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I forgot to cancel my PayPal subscription at Stockservers.
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expectation vs reality
butterfish ...
tits on a fish = pointless/useless, much like an ashtray on a motorbike.
He laughed at his birthday present and said "I need that like a fish needs tits!"
@AnthonySmith the irony being that the tits are customers in a number of cases.
Time to update the ToS with side case #1000001
I have said several times in this thread now - it's even referenced in the subthread that you're replying to! - that there is a difference between a wholly customer-initiated recurring payment, and one that is integrated into your payment flow as a provider. If it's integrated into your payment flow, you are liable. If it's customer-initiated, you are not.
It's really not all that difficult.
Wrong thread...
Standing Order is initiated into my payment flow. And I'm not liable.
I'm only liable for Direct Debit which is the one that I request the charges from the Customer account and not where the Customer has some agreement with their bank to send me money every X days.
As you can see there are clear comparisons - Standing Order - PayPal Subscription - setup at request of the payer to pay every X days, agreement between the payer and PayPal.
Direct Debit - PAyPal Billing Agreements - Customer gives permission to charge account for any amount at any time, within contract naturally.
Now, with standing orders or PayPal subscriptions - the Customer would be at fault if the charges go out when the Customer didn't want them to go out but didn't cancel the instruction with their bank (PayPal).
With Direct Debits - we would be at fault if we charged the Customer after legally we shouldn't have, there are certain rules around it, which you can research yourself, that might result in us bearing consequences and ultimately being excluded from the scheme if this is abused.
This really is simple. You're trying to write too, much into it.
I keep seeing this arguement. Yet I have never went to PayPal and told them to send anyone money automagically I've had subscriptions show up on my account.
It's not been as bad as it was but there are still providers that try to slide them past you.
Provided the relevant option is activated in your configuration, WHMCS can automatically cancel the PayPal subscription when a client places the cancellation request:
https://docs.whmcs.com/PayPal#Automatic_Subscription_Management
https://docs.whmcs.com/Invoice_Tab#Automatic_Subscription_Management
hello @chickendippers welcome to this epic thread that refuses to die and thank you for the helpful contribution, which echoes some discussion from the previous page, which you may be interested to read as well
and it wasn't too much after that when this thread became all about the usefulness of tits on a fish.
Can you imagine that?
fishtitties!
I’m coming to the conclusion that every single animated show for adults is stupid beyond words.