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RAM VS CPU
dosserversca
Member
Hello,
im intersted in what more important for people
more ram and less cpu
or
more cpu less ram?
Comments
I don't think you'll have a definite answer. There are all sorts of use cases and they all vary. This is why there are different plans.
For a VPS a decent CPU even 1 core is fine and a fair allocation of RAM, if you need dedicated cores you should probably be looking at a dedicated server anyway.
my 2c
I use more ram that cpu but always im insuring that my disk performances are ok.
@ AnthonySmith
hmm well u can find vps with 2 and 4 cores, you dont have to take dedicated server
However, you still share theses cores with the other VPS on the node.
@japon
not always,
if u use OpenVZ and the server have 8 cores and u put 8 VPS then this like dedicated
if u use Xen or KVM u get dedicated cores
but again we going to another point lets back to the thaerd point
i want to know if users need more cpu or more ram
That's not necessarily true either.
RAM
this really isn't a black and white question, every application scenario will be different.
For me at least 1 VCPU for every 256MB of RAM.
Yes fair enough that is very true, but if you find a host on a $7 budget that will give you a honest to dog, truly dedicated unrestricted core with your VPS as part of a standard plan then either you should sue for false advertising or take their arm off for it
I offer Xen hosting, cores are equal share, KVM is no different 9/10
@AnthonySmith
well i also offer vps but i have 2 diffrent options budget vps that its not 100% 1 core its around 50-75%
and also offer normal vps packges ther every core are 100% not shared
I think many of us, providers included, would love to know how much you charge for the normal VPS packages with dedicated cores.
So you normally just put 4-8 VPS on a dedicated server?
@Kenshin
You can go to my website that i offer normal vps packages here: http://entervps.com/
and budget vps i offer on http://betavps.net/
@japon
Yep on normal packages
So for the standard VPS 4, you put 1 customers in 1 server, or 2 customers? E3-1230 is a 4 core 8 thread CPU, so based on your dedicated core allocation, I should get a full dedicated server when I buy the standard VPS 4.
@Kenshin
i put 2 clients on plan 4 every one get 4 cores (as the server has HT)
This is already false advertisement. There isn't 4 cores. There are 4 cores and 8 threads as mentioned by Kenshin.
So if I 100% saturate my 4 cores, it wouldn't be a problem?
@concerto49
you are right can u suggest me how to write in on the website?
i dont want confuse clients
Are you aware that HT creates virtual cores not real cores, and if client A runs 4 cores at 100% 24/7, client B has no cores left because HT uses the left-over cycles of the 4 cores, since most processes never make use of 100% of a clock cycle. At 100% usage x4 cores, there's no cycles left.
@seraphkz
Yes
@Kenshin
Yes but can u give me example of what client can usee 4 cores 100%? u can read in our TOS we dont allow iligal things
That's not entirely correct.
There are two threads. The CPU core actually has two blocks of processing units, except for things like cache / memory and a few other components.
If the processes don't share memory etc it CAN actually execute on the same core at the same time as though it's two cores.
My explanation isn't 100% correct as I forget the exact technical details, but this is what hyper-threading is. There is actually duplicated hardware, just not a full core.
Ok everyone please come back to the poit of this post
If you advertise a specific amount of "dedicated" cores to customers then they'll most likely be important for them as they might rely on that. Same goes for the RAM.
But I doubt very much, that you just put two clients on that E3-1230 (8GB RAM, 400GB Disk, 8 IPs, 60Mb/s unmetered) when those two clients can only generate $50 in total. That means that the server must not cost you more than $50, reduced by the price for processing the payment, without having any income from it. Very unlikely.
Just refreshed my memory, you're right there's two registers so it appears to the OS as 2 separate cores, but everything else isn't duplicated. Both can execute in parallel as long as they use different parts of the execution core, or if one thread is stalled the other can step in to make use of the cpu cycle. Guess after 10 years since the launch of HT I pretty much only remembered the layman theory.
Bitcoin mining, folding. Both perfectly legal, and guaranteed to murder the CPU.
Welcome to LET, the place where we'll always go off topic once we see something interesting, in your case, the core issue.
@japon
the server has E3-1230 (16GB RAM, 2X1TB Disk, 14 IPs, 100Mb/s unmetered)
I can't help but laugh when I read this alongside the name of your company.
Which means if you want to sell dedicated cores, you should just sell 1 Core, 3.5GB RAM, 400GB HDD, 3 IPs, 25mbps unmetered. Price it well and you should be able to sell and make a profit at the same time.
Relax man, he can be referring to the good ole MS-DOS.