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Providers, would you pay 1€ / core / month min. 100€ for a modern KVM panel?
Would you pay 1€ / core / month (physical CPU cores in compute nodes), minimum 100€ / month for a modern KVM control panel and cloud billing solution?
I understand that this is out of the budget for some of the LET providers, so the default answer would be "no".
I am curious to know how many providers would say "yes".
And more importantly what is a main feature list that is achievable in the first releases, like:
- is KVM support enough?
- or you absolutely need support for containers, and which one (VZ7/LXD/LXC/etc.)
- just local storage, what kind
- or centralized storage as well, which one
- which networking features are a must right from the start
- any other must-have features
- what issues with your current panel you want fixed
The nice-to-have feature list is obviously endless and a reliable software solution must be actively development and add features over the years, but what is the initial must-have feature list?
(The discussion is outside the OpenStack realm, I'm asking about a turn key solution that doesn't require you to install and manage OpenStack).
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So basically we need pay 100€/m for get price 1€?
So how about if i'm only have one server with 4 cores? It's only 4€? Or i'm missing something?
Vote KVM
The minimum monthly payment is 100€ and includes 100 cores (regardless if you have less).
For us it's a good deal at that price as you are saying it's a KVM panel + billing
I kinda remember you saying you're not gonna go along with the price nonsense of Solus tho...
Check our pricing page. It's our current pricing which we've been having for a year or two. And the prices before that were higher, not lower. We lowered from 2.5€ / core to 1€ / core.
Sounds like good pricing. Show us your panel.
Ah. My bad. But my honest opinion is companies to figure out a new pricing option. Per core makes no sense at all.
Unless I got it all wrong and you are offering me that core for €1. If not then I have no clue who came up with a pricing structure that I should pay for each of my cores every month. Hey, I get it, you need to get paid for your work and all and nothing against that but yeah...just my opinion tho so no need to lynch me for it.
IIRC, RamNode is using this.
Here's an online demo: https://fleio.com/demo
Right now Fleio only supports OpenStack clouds. You need to install and manage OpenStack, before being able to use Fleio.
I'm asking here about interest in Fleio if it would run as stand alone (without requiring providers to install and manage OpenStack).
The price is good. We are interested for Felio+KVM+VZ7
We have no issue with the pricing
These basic features we need
Extras (If possible)
I would pay for this, and I agree with @ViridWeb, plus:
Basically if you could make it similar to the new Solus.io for that 1/mo, that would almost surely guarantee you a load of business.
we are happy to pay more than this but what we need is all solutions in one panel like @ViridWeb said
pm'd. tldr; I'd be interested.
I would drop the minimum to 10 cores, but overall I like this idea and I have no need for containers.
They have to make it worth their time given the support overhead it's going to cause.
A 10 core deal means they'll have every single host that's just starting up ordering it since it'll come in cheaper than SVM1.
Francisco
Yea good point, didn't think about it from that point of view.
True. We're including support with the license cost.
A production cloud infrastructure requires support on complex issues. And support (mainly) scales by adding man-power.
And as you've probably notice from running your hosting business, support effort is higher on lower cost customers.
Basically we don't want any possible customer because we just can't service every possible customer.
In the beginning, you want lower tier pricing (providing no/minimal support).
They can be your beta tester, recommend features to you.
As your product gains traction and matures, you go back to higher pricing. You can grandfather your initial supporter.
Of course, you want to limit support to lower tier customer. But prepare to have good documentation.
Usually about now @Francisco gives his standard speech about why VPS providers can't have nice things. It involves past panels that were created that people wouldn't pay pennies for and why people are still buying Solus.
Get off my lawn old man.
Francisco
I suspect @Francisco takes us seriously, which I appreciate.
(though with moderate enthusiasm, born from all those come and go new-panel-wannabes from over the years)
Pretty sure I am paying at least 2x more for SolusVM than the current Fleio pricing.
So your costs are...ryzen?
I'll see myself out.
Francisco
Fleio looks cool, but 100 minimum is a too much, maybe drop to 30 with limited/community support and 24 cores max? I'd setup a single blade for testing for that much, never really used openstack.
This is talking about a KVM version, not OpenStack.
Yes, but with KVM+VZ7 support and possibly an easy migration route from Solus if possible.
I don't think he would want to do it for the cost.
Hello,
Did you've started to develop a KVM panel?
Any ETA for a beta version?
Let me know it,
1€ / core / month minimum €10-€20 - KVM, Local and Centralized Storage, vlan tagging, ipv4 public and private, ipv6, hourly billing. i'm in