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KVM or XEN
Hello Everyone,
I am in need of a virtualization on my future dedicated server.
I am thinking to go with delimeterVPS X5150.
That is really perfect to my needs & additional IP blocks are also available.
I want to ask that which virtualization will be best for Windows VMs ? As I will only host Windows VMs there.
Also let me know virtualization costs.
Thank you
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Xen, nuff said. Windows licensing costs will kill you though.
There is nothing to worry as my friends will use those.
All of those have microsoft dreamspark So that windows license doesn't cost a single penny
Can you also let me know that why Xen is better & how much will it cost ?
Honestly, if it's for personal uses, your virtualization choice depends really on your administration style. If you like CLI-based stuff, then Xen is the easier option. However, if GUI is your ploy, install Libvirt+KVM on the dedi and virt-manager on local machine (if you run linux... windows you're SOL).
Xen is a virtualzation technology; afaik it's free & open source. Xen is imho more stable than KVM & is more isloated like in a dedicated server environment.
I would really like to go with GUI if it is possible.
But if CLI will be free or cheap than KVM so i would go with XEN for sure
This is a non-profit project that is why need to cut costs as much as i can.
Do you even know what GUI & CLI mean/are?
It means that i should go with XEN as it is free & more stable.
If you don't mind so can you also point me to something which will guide me to set up that ? Sorry for noob question but it will be my first virtualization
Both KVM and Xen are free and open source. You can install feathur (also free) so you can manage your KVM VPSes easily.
I deserve those questions after asking those noob questions.
Yes i know that so far as i know GUI means Graphical User Interface while CLI means Command Line Interface,
Please correct if i am wrong.
If I may also ask have you ever used Linux before or know any bash commands?
Reason for asking is the installation can be a tad tricky, I suggest asking @Rallias for help and/or directions.
Yes, i have used linux.
Not in personal PC so far as i am windows guy.
But i am using that on my OpenVZ VPS & have basic knowledge of CentOS commands.
If you are new to virtualizations and just want to set it all up quickly then I'd recommend installing Proxmox. It comes with a nice web interface where you easily could create KVM containers with.
You also could try VMWARE.
+1 for Proxmox +SPICE
It is excellent.
The KVM option is 'free' as well.
If you choose between Xen and KVM, choose KVM.
For windows, don't even touch Xen HVM. It's not worth the performance loss. KVM works so much better with Windows than Xen, and you don't have to deal with installing drivers on the (slow as all hell) box after installation. With KVM, it's so easy to get a slipstreamed MS ISO with virtio drivers, which you'll need for good performance.
cough veridian = 1 cough
I have searched a little bit about proxmox & found that it is open source but if you need updates so you will have to subscribe to their subscriptions.
Is it good to go without their subscription ?
Sure, if your provider knows how to add it...
If you are going to host windows VMs, have you consider Hyper-V, which is Microsoft's free type 1 hypervisor?
@StephenIzzy as Chihcherng says HyperV is probably the easiest solution is you are virtualising only Windows machines
Well? He is 'provider' in this case.
Depends on what you are going to use it for, if it is for a more personal usage then you shouldn't worry. If you plan on using it for commercial purposes then you might want to consider getting a subscription, they could release critical security updates that you possibly need.
"A Proxmox VE Subscription is an additional service program designed to help IT Professionals and businesses to keep their Proxmox VE deployments up-to-date and to provide access to professional support services. You get access to the Proxmox VE Enterprise repository with stable software updates and security enhancements, as well as to technical support and other services."
source: https://www.proxmox.com/proxmox-ve/pricing
KVM+libvirt+virt-manager and if you really want, MobaXterm with X11 forwarding for spinning up VM's through a GUI.
Even if it is for personal use still pick KVM as the performance gains are huge.
did someone drop a pin?
Lol. I look forward to your upcoming KVM Windows plans.
Do not hold your breath!
Hi,
Install Citrix Xenserver.
On windows installs you will get pvhvm mode, which will be HVM on PV drivers.
We use those on SugarVPS servers.
There are 2 styles of administration. With XenCenter you will have nice gui.
Installation is turnkey, no adjustments needed.
http://xenserver.org/overview-xenserver-open-source-virtualization/download.html
Thank you all for suggestions, these are much appreciated.
What are your opinions about KVM with SolusVM ? I will only have to get slave license as master is already installed on an OpenVZ node.
I am a kvm fan for the most part i find that you can learn more from kvm and more about linux since xen has the idea of dom0 it hides alot of stuff from you and then some linux tricks works while others do not.
Is there anyone who can help me setting up Proxmox network ?
Testing things on a temporary server, need someone to help with those
How can i add a /30 block in it ?