. A Google search will give you all the details, here are a few links for simple reference:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-06/17/iceland-passes-worlds-strongest-press-freedom-laws
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Modern_Media_Institute
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/19/nsa-surveillance-iceland-free-speech
Don't forget that most if not all of Iceland's connections to the outside world go through the UK of all countries. Don't think I need to explain what a bastion of freedoms on the Internet that particular regime is. And if you're going to encrypt all connections to the IRC server, does it even matter then where it's actually located, as no outside parties will have any "insight" of what kind of free speech you practice there.
As far as the traffic is concerned I would agree with you however when you are hosting files I feel as though Iceland would be far better than USA when it comes to the actual content and its laws.
Ironically in Iceland pornography is illegal, they have in general some weird laws on the books...
Iceland has not banned pornography yet, there were talks about it in 2013 however that has mostly died down now.
The police sending abuse for Pornsites hosted in Iceland sees that very different then...
Just curious for my own sake but do you have any sources so I can read up more on it ?
I'm guessing his source is EDIS, they have servers in Iceland
Porn is illegal in Iceland. What happened in 2013 was that some members of the Parliament tried to push through a law that would allow the Goverment to force ISP's to install pornfilters on their internet gateways.
So much for free speech in Iceland. Not a fan of porn, mind you (foreigner living in Asia, so no need really), but selective free speech is no free speech in my book. Once people start picking and choosing on some ideological grounds, they never know where to draw the line. So, I guess Iceland's Customs must have their hands full searching and confiscating stuff, huh?
Riiiiiiiiight
Do I sense disbelief/sarcasm here?
Does anyone have any source that can show me that porn is illegal in Iceland as my google fu is weak this morning. SHOW ME THE LIGHT!
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.althingi.is/altext/126/s/0625.html&edit-text=
Freedom of speech does not relate to distributing or storing porn last I looked.
Perhaps freedom of expression if you were in it and it belonged to you but a cheap back street porno? Not sure where that fits into either.
Does freedom of speech include books in your opinion? And if it does, why?
My face automatically went into a smile while reading this
Hum, why not so? As long as the porn is licensed.
If porn is illegal, much of the greek/roman/etc statues and renaissance-onwards paintings should also be banned, idolatry forbidden and we all get the jackhammers and clubs to clean up the world as god ordered, also documentaries about art must be censored in part, a lot of poetry and, who decides what is porn and what is not?
Any law against free expression and art is against free speech, free speech does not refer only to political spectrums, but also to art, religion, history, wherever people have an opinion, they must be free to express it, even if wrong.
Hate speech should not be allowed only for cults, governments and political parties, anyone should be able to voice their opinion, even if acting on it would be against the law. There is no such thing as "incite", everyone must know the law and obey it, if you cannot, you must be removed from the society until you manage to get your actions according to the law and the majority decisions regarding that common law.
However, having opinions against the law must never be illegal, after all, law comes after public discussion and even vote, so, forbidding discussions on a law or another means you are breaking citizen's rights to become source for the law that interests them and the society as a whole.