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uptime · October 2019

@dahartigan said:
some other providers that even if you don't upload a single byte, they still kick your ass for torrenting,

Do you suppose that might be due to disk i/o usage (or whatever strains shared system resources) - or risk management due to previous bad experience, or ...?

Feel free to PM me the list of providers likely to cut your nuts off. (Asking for a friend ...) I'm guessing it may be a much shorter list than the don't ask / don't tell curation.

dahartigan · October 2019

@uptime said:

@dahartigan said:
some other providers that even if you don't upload a single byte, they still kick your ass for torrenting,

Do you suppose that might be due to disk i/o usage (or whatever strains shared system resources) - or risk management due to previous bad experience, or ...?

Feel free to PM me the list of providers likely to cut your nuts off. (Asking for a friend ...) I'm guessing it may be a much shorter list than the don't ask / don't tell curation.

Well, torrenting in general is a fairly demanding procedure for the network and the disk IO. I always limit mine severely - 1 torrent at a time downloading, and a max of 10 peers. That's because I don't like being noisy.

I also suspect that with most "torrent friendly" providers is that the notices come in but they don't act on them, whereas the "not as friendly" will forward them to you.

More than happy to continue our PM on this topic if you want @uptime

andrew1995 · October 2019

@SpeedTest What benchmark script/tool are you using, can you please share?

vyas11 · October 2019

Speedtest uses speedtest script :-).

Url in the first two or three lines of the BM result.

SpeedTest · October 2019

vyas11 said: Speedtest uses speedtest script :-).

It uses a bunch of scrips combined

@andrew1995
https://bench.monster/speedtest.html

plumberg · October 2019

@key900 is my.letbox.com down? Unable to access the site/ control panel.

SirFoxy · October 2019

@plumberg said:
@key900 is my.letbox.com down? Unable to access the site/ control panel.

Yes

key900 · October 2019

@plumberg said:
@key900 is my.letbox.com down? Unable to access the site/ control panel.

Firewall issue with our website and we working into it.

BTW: It doesn’t effecting with any services.

TimboJones · October 2019

@dahartigan said:
Put it this way - the provider isn't going to say "Hey everyone, go nuts torrenting!"

If you'd like some anecdotal evidence to help with your question, I personally have been successful in downloading torrents using this service. I haven't seeded a byte, and that could be the key to my success. YMMV.

EDIT: I have found with some other providers that even if you don't upload a single byte, they still kick your ass for torrenting, which is completely fair enough. I would compare it to legalized vs decriminalized. Our romanian friend is "legalized" and everyone else is "decriminalized". Some providers are like the judge/jury/executioner though in this analogy.

How do you not have a single byte seeded? That's not how torrents work. Please post screenshot showing downloads with absolutely no uploaded bytes.

dahartigan · October 2019

@TimboJones said:

@dahartigan said:
Put it this way - the provider isn't going to say "Hey everyone, go nuts torrenting!"

If you'd like some anecdotal evidence to help with your question, I personally have been successful in downloading torrents using this service. I haven't seeded a byte, and that could be the key to my success. YMMV.

EDIT: I have found with some other providers that even if you don't upload a single byte, they still kick your ass for torrenting, which is completely fair enough. I would compare it to legalized vs decriminalized. Our romanian friend is "legalized" and everyone else is "decriminalized". Some providers are like the judge/jury/executioner though in this analogy.

How do you not have a single byte seeded? That's not how torrents work. Please post screenshot showing downloads with absolutely no uploaded bytes.

You're kidding, right? You use transmission and you set upload to 0, disallow seeding. You only receive parts of Linux ISOs and never send any parts of Linux ISOs.

Obviously if everyone did that, torrents would cease to exist.

Provide screenshots of proof that this doesn't work.

sanvit · October 2019

@dahartigan said:

@TimboJones said:

@dahartigan said:
Put it this way - the provider isn't going to say "Hey everyone, go nuts torrenting!"

If you'd like some anecdotal evidence to help with your question, I personally have been successful in downloading torrents using this service. I haven't seeded a byte, and that could be the key to my success. YMMV.

EDIT: I have found with some other providers that even if you don't upload a single byte, they still kick your ass for torrenting, which is completely fair enough. I would compare it to legalized vs decriminalized. Our romanian friend is "legalized" and everyone else is "decriminalized". Some providers are like the judge/jury/executioner though in this analogy.

How do you not have a single byte seeded? That's not how torrents work. Please post screenshot showing downloads with absolutely no uploaded bytes.

You're kidding, right? You use transmission and you set upload to 0, disallow seeding. You only receive parts of Linux ISOs and never send any parts of Linux ISOs.

Obviously if everyone did that, torrents would cease to exist.

Provide screenshots of proof that this doesn't work.

iirc you need to send in order to recieve. My personal expirence is that if you limit your upload speed to 0, you won't be able to download either (I may have configured wrong though. Not an expert on this). afaik torrent clients think of seeding as uploading after you download the full file. So anything uploaded while downloading is not counted as seeding (thus disallowing seeding still uploads during when files are being downloaded).

Anyway, seeding should also be fine as long as you don't hammer system resources, and doesn't get any complaints (use a proper VPN or proxy)

dahartigan · October 2019

@sanvit said:

@dahartigan said:

@TimboJones said:

@dahartigan said:
Put it this way - the provider isn't going to say "Hey everyone, go nuts torrenting!"

If you'd like some anecdotal evidence to help with your question, I personally have been successful in downloading torrents using this service. I haven't seeded a byte, and that could be the key to my success. YMMV.

EDIT: I have found with some other providers that even if you don't upload a single byte, they still kick your ass for torrenting, which is completely fair enough. I would compare it to legalized vs decriminalized. Our romanian friend is "legalized" and everyone else is "decriminalized". Some providers are like the judge/jury/executioner though in this analogy.

How do you not have a single byte seeded? That's not how torrents work. Please post screenshot showing downloads with absolutely no uploaded bytes.

You're kidding, right? You use transmission and you set upload to 0, disallow seeding. You only receive parts of Linux ISOs and never send any parts of Linux ISOs.

Obviously if everyone did that, torrents would cease to exist.

Provide screenshots of proof that this doesn't work.

iirc you need to send in order to recieve. My personal expirence is that if you limit your upload speed to 0, you won't be able to download either (I may have configured wrong though. Not an expert on this). afaik torrent clients think of seeding as uploading after you download the full file. So anything uploaded while downloading is not counted as seeding (thus disallowing seeding still uploads during when files are being downloaded).

Anyway, seeding should also be fine as long as you don't hammer system resources, and doesn't get any complaints (use a proper VPN or proxy)

The only torrent client I use is transmission-daemon. In settings.json you can set these flags, which will never upload anything:

"speed-limit-up": 0,
"speed-limit-up-enabled": true,
"ratio-limit": 0,
"ratio-limit-enabled": true,

This will make sure that a) nothing can be uploaded, and b) it won't attempt to seed the file while it's downloading or after it's completed.

When I say I haven't uploaded a single byte of data, what I'm referring to specifically is the torrent data itself. Not the TCP ACK packets etc. In the scope of avoiding DMCA, uploading "illegal material" is the problem - and if you're not uploading any, there's no problem.

EDIT: For anyone who uses private trackers and seedboxes, what I'm talking about will NOT help you. This is for free loading off public trackers and avoiding "sharing illegal content" which in turn avoids DMCA notices.

EDIT2: @sanvit @TimboJones PM if you want to discuss more, I'm not really sure it's appropriate to talk about this in a provider's offer thread

key900 · October 2019

@deadlyllama said:
Any more stock coming? Can this be combined with an existing letbox?

@sanvit said:

@dahartigan said:

@TimboJones said:

@dahartigan said:
Put it this way - the provider isn't going to say "Hey everyone, go nuts torrenting!"

If you'd like some anecdotal evidence to help with your question, I personally have been successful in downloading torrents using this service. I haven't seeded a byte, and that could be the key to my success. YMMV.

EDIT: I have found with some other providers that even if you don't upload a single byte, they still kick your ass for torrenting, which is completely fair enough. I would compare it to legalized vs decriminalized. Our romanian friend is "legalized" and everyone else is "decriminalized". Some providers are like the judge/jury/executioner though in this analogy.

How do you not have a single byte seeded? That's not how torrents work. Please post screenshot showing downloads with absolutely no uploaded bytes.

You're kidding, right? You use transmission and you set upload to 0, disallow seeding. You only receive parts of Linux ISOs and never send any parts of Linux ISOs.

Obviously if everyone did that, torrents would cease to exist.

Provide screenshots of proof that this doesn't work.

iirc you need to send in order to recieve. My personal expirence is that if you limit your upload speed to 0, you won't be able to download either (I may have configured wrong though. Not an expert on this). afaik torrent clients think of seeding as uploading after you download the full file. So anything uploaded while downloading is not counted as seeding (thus disallowing seeding still uploads during when files are being downloaded).

Anyway, seeding should also be fine as long as you don't hammer system resources, and doesn't get any complaints (use a proper VPN or proxy)

O believe it possible!

willie · October 2019

When I torrent download a linux iso I don't make any attempt to throttle uploading, but my upload speed is usually 0 anyway, just because so many people are seeding from beefier servers than mine.

vimalware · October 2019

@willie said:
When I torrent download a linux iso I don't make any attempt to throttle uploading, but my upload speed is usually 0 anyway, just because so many people are seeding from beefier servers than mine.

Yep. This is usually fine as long as you aren't trying to pluck an ISO within the first 45m of release

plumberg · October 2019

I just did a fresh install of windows... How do I get the network drivers installed? Any help? Thnx

key900 · October 2019

@plumberg said:
I just did a fresh install of windows... How do I get the network drivers installed? Any help? Thnx

Used the Pre-installed Windows or iso?

plumberg · October 2019

@key900 said:

@plumberg said:
I just did a fresh install of windows... How do I get the network drivers installed? Any help? Thnx

Used the Pre-installed Windows or iso?

no, i used a fresh install ISO.

key900 · October 2019

@plumberg said:

@key900 said:

@plumberg said:
I just did a fresh install of windows... How do I get the network drivers installed? Any help? Thnx

Used the Pre-installed Windows or iso?

no, i used a fresh install ISO.

Go to and mount Virtio iso drive by following

https://my.letbox.com/index.php?rp=/knowledgebase/47/How-to-mount-iso.html

then in Windows >> Device Manager >> select the network adapter and install it.

edfox · October 2019

Any chance somebody will cancel their and stock will be back? I know I'm late, just trying ^^

plumberg · October 2019

@key900 said:

@plumberg said:

@key900 said:

@plumberg said:
I just did a fresh install of windows... How do I get the network drivers installed? Any help? Thnx

Used the Pre-installed Windows or iso?

no, i used a fresh install ISO.

Go to and mount Virtio iso drive by following

https://my.letbox.com/index.php?rp=/knowledgebase/47/How-to-mount-iso.html

then in Windows >> Device Manager >> select the network adapter and install it.

Thank you. It worked. But I just realized that the windows install happened on the block storage instead of NVME. Any idea how I can setup on NVME disk ? @key900

Falzo · October 2019

plumberg said: Any idea how I can setup on NVME disk ?

didn't you select the drive during windows install? ;-)

also read this thread from the beginning, watch out for @ehab posts

plumberg · October 2019

@Falzo said:

plumberg said: Any idea how I can setup on NVME disk ?

didn't you select the drive during windows install? ;-)

also read this thread from the beginning, watch out for @ehab posts

Good point. It didn't list the nvme. I just moved ahead. Will check the thread from beginning. Thnx

Falzo · October 2019

plumberg said: It didn't list the nvme.

if that's the case, then you probably just need to load the virtio drivers first to make the nvme appear in the list at all. But I have no clue if you can remount the ISOs live with their control panel to get the drivers disk in...

plumberg · October 2019

@Falzo said:

plumberg said: It didn't list the nvme.

if that's the case, then you probably just need to load the virtio drivers first to make the nvme appear in the list at all. But I have no clue if you can remount the ISOs live with their control panel to get the drivers disk in...

Interesting point. Will check.

key900 · October 2019

@Falzo said:

plumberg said: It didn't list the nvme.

if that's the case, then you probably just need to load the virtio drivers first to make the nvme appear in the list at all. But I have no clue if you can remount the ISOs live with their control panel to get the drivers disk in...

Same way mount it first time however we can mount 2 or more iso if you want just submit support ticket.

samm · November 2019

edfox said: Any chance somebody will cancel their and stock will be back? I know I'm late, just trying

I will cancel mine at 20th this month so may be you can get one then or if key allow to transfer I can do it right away.

sjkme · November 2019

@samm said:

edfox said: Any chance somebody will cancel their and stock will be back? I know I'm late, just trying

I will cancel mine at 20th this month so may be you can get one then or if key allow to transfer I can do it right away.

may i ask why you're cancelling? something up with the service?

samm · November 2019

sjkme said: something up with the service?

No issue, service is great and box is solid rock. Just don't need it right now as I got another box so may be in future I'll use it. Very happy with my box. Can't comment on the support as didn't get chance to interact with them with any issue.

sjkme · November 2019

@samm said:

sjkme said: something up with the service?

No issue, service is great and box is solid rock. Just don't need it right now as I got another box so may be in future I'll use it. Very happy with my box. Can't comment on the support as didn't get chance to interact with them with any issue.

ok, if you decide to let go of your letbox let me know i wouldn't mind taking it.

samm · November 2019

tagging @key900 and lets see if he allows to transfer or you have to wait till 20th.

key900 · November 2019

@samm said:
tagging @key900 and lets see if he allows to transfer or you have to wait till 20th.

Yes we allowed to transferring.

samm · November 2019

Great, what is TOS for transfer ? any transfer fee ?

key900 · November 2019

@samm said:
Great, what is TOS for transfer ? any transfer fee ?

No fee but if you want to pay fee you are welcome

samm · November 2019

haha..very generous...@sjkme pm me if you need it.

klikli · November 2019

Anyone else seeing really slow IPv6 outbound? IPv4 is performant, inbound IPv6 is not bad. No packet loss either. Really weird. Experienced this on multiple providers (OVH, Linode, he.net).

$ wget -O /dev/null <IPv4>
--2019-11-02 23:55:49-- 
Connecting to <IPv4>:2015... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 401166653 (383M) [video/mp4]
Saving to: ‘/dev/null’

/dev/null                                          100%[================================================================================================================>] 382.58M   100MB/s    in 3.8s    

2019-11-02 23:55:52 (101 MB/s) - ‘/dev/null’ saved [401166653/401166653]

$ wget -O /dev/null <IPv6>
--2019-11-02 23:55:58--  
Connecting to <IPv6>:2015... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 401166653 (383M) [video/mp4]
Saving to: ‘/dev/null’

/dev/null

edfox · November 2019

@key900 said:

@samm said:
Great, what is TOS for transfer ? any transfer fee ?

No fee but if you want to pay fee you are welcome

Will I be allowed to add blocks at 2.5$/TB even if the server was transferred?

Btw, I'M LOOKING FOR ONE!

key900 · November 2019

@edfox said:

@key900 said:

@samm said:
Great, what is TOS for transfer ? any transfer fee ?

No fee but if you want to pay fee you are welcome

Will I be allowed to add blocks at 2.5$/TB even if the server was transferred?

Btw, I'M LOOKING FOR ONE!

If it available then yes. We mostly out of stock.

Something similar

Built it

https://my.letbox.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=109

key900 · November 2019

@klikli said:
Anyone else seeing really slow IPv6 outbound? IPv4 is performant, inbound IPv6 is not bad. No packet loss either. Really weird. Experienced this on multiple providers (OVH, Linode, he.net).

$ wget -O /dev/null <IPv4>
--2019-11-02 23:55:49-- 
Connecting to <IPv4>:2015... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 401166653 (383M) [video/mp4]
Saving to: ‘/dev/null’

/dev/null                                          100%[================================================================================================================>] 382.58M   100MB/s    in 3.8s    

2019-11-02 23:55:52 (101 MB/s) - ‘/dev/null’ saved [401166653/401166653]

$ wget -O /dev/null <IPv6>
--2019-11-02 23:55:58--  
Connecting to <IPv6>:2015... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 401166653 (383M) [video/mp4]
Saving to: ‘/dev/null’

/dev/null

We will doing some testing on new equipment since the Datacenter mentioned that there is no outbound limits on ipv6

key900 · November 2019

Now you can custom built for your needs

https://my.letbox.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=109

Very low prices on resources!

ITLabs · November 2019

@key900 said:
Now you can custom built for your needs

https://my.letbox.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=109

Very slow prices on resources!

Prices may be slow but resources are fast my man!

key900 · November 2019

@ITLabs said:

@key900 said:
Now you can custom built for your needs

https://my.letbox.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=109

Very slow prices on resources!

Prices may be slow but resources are fast my man!

Hah got me it fixed now! Ya my phone 📱

sjkme · November 2019

Great offer @key900

chocolateshirt · November 2019

@key900 said:
Now you can custom built for your needs

https://my.letbox.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=109

Very low prices on resources!

Where is B1 location?

key900 · November 2019

@chocolateshirt said:

@key900 said:
Now you can custom built for your needs

https://my.letbox.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=109

Very low prices on resources!

Where is B1 location?

Los Angeles.

edfox · November 2019

@key900 said:

https://my.letbox.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=109

Is this to buy additional storage blocks, or i can buy it even if i don't have any block and it'll be a normal server?

key900 · November 2019

@edfox said:

@key900 said:

https://my.letbox.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=109

Is this to buy additional storage blocks, or i can buy it even if i don't have any block and it'll be a normal server?

Yes it's normal VPs it doesn't mean must/should attach Block Storage with it. the package comes with

B1

1 GB Dedicated RAM 8GB for $3 per month
1 x CPU core
20 NVMe Main Disk
FREE 125Gb Block Storage ( Can add more for small fee)
5TB/Month @ 1 Gbps burstable( capped the connection speed to 10mbit when bandwidth exceeded.)
1x IPv4
Private Internal IP
KVM
$3/month Upgrades are available for small fee

https://my.letbox.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=109

Local Storage
SB1

1 GB Dedicated RAM 8GB for $3 per month
1 x CPU core
256GB raid10 Disk
5TB/Month @ 1 Gbps burstable( capped the connection speed to 10mbit when bandwidth exceeded.)
1x IPv4
Private Internal IP
KVM
$3/month Upgrades are available for small fee

https://my.letbox.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=111

The packages supposed to be for BlackFriday !

Thanks

dahartigan · November 2019

Dammit @key900 why must you tempt me with more potassium? :-)

key900 · November 2019

@dahartigan said:
Dammit @key900 why must you tempt me with more potassium? :-)

To take your money

dahartigan · November 2019

@key900 said:

@dahartigan said:
Dammit @key900 why must you tempt me with more potassium? :-)

To take you money

Haha perfect answer

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