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Don't forget to remove the chainload to grub2. Also some users try this with debian 6 and it can also create big problems because of grub. Often you need to run "apt-get remove grub-legacy grub-common" before upgrading. I would recommend to contact your host before running any of these upgrade commands with Debian.
These kind of things and the bad Xen support with Debian in general makes me prefer CentOS. Never managed to convince a true Debian supporter though
I do understand that people here like Debian because it doesn't use much RAM. You can tune CentOS 5 to use much less as well though. Also glad to see there now is a minimal install CD for CentOS 6 again.
The inability to upgrade a CentOS 5 box to CentOS 6, along with the memory-sucking habits of yum, are my two major gripes about CentOS. I have a dozen or so minor grips as well
Sadly no . I forgot we were talking about OpenVZ here.
I have no experience with it, but I hear good things about Scientific Linux, I'm going to have to try it out soon and see if it's noticeably better than CentOS.
Somebody still using Slackware? That was my initial linux distro I was using before switching to Debian.
Being an RHCE and using RHEL every day for the last 6 years and 2 years of application packaging using RPM + some bespoke server automation kit.
It does leave me a bit of a Red Fedora fanboi, and cursing Debian's non-sensical file structure.
That said I'm sure Debian fans are the same about RHEL/CentOS and it's all much of a muchness.
Use what you want and most importantly use what you're most comfortable with.
Setting up a red hat based box and securing it from remote attack is a piece of pie for me. Give me debian and i'm man -k'ing or slocating all over the place trying to find the configuration files.
One thing I do love about YUM based package management is that it's trivial to create a yum repository, literally any kind of file sharing service (http/ftp/nfs...) and an autogenerated catalog and you're away when i've tried the same on debian a long long time ago it resulted in a bit of facedesking.
Some folks might be interested to know about CentOS in the enterprise. If you have a RedHat 'supported' machine, the vendor will typically make support tools available. For instance, HP makes the ProLiant support pack. These are packaged for Redhat and go in easily on CentOS. Actually I think CentOS is a supported OS now as well. But yeah, you want to know if a fan or power supply dies, and you want it reported to a large systems monitoring package like Insight Manager, so folks get paged and what not, you use an enterprise class OS. Of course there are ways to do it yourself, but when you by a 30,000 dollar server (or dozens of them), you put a supported OS on it, as much as Admins might like debian at home or whatever, at work, well you get what I'
m saying.
@kylix: nice sig you got there hehe. Writing this from my MacBook Pro though
(PS: I'm male and straight, so no nail painting for me)
@Daniel hear, hear ... !
imho and as some others have pointed out too pkg mgmt gets sketchy
yum can be relatively painless but in the enterprise arena it is warped
ie lots of noobs start building from source breaking plesk, xinet oh my
it's not a good excuse but for lots of small to mid range sites I'd rather argue with auditors over a back port fix ...
i don't think CentOS always got a fair shake though because a good admin would slim down on her first ...
@LongShot another good point ... to save my self from my own comments I've been one of the rooks i just condemned ...
I think it's for reasons like that I grew to learn auditor social skills and to shy away from source if I could help it, just my two ...
I would still never wish to talk down on a solid, long lasting CentOS install, whether managed or not it still has my respect ...
While Debian is nice for lower-memory boxes, I prefer CentOS because I Yum.
Generally CentOS for me.
Centos for me too, got used to redhat based distro's from Redhat 7
Try not to use anything else unless I have to.
Debian is my cup of tea, but most of my work is on redhat and derivatives...
I prefer CentOS not a big fan of debian
CentOS for me, but Debian does just fine too. I am starting to like Debian more though.
sorry to sit on the fence,,, i like both Debian and CentOS
I've enjoyed using arch before. It can be made very small. When I was using it though their package system made it very easy to break your install. Wouldn't recommend it for OpenVZ unless that's changed.
yum works fine on 128, Just disable the fastest mirror plugin and its perfect
Necromancers...
@yomero Whoops, didn't notice that.
I prefer CentOS but often use Debian.
CentOS is very useful as a free RHEL clone. In $DAYJOB we frequently use it in labs for that very purpose.
I often use Debian on LEBs for these reasons:
Debian feels like a distro built by a smart college kid who didn't have a lot of experience when he set it up, so he kind of made it up as he went along.
Examples:
That said, once you've used it a while and get used to all of its quirks and have it configured properly, it runs as well as any other distro.
At $DAYJOB I get to use HP-UX, Solaris, AIX, and a host of other proprietary operating systems - I still will take any Linux distro over any of those.
Yum works fine on my 64mb Xen VPS.
@raindog308 - did CentOS ever fix the
ls -hlFb --color=auto --group-directories-first
issue?@Aldryic is this what you'd expect to see?
Oh, nice. I used to mess with Fran constantly about that... the last time I used CentOS was about a year or so ago, and
--group-directories-first
would always make it go "wat" :POn CentOS 5,
--group-directories-first
doesn't work.I personally prefer CentOS over Debian.. But most likely because I am used to it.
I prefer TXZ over DEB and/or RPM. :P
but in the real world i use Debian for my primary website + secondary DNS, and CentOS for cPanel + VPS management (Solus/Virtualizor)