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EU Based Dedicated Rig / 16GB RAM & 240+GB SSD
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EU Based Dedicated Rig / 16GB RAM & 240+GB SSD

JWU42JWU42 Member
edited January 2016 in Requests

Willing to pay a year for a discount. Have a similar set-up with Delimiter (8GB RAM on Dual L5520 with 240GB SSD) now and love their network just looking for an EU counterpart. Prefer an E3 option as the 16 threads of a dual L5520 is overkill (need higher single threaded performance and more RAM). I would be willing to supply my own Intel 750 (PCIe based) SSD as well.

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  • What is your budget for this?

    Also for the Intel 750 you will want a PCIe Gen3, Gen2 is noticeably slower.

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Provider

    More than happy to help! Budget :)?

  • JWU42JWU42 Member
    edited January 2016

    @MarkTurner - yes, on the Intel750 would need PCIe Gen3 so I figured that certainly rules out the L series Xeons.

    Budget is ~$40/mo (assuming an annual discount)

    I prefer 1 Gigabit but can get by with 100Mbps. 5TB would be plenty and could get by with 2TB if that helps with pricing.

  • bersybersy Member
    edited January 2016

    Worldstream have i3-2100 dedi (20% less single-core performance than e3-1230, according to Primatelabs). 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD config is $45/m (yearly payment). E3-1230v2, 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD config is $48/m.

    Online.net used to offer E3-1230v3, 32GB, 2x120GB SSD for $34/m without setup fee, that was a really great deal. It was a promo and not available anymore. But they make various promo offers from time to time.

  • exception0x876exception0x876 Member, Provider

    https://www.hetzner.de/us/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex41ssd

    But I doubt they will allow to install your own PCIe SSD

  • The one from SoYouStart maybe?

    Just restocked on the 3x120GB SSD

    https://eu.soyoustart.com/en/cgi-bin/newOrder/order.cgi?hard=143sys13

  • JWU42JWU42 Member
    edited January 2016

    @Bersy - I have been looking for that online.net deal all the time!

    20EUR for an SSD is rather pricey. Also that is 100Mbps - not a deal killer but not my preference. 50TB allowed - seems hard to hit at 100 Mbps...

  • @exception0x876 said:
    https://www.hetzner.de/us/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex41ssd

    But I doubt they will allow to install your own PCIe SSD

    Thanks - the EUR79 setup fee kills it for me.

  • cassacassa Member, Provider

    @JWU42 said:
    Thanks - the EUR79 setup fee kills it for me.

    Then take a look here: https://robot.your-server.de/order/market/country/US, no setup fee :)

  • bersybersy Member
    edited January 2016

    If you don't mind SeFlow, it looks like their i5-2500, 16Gb RAM, 240GB SSD config is $29/m.

  • WHTWHT Member
    edited January 2016

    @bersy said:
    If you don't mind SeFlow, it looks like their i5-2500, 16Gb RAM, 240GB SSD config is $29/m.

    @bersy you know the history with seflow and Interpol lol?

  • WHT said: @bersy you know the history with seflow and Interpol lol?

    I do

  • JWU42JWU42 Member
    edited January 2016

    @WHT said:
    bersy you know the history with seflow and Interpol lol?

    I don't but seeing your comment that cannot be good...

    EDIT Some quick googling gave me all the info I need - avoiding seflow...

  • The problem you're going to come up against with these NVMe's - most box shifters will use 1U cases and some cases won't fit the NVMe SSD properly, it snags on the motherboard's passive heatsinks or the heat coming off the NVMe SSD causes the motherboard to overheat.

    I played (unsuccessfully) with this early last year with 1U Lenovo, Supermicro and HP boxes. I found optimal cooling was achieved where the NVMe SSD was vertical so 1U pizza boxes were out the window.

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  • Try WorldStream as suggested before.

    They don't use rack servers for their dedicated servers. They use professional Dell and Lenovo desktop style servers.

    They also don't charge for putting in your own disks, only if you want to change the setup afterwards.

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  • @classy said:
    Try WorldStream as suggested before.

    They don't use rack servers for their dedicated servers. They use professional Dell and Lenovo desktop style servers.

    They also don't charge for putting in your own disks, only if you want to change the setup afterwards.

    Thanks - might give them a shot. Is there anyone from worldstream that watches LET or best to shoot them an e-mail? Only downside I see is 100Mbps port speed :/. I do move some large (80+ GB) files about every 10-14 days that would be far easier on gigabit.

  • KamAKamA Member, Provider

    @JWU42 said:
    Thanks - might give them a shot. Is there anyone from worldstream that watches LET or best to shoot them an e-mail? Only downside I see is 100Mbps port speed :/. I do move some large (80+ GB) files about every 10-14 days that would be far easier on gigabit.

    I don't think there's anyone here who represents them, so email or live chat is probably the best option.

    As for the network speed, they offer upgrades to 1 Gbps for around €10 extra.

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  • JWU42JWU42 Member
    edited January 2016

    @IntroVex said:
    As for the network speed, they offer upgrades to 1 Gbps for around €10 extra.

    Yep - noticed that. A 25% increase in server cost for gigabit is not viable for me...

  • KamAKamA Member, Provider

    @JWU42 said:
    Yep - noticed that. A 25% increase in server cost for gigabit is not viable for me...

    Completely understandable.

    I'd recommend ServDiscount. They have an E3 with 2x 120 GB SSDs for just shy of €30. Only downside is the German checkout process and occasional German emails, wasn't a bother for me as a German speaker, but for others I can understand it could be a deal breaker. Google translate should be able to make it somewhat understandable, however. They do offer English support too.

    (I'm not affiliated with ServDiscount, just a happy customer)

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  • @introvex: how is their network? Thank you for suggestion.

  • @JWU42
    @HWAYS

    If you (or anyone else) requires some native German speaker, just let me know.

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  • Thank you, Wolf

  • KamAKamA Member, Provider

    @HWAYS said:
    introvex: how is their network? Thank you for suggestion.

    I've yet to have downtime. Had the server for just over a month - here's the classic bench.sh output:

    System Info
    -----------
    Processor   : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1230 V2 @ 3.30GHz
    CPU Cores   : 8
    Frequency   : 3292.610 MHz
    Memory      : 670 MB
    Swap        : 8191 MB
    Uptime      : 38 days, 8:28,
    
    OS      : CentOS release 6.7 (Final)
    Arch        : x86_64 (64 Bit)
    Kernel      : 3.18.21-16.el6.x86_64
    Hostname    : hostname
    
    
    Speedtest (IPv4 only)
    ---------------------
    Your public IPv4 is 193.111.xxx.xxx
    
    Location        Provider    Speed
    CDN         Cachefly    50.1MB/s
    
    Atlanta, GA, US     Coloat      2.42MB/s 
    Dallas, TX, US      Softlayer   4.98MB/s 
    Seattle, WA, US     Softlayer   4.58MB/s 
    San Jose, CA, US    Softlayer   4.35MB/s 
    Washington, DC, US  Softlayer   5.91MB/s 
    
    Tokyo, Japan        Linode      4.14MB/s 
    Singapore       Softlayer   2.84MB/s 
    
    Rotterdam, Netherlands  id3.net     59.6MB/s
    Haarlem, Netherlands    Leaseweb    46.0MB/s 
    
    
    Disk Speed
    ----------
    I/O (1st run)   : 99.2 MB/s
    I/O (2nd run)   : 103 MB/s
    I/O (3rd run)   : 106 MB/s
    Average I/O : 102.733 MB/s
    

    I have the option with 2x 1 TB HDDs, rather than the SSD option. It's not bad for the price and I've yet to contact support for anything more than a glitch. Their IPs can be swapped between server mode and virtualization mode. Virtualization mode is for servers running a hypervisor so that IPs can be allocated to VPS'. The problem was that I ordered a new IP (€1 extra per IP per month) and it hadn't gone into virtualization mode. The support team's response was quick and gave me a rather brute force method of fixing it - flicking the option between the two modes a few times - but I wasn't too concerned with the solution, so long as it solved my issue, which it did.

  • @IntroVex: how much is an additional IP with ServDiscount ? Thanks

  • KamAKamA Member, Provider

    @HWAYS said:
    IntroVex: how much is an additional IP with ServDiscount ? Thanks

    €1 per IP per month

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  • Thank you.

  • pbgbenpbgben Member, Provider

    @JWU42 said:
    Thanks - might give them a shot. Is there anyone from worldstream that watches LET or best to shoot them an e-mail? Only downside I see is 100Mbps port speed :/. I do move some large (80+ GB) files about every 10-14 days that would be far easier on gigabit.

    @WorldStream

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  • JWU42JWU42 Member
    edited January 2016

    @introvex Thanks for the bench. The speeds to the US are very poor :/

    What I am currently seeing from Delemiter (240GB SSD).

        System Info
        -----------
        Processor       : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           L5520  @ 2.27GHz
        CPU Cores       : 16
        Frequency       : 2266.922 MHz
        Memory          : 7990 MB
        Swap            : 9911 MB
        Uptime          : 85 days, 13:31,
    
        OS              : Debian GNU/Linux 8
        Arch            : x86_64 (64 Bit)
        Kernel          : 3.16.0-4-amd64
        Hostname        : foo.bar
    
    
        Speedtest (IPv4 only)
        ---------------------
        Your public IPv4 is 199.233.xxx.xxx
    
        Location                Provider        Speed
        CDN                     Cachefly        101MB/s
    
        Atlanta, GA, US         Coloat          78.3MB/s
        Dallas, TX, US          Softlayer       48.6MB/s
        Seattle, WA, US         Softlayer       23.6MB/s
        San Jose, CA, US        Softlayer       24.1MB/s
        Washington, DC, US      Softlayer       26.0MB/s
    
        Tokyo, Japan            Linode          14.2MB/s
        Singapore               Softlayer       6.55MB/s
    
        Rotterdam, Netherlands  id3.net         11.0MB/s
        Haarlem, Netherlands    Leaseweb        50.0MB/s
    
    
        Disk Speed
        ----------
        I/O (1st run)   : 194 MB/s
        I/O (2nd run)   : 201 MB/s
        I/O (3rd run)   : 197 MB/s
        Average I/O     : 197.333 MB/s
    
  • KamAKamA Member, Provider

    @JWU42 said:
    introvex Thanks for the bench. The speeds to the US are very poor :/

    Yeah, the network isn't the best to the US. It's decent enough to the UK, that being my basis for recommending them.

    WorldStream is probably the way to go then. They have a far better network than ServDiscount do.

    Perhaps OVH or one of their subsidiaries - namely SoYouStart - is a worthy contender. Both have setup fees though, so that's something to watch out for.

  • Zare (in UK) looks good but prices are $$$. Still looking...

    Worldstream network to the US is a concern so while they seem to be a good option just not ideal for me.

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