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ServerDragon Comes to Portland?
raindog308
Administrator, Veteran
Hey @KuJoe -
Saw your email announcement. Are you stocking normal OvZ in Portland, Oregon or just DDOS-protected OvZ?
I would certainly love a regular OvZ in PDX - a lot closer than Tampa :-)
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He told us in the IRC that the ddos protected clients will be moving to Oregon. Not sure about existing clients/new regular orders.
This is change I can believe in.
I didn't see the announcement. When is this effective?
Waiting on the move and activation out there before I pickup a DDoS protect service.
From the email:
Wow! Big pack of info there.
The DDoS proxy sounds real interesting.
Well best of luck to Server Dragon at the new locations. For me in eastern Canada I'm about ready to throw in the towel. The Florida location times out for me 7 or 8 times a day. Probably not SD's fault, just crappy routing. Denver, Portland are more west-oriented -- better for me to host in the EU. And now it looks like Atlanta, already crowded (IMO) with quality LEB providers. Thank SD, it was a good ride.
Eastern Canada... You should be good with the million offer army out of Buffalo, Choopa army, or many others.
We saw one on Peer1 network and other I think at Neteligent recently. But I assume you have other needs for these ehh? @sleddog
I have LEBs all over the place, including some of the ones you mention. Proven-over-time ones get assigned a production task. Until proven, they sit in the holding pool. Crappy ones get cancelled
I wish KuJoe the best, one of the provider I can really recommend.
Your method to the VPS madness is the same as mine it seems @sleddog.
"first off" .. man this is one my pet peeve words... It's one of those "extragrammatical idioms"
Used a lot in tech for some reason I just don't like the term... but that's just me
Anyway, interestingly, the first time this term was referenced officially was in the OED in 1880 with a quote from Mark Twain: ‘First-off, I thought it would certainly give me the botts.’
What the heck was Mark Twain referring to as the "botts"? @twain
19th century bandwidth. It totally sucked.
If you look at my e-mails/announcements, I tend to use the same phrases quite frequently. I really hate this but it's a force of habit. I always have a "first off" and a "lastly" if it's more than 3 paragraphs long. When I'm typing up anything other than e-mails/announcements my vocabulary tends to be much better, don't know why I am usually at a loss for words when it comes to important things like that.
I'll address some of the questions addressed to me in this thread and via PM now.
The Portland and Atlanta locations will be for DDOSProtect.Us VPSs only, we do not have the ability to offer unprotected IPs so all IPs will have at least 1Gbps of protection on them.
Originally the goal was to keep the current plans we offer, but after much discussing we're taking this opportunity to break out of the LEB market and expand our clientele as we've been noticing some changes in the LEB scene and have always known the market to be a volatile one so we don't want to be caught without other options in any event. Additionally, we've found that offer cheap DDOS protection attracts the wrong type of clients so we're going to be raising the prices just to keep the unwanted abusers off. It's a double-edge sword, keeping it cheap for the client on a budget also means making the service easily accessible for the 13 year old kid who wants to abuse it.
And yes, we are done with KVM. I just hate managing the node. While some people really hate OpenVZ and will never use it, I frankly don't care at this point. If they want $100 worth of DDOS Protection for $7 they will just have to accept OpenVZ or go elsewhere. If you knew how much I made an hour you'd understand why I automate as much of SD as possible and it's just not an option with KVM.
I've always viewed SecureDragon as a small, local Floridian VPS provider. Great to see it get larger!
You're not the one who's been under a constant 10Gbps SYN flood for over a month.
There's actually a specific reason: us computer nerds tend to think procedural, so we like things like "first off" and "lastly". "first off" is about as goofy as ending messages with "regards", but such is life
Well that's not a good sign for someone who's just beginning to offer it!
Interesting...I thought you said you hated Xen and were glad to phase it out in favor of KVM.
10Gbps SYN flood... ouch.
Don't get me wrong, it's not bad. It's just not something I want to manage. I already invest about 40 hours a week into SD, I don't enjoy working on Xen or KVM like I do OpenVZ. Heck, if we had another support tech who wanted to manage Xen/KVM we would have quite a bit more nodes.
I prefer KVM over Xen.
Steve wanted me to elaborate more on this comment.
A prime example of the abuse we've experienced is the client who was rewarding people on HF who could successfully take his VPS offline. They put a bounty on their VPS on Christmas Eve and on Christmas Day the CNServer techs wasted hours trying to keep this kid online creating custom ACLs and making changes to their network as the attacks reached over 4Gbps (they should have nullrouted him and billed us for the excess bandwidth but they were more concerned with keeping the client online). The client provided proof in the HF thread of VPS ownership and when confronted, the client didn't deny it and just said "thread is over a day old". He had been reselling our services previously on HF to kids who were in turn using them to protect themselves from counter-DDOS attacks they were sending to other kids. Pretty much it was one big DDOS game with us footing the bill.
It's also worth noting that all of the people on HF reselling our services are charging more than 3 times what we do for the same service.
I'm not really familiar with this, is there actually any regulations that prohibits DDOS?
I'm not sure what you mean by this. I know some people are trying to push legislation that makes DDOS attacks a protected form of protest, but as of right now it is against the law to perform a DOS attack and it normally breaks multiple laws in the process. The most common laws are those pertaining to gaining access to a computer without the owners consent.
No problem.
Pardon my English. Yes, I was asking about law(s) related to DOS.
Hmm.. Yeah, I just read wikipedia and got the general picture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack#Legality
Starting to really like these location options.
Network in Denver is great. 13-15 ms from Aurora on both CenturyLink and Comcast.
On other providers in the area, Qwest takes Cogent to LA to get to both of them. 85-90 ms Auora -> Denver
We pulled the server out of E Solutions today and boxed it up. We'll be shipping it out tomorrow since they won't be able to rack it until the new network is setup next week anyways (100Gbps network capacity, impressive) and I won't be able to configure the server until I get back from Denver on the 23rd anyways.
Just keeping you updated for those waiting patiently.