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OVH Launches 3 New Datacenters

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  • @pbgben said:

    @trewq said:

    @Oliver said:
    Just me or is it weird that motherboard uses a SoC CPU that they aren't offering as dedicated server?

    Exactly what I was thinking.

    This is most interesting... Dual SSD's as the offer states, m.2 is a huge bonus. RAM is 32GB and then the board is for a different CPU... Wonder if these are for a different offer or perhaps they miss advertised and GRRRRR

    Maybe it's for the upcoming public cloud and vps range?

  • Sounds like an ssd version of their existing hosting servers:

    https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/hosting/

  • I picked up a dedi server with @Oliver in the last month, and have had VPS with him for 3 1/2 years.
    My VPS has had amazing uptime (1 hour downtime for a migration), when I have had to log a ticket he has responded quickly and resolved the issue promptly.
    I would never expect the level of support I get from Oliver from someone like OVH. I would highly recommend his services.
    N/B: Loving my new Dedi! Thanks Oliver.

  • +1 for @Oliver

    I also picked up a Dedi couple of months back. Little no downtown! Deferentially worth the purchase.

  • @pbgben said:

    @trewq said:

    @Oliver said:
    Just me or is it weird that motherboard uses a SoC CPU that they aren't offering as dedicated server?

    Exactly what I was thinking.

    This is most interesting... Dual SSD's as the offer states, m.2 is a huge bonus. RAM is 32GB and then the board is for a different CPU... Wonder if these are for a different offer or perhaps they miss advertised and GRRRRR

    Could also be that they're preparing their vps line already.

  • teamacc said:

    Could also be that they're preparing their vps line already.

    The 2016 vps line supposedly used E5 processors. Switching to the D-1541 doesn't seem ideal, but I guess it's possible.

  • GamerTech24GamerTech24 Member
    edited February 2017

    @pbgben said:

    @trewq said:

    @Oliver said:
    Just me or is it weird that motherboard uses a SoC CPU that they aren't offering as dedicated server?

    Exactly what I was thinking.

    This is most interesting... Dual SSD's as the offer states, m.2 is a huge bonus. RAM is 32GB and then the board is for a different CPU... Wonder if these are for a different offer or perhaps they miss advertised and GRRRRR

    They may have the current Discovery servers elsewhere, I assume then that is some other offer of dedicated servers, the discovery servers are most likely 1U rackmount, presumably air-cooled in these new locations as opposed to watercooling in BHS, etc. was hoping to see them use their innovative watercooling over there as it gets pretty hot in Australia, but we never know

  • trewqtrewq Administrator, Patron Provider

    @ethancedrik said:

    @pbgben said:

    @trewq said:

    @Oliver said:
    Just me or is it weird that motherboard uses a SoC CPU that they aren't offering as dedicated server?

    Exactly what I was thinking.

    This is most interesting... Dual SSD's as the offer states, m.2 is a huge bonus. RAM is 32GB and then the board is for a different CPU... Wonder if these are for a different offer or perhaps they miss advertised and GRRRRR

    They may have the current Discovery servers elsewhere, I assume then that is some other offer of dedicated servers

    But it's a marketing post. Why wouldn't they post pictures of the servers people are actually waiting on? Doesn't make sense.

  • Because it looks pretty.

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  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    ethancedrik said: They may have the current Discovery servers elsewhere, I assume then that is some other offer of dedicated servers, the discovery servers are most likely 1U rackmount, presumably air-cooled in these new locations as opposed to watercooling in BHS, etc. was hoping to see them use their innovative watercooling over there as it gets pretty hot in Australia, but we never know

    Maybe they can use watercooling in their own custom built DCs, but in Australia they are in Equinix (SY4 apparently) based on all the reports/info I have ready. So I doubt they can do watercooling systems in a normal DC...

  • GamerTech24GamerTech24 Member
    edited February 2017

    I had reason to believe they had bought their own building at 90 Arthur Street, North Sydney NSW according to the whois listed here http://bgp.he.net/net/139.99.128.0/17#_whois which would indicate they have their own building, although there is no confirmation of that, oles hasn't posted any pics of the building itself like he has with the US datacenters so we just don't know yet, that address could also just be their office building in AU for their employees and then the actual servers are in Equinix SY4.

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep
    edited February 2017

    @ethancedrik said:
    I had reason to believe they had bought their own building at 90 Arthur Street, North Sydney NSW according to the whois listed here http://bgp.he.net/net/139.99.128.0/17#_whois which would indicate they have their own building, although there is no confirmation of that, oles hasn't posted any pics of the building itself like he has with the US datacenters so we just don't know yet, that address could also just be their office building in AU for their employees and then the actual servers are in Equinix SY4.

    I think that is just an office building, perhaps they have office staff there only.

    http://www.afr.com/real-estate/blackstones-151-property-group-makes-30m-on-90-arthur-street-20160804-gqleyc

    On other forums staff from other providers mention having seen and spoken to OVH staff in Equinix facilities while they were there 'racking and stacking' recently.

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  • teamaccteamacc Member
    edited February 2017

    Apparently 90 Arthur St was for sale lease by Colliers (streetview):

    And it was sold in August 2016 to a German company called Deutsche AWM, which is part of Deutsche Bank (source):

    They bought the entire property (75M with 8.2k per m2) which works out to be 9150 m2, which is different from what the sign up front said.

    But given that said number is correct, it seems a bit large for a "local office" and one would suspect it to be their DC.

  • pbgbenpbgben Member, Host Rep

    @Oliver said:

    @ethancedrik said:
    I had reason to believe they had bought their own building at 90 Arthur Street, North Sydney NSW according to the whois listed here http://bgp.he.net/net/139.99.128.0/17#_whois which would indicate they have their own building, although there is no confirmation of that, oles hasn't posted any pics of the building itself like he has with the US datacenters so we just don't know yet, that address could also just be their office building in AU for their employees and then the actual servers are in Equinix SY4.

    I think that is just an office building, perhaps they have office staff there only.

    http://www.afr.com/real-estate/blackstones-151-property-group-makes-30m-on-90-arthur-street-20160804-gqleyc

    On other forums staff from other providers mention having seen and spoken to OVH staff in Equinix facilities while they were there 'racking and stacking' recently.

    Indeed, I would hope its just their edge network, DDOS and cloud/cdn will be at SY4 for better latency, I assume that could be where their dark fiber hauls back to. This is just a hope for them to have their own location.

    Unrealistic tho, as Oles has posted pictures of them kitting out every other DC except Sing and Aus.

    If SY4 has chillers then OVH could theoretically tap into those with a water>water heat exchanger.

    Seeing as OVH do that because of their "Free Air" style DC construction, this wont work in SYD, cold breeze needed.

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep
    edited February 2017

    That's the thread I am referring to (and have taken part in as well) @ethancedrik

    Australia is a tiny market so for any host like OVH to come in and build their own facility would be totally over the top. I think even SoftLayer and other big international providers who came into the market here just took space in other facilities and didn't build their own. In fact as far as I know there are no foreign hosting companies who have their own DCs here. The DC market here is dominated by Equinix and an AU company called NextDC, then there are some smaller companies with 1-5 smaller facilities of their own.

    @teamacc it's an office building; many suites/offices of varying sizes and many tenants. They might just have 1 office there for staff.

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    @pbgben why do you hope for them to have 'their own location'? I genuinely wonder why it is important to be in their own facility vs. another larger one (like Equinix)?

  • pbgbenpbgben Member, Host Rep

    @Oliver said:
    @pbgben why do you hope for them to have 'their own location'? I genuinely wonder why it is important to be in their own facility vs. another larger one (like Equinix)?

    A new hope, :P No other reason.

    Also, they have Melbourne listed as their offices. Wonder why they need one in SYD too.

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    Probably for hands on/local staff to the DC.

  • trewqtrewq Administrator, Patron Provider

    @Oliver said:
    That's the thread I am referring to (and have taken part in as well) @ethancedrik

    Australia is a tiny market so for any host like OVH to come in and build their own facility would be totally over the top. I think even SoftLayer and other big international providers who came into the market here just took space in other facilities and didn't build their own. In fact as far as I know there are no foreign hosting companies who have their own DCs here. The DC market here is dominated by Equinix and an AU company called NextDC, then there are some smaller companies with 1-5 smaller facilities of their own.

    @teamacc it's an office building; many suites/offices of varying sizes and many tenants. They might just have 1 office there for staff.

    Softlayer have their own facility in Dear Park, Vic.

  • GamerTech24GamerTech24 Member
    edited February 2017

    @pbgben said:

    @Oliver said:
    @pbgben why do you hope for them to have 'their own location'? I genuinely wonder why it is important to be in their own facility vs. another larger one (like Equinix)?

    A new hope, :P No other reason.

    Also, they have Melbourne listed as their offices. Wonder why they need one in SYD too.

    oh that's right, if there office is indeed in Melbourne, then I don't know why they'd also need one in Sydney. That building is 98489.78 square feet which is pretty large and would easily allow them to have offices and run a datacenter out of it if OVH indeed owns the building.

    In other locations they've used Equinix as their PoP, this mainly came up during the Warsaw datacenter coming online, so they could be using Equinix as their AU PoP and having their own datacenter, realistically as far as costs go I don't know how possible that would be for them. Running fiber from Equinix SYD4 over to their own actual datacenter where the servers would exist

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    @trewq are you sure it's their own? All the press material when it launched indicated they fit out one owned by some other company called Digital Realty.

  • They do mention Equinix as their AU PoP

  • trewqtrewq Administrator, Patron Provider

    @Oliver said:
    @trewq are you sure it's their own? All the press material when it launched indicated they fit out one owned by some other company called Digital Realty.

    Pretty sure Digital Reality is an investment company closely related to them. For all intents and purposes it's theirs.

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    @ethancedrik OVH doesn't own that Arthur Street building though. It's a standard commercial office building and has existing tenants and offices in it. It only changed hands last year as a lot of public records/reports show. I am not sure how much you know about Australian geography but Melbourne and Sydney are not exactly close to one another; if a company has a DC and any significant amount of gear in one city they would want staff there to be able to handle hands on work. I know of even medium sized telcos with a rack of comms gear who will have staff in Sydney so that in emergencies they have someone there promptly and don't have to get someone onto a flight urgently.

    What is most likely based on current information is that they have 'their DC' in a Equinix facility, office staff for main sales/support in Melbourne, and an office in Sydney somewhere for technical staff (the Arthur Street building perhaps). Note also that a lot of companies just have some small office somewhere for a local mailing/administrative address - it doesn't even guarantee that it is staffed. There are buildings in Melbourne and Sydney that probably have thousands of companies linked to them because of some office services they provide.

    @trewq I don't think the link is that close. If you research Digital Realty they are a specialised DC provider and public listed company who offer large DC fit outs for bigger clients. They are completely separate to SoftLayer who is just a customer of theirs. SoftLayer, Facebook and others who want more flexibility and space than a standard DC like Equinix would provide would be clients of Digital Realty. They claim to be bigger than Equinix (that part surprised me)...

  • GamerTech24GamerTech24 Member
    edited February 2017

    Yeah, even in the current situation OVH has employees who have to run out to plug in KVM, etc when ordered. so I see what you mean with them wanting to have people staffed close to where they would have their servers located, most likely inside Equinix from what we know so far. I wasn't aware the Arthur building was just leased out as offices, but this all makes logical sense when I think about it, plus we have gotten pics of all the buildings they're buying and none have been of their Singapore or Sydney locations.

    More info about SY4 http://www.equinix.com/locations/australia-colocation/sydney-data-centers/sy4/

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    I know OVH is huge and can build their own DCs but you guys have to keep in mind that the Australian market is absolutely TINY. Even though Sydney is a 'global city' and hub for many companies in the region this is still a country of only 24 million people. Dumping enormous amounts of capacity into a mature and developed market with relatively high costs by developed world standards just doesn't make sense. Power, network capacity, and especially staffing here probably cost more than basically every other country OVH is working in.

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  • WSSWSS Member
    edited February 2017

    @Oliver said:
    I know OVH is huge and can build their own DCs but you guys have to keep in mind that the Australian market is absolutely TINY. Even though Sydney is a 'global city' and hub for many companies in the region this is still a country of only 24 million people. Dumping enormous amounts of capacity into a mature and developed market with relatively high costs by developed world standards just doesn't make sense. Power, network capacity, and especially staffing here probably cost more than basically every other country OVH is working in.

    Sure, but being a French company, they're used to dealing with fascists. (It's a joke. Please don't kill my LES.)

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    It's OK, I don't really get it anyway. I was more thinking 'being a French company, they are used to cheap power and government assistance'. :-D

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  • I was making fun of the extreme level of politics in Oz. The best of the worst of GB and the US, and your own goodness at the same time. Setting up an OZ DC, well.. maybe- if you can eventually convince Bezos to deliver fat pizzas..

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