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Looking for a 600Tb+ server provider

jojokjojok Member
edited July 2017 in Requests

Hi, Currently I need a provider which can provide a 600tb+ storage server, and at 3gbps+ bandwidth ,any suggestion?

I use it storage videos

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  • What are you looking to pay for this?

  • jojokjojok Member

    @MSPNick said:
    What are you looking to pay for this?

    I plan it 3000$

  • Using https://10gbps.io and be happy with them.

  • cociucociu Member

    i can do this in Romania, what is your budget ?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran
    edited July 2017
  • @jojok said:

    @MSPNick said:
    What are you looking to pay for this?

    I plan it 3000$

    Are you able to sign contracts?

  • exception0x876exception0x876 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    Do you mind to share why do you want that huge amount of storage in one server? I just don't understand why anyone would prefer it instead of using distributed storage software.

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  • cociucociu Member

    Francisco said: You can't even get your current customers their storage and you think you can get someone 600TB?

    Francisco

    all customers have his vps in this moment for your information , also we speach here about a dedi not vps plan

  • jojokjojok Member

    @exception0x876 said:
    Do you mind to share why do you want that huge amount of storage in one server? I just don't understand why anyone would prefer it instead of using distributed storage software.

    I use it storage videos, what do you mean by distributed storage, can you give a example? :)

  • exception0x876exception0x876 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    @jojok said:
    I use it storage videos, what do you mean by distributed storage, can you give a example? :)

    Sure, I would recommend to check out GlusterFS as a clustered filesystem in LAN.

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  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    Do you have copyright to the videos you host or will that be a case of provider splashing thousands for the kit and then heaving to terminate you for breach of ToS ?

  • @jojok said:
    Hi, Currently I need a provider which can provide a 600tb+ storage server, and at 3gbps+ bandwidth ,any suggestion?

    I use it storage videos

    Google G-Suite is the answer. 8$ for unlimited storage.
    Get a little VPS and mount the GDrive with rclone.

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  • FalzoFalzo Member

    @Clouvider said:
    Do you have copyright to the videos you host or will that be a case of provider splashing thousands for the kit and then heaving to terminate you for breach of ToS ?

    you really think someone legally owning 600TB of video material worth to be hosted is going to ask for business in a two-line post like this on LET? hmm... ;-)

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @Falzo said:

    @Clouvider said:
    Do you have copyright to the videos you host or will that be a case of provider splashing thousands for the kit and then heaving to terminate you for breach of ToS ?

    you really think someone legally owning 600TB of video material worth to be hosted is going to ask for business in a two-line post like this on LET? hmm... ;-)

    Of course not, this was more of a warning post to fellow less experience hosters here ;-).

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  • jojokjojok Member

    @graphic said:

    @jojok said:
    Hi, Currently I need a provider which can provide a 600tb+ storage server, and at 3gbps+ bandwidth ,any suggestion?

    I use it storage videos

    Google G-Suite is the answer. 8$ for unlimited storage.
    Get a little VPS and mount the GDrive with rclone.

    as I know google driver will limit the file once you exceed the rate limit

  • jojok said: I use it storage videos

    How legal is this/do you have the required copyright for streaming/offering them for download?

    600TB is large, i doubt you only have them stored there, this is some kind of filehost or streaming.

    Also, 600TB on a single server is utterly dumb for many reasons (Among them: IO on CPU; IO on controllers; PCIe lanes for controllers; heat generation; PSU redundancy; N+1 server redundancy; expense on case; human error on exchanging HDDs; requirement to shut down entire service to change mainboard/CPU/RAM; single/few network card(s)....)

    3000$ pays your 3Gbit BW. And maybe a server that could do this. Without HDDs.

    600TB are at least 60 and at most (reasonable) 150 HDD bays. SM sells at most 90 x 3,5" which limits single server (in hot swap) to 8 (75) or 10TB (60) drives.

    • SM 90 bay list price is 2500EUR
    • 60*10TB HDDs - not enterprise - cost minimum 16500EUR
    • 75*8TB (non SMT, non enterprise) cost minimum 15300EUR
    • Mainboard, RAM and HBAs will run at least 2000EUR
    • Totals around 20000EUR, at a ROI of 12 months 1666EUR/mo plus power, plus BW

    Multiple servers might be able to get that into budget but also not with 3Gbit of useful BW.

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  • time4vpstime4vps Member, Host Rep

    Clouvider said: Do you have copyright to the videos you host

    Probably OP not even has such amount of video ready to be stored (even if it's porn). And certainly, he has no plans for copyright preservation either.

  • jojokjojok Member

    @William said:

    jojok said: I use it storage videos

    How legal is this/do you have the required copyright for streaming/offering them for download?

    600TB is large, i doubt you only have them stored there, this is some kind of filehost or streaming.

    Also, 600TB on a single server is utterly dumb for many reasons (Among them: IO on CPU; IO on controllers; PCIe lanes for controllers; heat generation; PSU redundancy; N+1 server redundancy; expense on case; human error on exchanging HDDs; requirement to shut down entire service to change mainboard/CPU/RAM; single/few network card(s)....)

    3000$ pays your 3Gbit BW. And maybe a server that could do this. Without HDDs.

    600TB are at least 60 and at most (reasonable) 150 HDD bays. SM sells at most 90 x 3,5" which limits single server (in hot swap) to 8 (75) or 10TB (60) drives.

    • SM 90 bay list price is 2500EUR
    • 60*10TB HDDs - not enterprise - cost minimum 16500EUR
    • 75*8TB (non SMT, non enterprise) cost minimum 15300EUR
    • Mainboard, RAM and HBAs will run at least 2000EUR
    • Totals around 20000EUR, at a ROI of 12 months 1666EUR/mo plus power, plus BW

    Multiple servers might be able to get that into budget but also not with 3Gbit of useful BW.

    I know 3000$ is not much, but that's my budget

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    jojok said: I know 3000$ is not much, but that's my budget

    Tough, I don't see you receiving any serious offers in that case.

    And of course until you can prove you have licensing rights to open the next Pornhub.

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  • ZerpyZerpy Member

    For 3000 USD you can get 526 hubic 10TB packages - that's 5.2 petabyte, each is limited to 10 megabit..

    10*526 = 5.2 gigabit

    There you go

    :'D

  • time4vps said: Probably OP not even has such amount of video ready to be stored (even if it's porn).

    Movie and Series wise it is easy to cross past 200TB especially in 1080p. That are "only" around 5k at 40G each.

    Filehoster wise as well, customers give you their data for piracy basically; it literally never ends....

  • Thanked by 1netomx
  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep
    edited July 2017

    jojok said: I know 3000$ is not much, but that's my budget

    The bandwidth may not be as expensive as @William suggests if you are connected exclusively to HE.net somewhere in the US where they sell 10G links for US$2,000. Still, single-homed HE.net doesn't sound that good to me, and actually pushing 3G (let alone 10G) would seem a bit of a stretch if the end user's ISP does not also have a good amount of transit directly with HE.net.

    But since you did not suggest that you would be hammering the line 24/7, I would guess your expected data transfer would be quite a bit less than the max capacity of 3Gbit, and you would just be bursting right?

    But what kind of redundancy do you want/need for your storage? Need any raid? Raid 5? Raid 6?

    The most cost effective drives are 4TB. 600TB = 150 drives (on paper). Since 4TB drives actually have more like 3.7TB of usable space, to get to 600TB you need 163. Assuming you don't mind using multiple servers, and assuming 8x SATA ports per server, that would be 21 servers.

    If you need RAID 5, then you need 24 servers and 187 drives.

    4TB Drive = about US$100
    187 * $100 = $18,700

    24 low end servers may be very cheap, but still assume $200 each on average. So $4,800 for the CPU/RAM/MB/PSU/Chassis.

    Total upfront cost will be >$23,500 (about inline with @William's 20k EUR estimate).

    But you also need to look at other operating costs like power, rack space, and use of infrastructure like switch ports and what have you.

    You can't possibly need that much storage all at once. It would take you around 20 days at full speed just to fill it up.

    You might find someone willing to do it if they can deliver servers 1 by 1, rather than all in 1 go, requiring a pretty sizable investment.

  • greenhousing.cz is maybe able to help you http://www.greenhousing.cz/en/price-list/storage-server-48-tb/ just ask them for a custom quote

  • TomTom Member

    @cociu said:

    Francisco said: You can't even get your current customers their storage and you think you can get someone 600TB?

    Francisco

    all customers have his vps in this moment for your information , also we speach here about a dedi not vps plan

    600TB in one server? That's going to go down well

  • pbgbenpbgben Member, Host Rep

    @jojok I can build you a cluster of servers running glusterFS with 600TB of raw storage scalable up and down to match your needs, you will pay the provider directly 2000gbp/month for the storage and I will take 400gbp for a one time setup fee for me to configure it.

  • "lowend" seems to be quite a scalable term these days

  • ZerpyZerpy Member

    @bluesega said:
    "lowend" seems to be quite a scalable term these days

    you can use lowend hardware for cluster setups ;)

  • YuraYura Member

    @bluesega said:
    "lowend" seems to be quite a scalable term these days

    Getting a 600TB storage from cociu is the lowest of ends

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  • next time on lowendtalk, 600TB fsck drama.

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