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    [NL] Premium Black Friday to Cyber Monday special || Lifetime 40% OFF on all our (SSD) VPSes!

    LiteServerLiteServer Member, Provider
    edited November 2016 in Offers

    LiteServer is your partner for quality and affordable IT services.

    BLACK FRIDAY TO CYBER MONDAY SPECIAL!
    All orders placed between now and Monday 28 November (23:59h CET) can use the following coupon that gives 40% recurring discount!.
    Use coupon: BLACKFRIDAY40OFF
    All order links in this offer already contain this 40% OFF coupon code.
    This is a lifetime coupon, and also remains valid on future upgrades!

    After Black Monday a 15% OFF coupon will remain valid until the end of this year. Use coupon: VPS15OFF

    Looking for more discount on top of our coupons?
    - Prepay for 3 months and get 3% additional discount
    - Prepay for 6 months and get 6% additional discount
    - Prepay for 12 months and get 9% additional discount

    Why LiteServer?
    - We are no reseller. We have our own racks, equipment and network - one of the keys to provide a quality and reliable service.
    - We are in business since 2007 and provide rock solid services. You can trust us!
    - Premium network with quality IP transit and peering
    - Lightning fast VPS nodes
    - We don't oversell our VPS nodes, and guarantee performance at any time of the day
    - Instant setup
    - Friendly and professional support. Customers are not just a number at LiteServer!

    Recent customer review / recommendations:
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/1920449/#Comment_1920449
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/1887737/#Comment_1887737
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/1861925/#Comment_1861925
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/1793588/#Comment_1793588
    https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1587325
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/1703538/#Comment_1703538
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/1688304/#Comment_1688304
    https://lowendbox.com/blog/liteserver-ssd-ssd-cached-openvz-kvm-starting-at-e13-60year-dronten-netherlands/#comment-607245
    https://lowendbox.com/blog/liteserver-ssd-ssd-cached-openvz-kvm-starting-at-e13-60year-dronten-netherlands/#comment-607260
    https://lowendbox.com/blog/liteserver-ssd-ssd-cached-openvz-kvm-starting-at-e13-60year-dronten-netherlands/#comment-607290
    https://lowendbox.com/blog/liteserver-ssd-ssd-cached-openvz-kvm-starting-at-e13-60year-dronten-netherlands/#comment-607350

    We offer 3 type of VPS plans:
    #SSD VPS Series:
    These are our standard KVM/OpenVZ plans with 100% SSD storage. The amount of memory, storage and bandwidth are all "balanced".

    #Traffic VPS Series:
    These KVM/OpenVZ VPS series are mainly designed for clients who use their VPS for high bandwidth purposes. For example, shoutcast streaming servers or private VPNs. The traffic VPS series have SSD-Cached based storage, and will come with a lower amount of storage than our SSD / Storage VPS plans. In exchange for the lower amount of storage, you'll get double the amount of monthly bandwidth. When you are looking for a lot of bandwidth, while storage is less important, the traffic VPS series are the ones you're looking for!

    #Storage VPS Series:
    Our storage series are ideal for people that require a high amount of storage (backups for example). These nodes have SSD Cached storage. Data that is frequently access will be stored on the cache SSDs, while the data which is less frequently accessed will run off the SATA drives. Average I/O performance will be close to that of our SSD plans, especially the data which is frequently being accessed.

    Included with all VPS plans:
    - Instant setup
    - 1Gbps shared uplink
    - 1 IPv4 address
    - /64 IPv6 subnet
    - SolusVM VPS control panel
    - Reverse DNS

    OpenVZ based LEB VPS plans:

    ##### OPENVZ SSD SERIES: #####

    #OVZ-SSD-128
    - 1 CPU Core
    - 128MB ram
    - 128MB VSwap
    - 15GB SSD Storage
    - 1TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 9,60 / year
    ORDER (Coupon included)


    #OVZ-SSD-256
    - 1 CPU Core
    - 256MB RAM
    - 256MB VSwap
    - 50GB SSD Storage
    - 2 TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 4,50 / quarterly
    ORDER (Coupon included)


    #OVZ-SSD-512
    - 2 CPU Cores
    - 512MB RAM
    - 512MB VSwap
    - 100GB SSD Storage
    - 3TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 3,00 / month
    ORDER (Coupon included)



    ##### OPENVZ TRAFFIC SERIES: #####

    #OVZ-TRAFFIC-128
    - 1 CPU Core
    - 128MB RAM
    - 128MB VSwap
    - 5GB SSD Cached Storage
    - 2TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 9,60 / year
    ORDER (Coupon included)


    #OVZ-TRAFFIC-256
    - 1 CPU Core
    - 256MB RAM
    - 256MB VSwap
    - 20GB SSD Cached Storage
    - 4TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 4,50 / quarterly
    ORDER (Coupon included)


    #OVZ-TRAFFIC-512
    - 1 CPU Core
    - 512MB RAM
    - 512MB VSwap
    - 35GB SSD Cached Storage
    - 6TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 3,00 / month
    ORDER (Coupon included)



    ##### OPENVZ STORAGE SERIES: #####

    #OVZ-STORAGE-128
    - 1 CPU Core
    - 128MB RAM
    - 128MB VSwap
    - 100GB SSD Cached Storage
    - 1TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 9,60 / year
    ORDER (Coupon included)


    #OVZ-STORAGE-256
    - 1 CPU Core
    - 256MB RAM
    - 256MB VSwap
    - 200GB SSD Cached Storage
    - 2TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 4,50 / quarterly
    ORDER (Coupon included)


    #OVZ-STORAGE-512
    - 2 CPU Cores
    - 512MB RAM
    - 256MB VSwap
    - 300GB SSD Cached Storage
    - 3TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 3,00 / month
    ORDER (Coupon included)

    KVM based LEB VPS plans:

    ##### KVM SSD SERIES: #####

    #KVM-SSD-256
    - 1 CPU Core
    - 256MB RAM
    - 25GB SSD Storage
    - 2TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 4,50 / quarterly
    ORDER (Coupon included)


    #KVM-SSD-512
    - 2 CPU Cores
    - 512MB RAM
    - 50GB SSD Storage
    - 3TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 3,00 / month
    ORDER (Coupon included)



    ##### KVM TRAFFIC SERIES: #####

    #KVM-TRAFFIC-256
    - 1 CPU Core
    - 256MB RAM
    - 5GB SSD Cached Storage
    - 4TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 4,50 / quarterly
    ORDER (Coupon included)


    #KVM-TRAFFIC-512
    - 1 CPU Core
    - 512MB RAM
    - 15GB SSD Cached Storage
    - 6TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 3,00 / month
    ORDER (Coupon included)



    ##### KVM STORAGE SERIES: #####

    #KVM-STORAGE-256
    - 1 CPU Core
    - 256MB RAM
    - 50GB SSD Cached Storage
    - 2TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 4,50 / quarterly
    ORDER (Coupon included)


    #KVM-STORAGE-512
    - 2 CPU Cores
    - 512MB RAM
    - 100GB SSD Cache Storage
    - 3TB bandwidth / month

    Price with Black Friday to Cyber Monday 40% OFF coupon: € 3,00 / month
    ORDER (Coupon included)

    ++++++++++
    Frequently asked questions:

    Q: What Operating Systems are available?
    We offer a wide range of Operating Systems. We have a knowledgebase article that lists all available Operating Systems:
    https://clients.liteserver.nl/knowledgebase.php?action=displayarticle&id=1

    Q: Where can I found your AUP (Acceptable Usage Policy) and TOS (Terms of Service)?
    AUP: https://www.liteserver.nl/en/acceptable-usage-policy/
    TOS: https://www.liteserver.nl/en/terms-of-service/

    Q: What payment options are available?
    You can pay with PayPal, Bank Transfer, Credit Card or Bitcoin.

    Q: Are your prices including VAT?
    All our prices are excluding VAT. If you live in Europe your local VAT tax rate will apply. Companies within the EU that can provide a valid VAT number will get a 0% VAT invoice after approval. Customers outside the EU don't have to pay any VAT.

    Q: Is the included bandwidth being reset each month?
    Yes! The bandwidth counter for your VPS will be reset on the first day of the month.

    Q: Where is my VPS hosted?
    Your VPS will be hosted in the center of The Netherlands. More details regarding our location can be found on our website.

    Q: What is the difference between OpenVZ and KVM?
    We have a knowledgebase article that describes the differences in detail:
    https://clients.liteserver.nl/knowledgebase.php?action=displayarticle&id=13

    Q: Are your VPSes unmanaged our managed?
    All our VPSes mentioned are unmanaged, which means you need to take of the OS/software part. You may open a support ticket for technical questions.

    Q: Do you have a looking glass and testfiles available?
    Looking Glass: http://lg-dro.liteserver.nl
    Test IPv4: 185.31.172.235
    Test IPv6: 2a01:6340:1:20:3::10
    Testfiles: http://testfiles.liteserver.nl

    Q: Which network are you using?
    We operate our own network AS60404.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Company and Contact information:
    LiteServer
    The Netherlands
    https://www.liteserver.nl
    Chamber of Commerce: 18090797
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/LiteServer
    Info: info[AT]liteserver.nl
    Sales: sales[AT]liteserver.nl
    Support: support[AT]liteserver.nl

    LiteServer.nl - Since 2007 the place where quality meets you!
    NL located // AS60404 // OpenVZ + KVM + NVMe + SSD + SSD Cached VPSes // LEB plans starting at 128 MB

    Comments

    • gleertgleert Member, Provider
    • NekkiNekki Moderator

      I fell asleep before I even got to the offers.

      Thanked by 2lustix WHT
    • tenperatenpera Member
      edited November 2016

      edit

    • LiteServerLiteServer Member, Provider

      @tenpera said:
      How many IPV4 and IPV6 per plan?

      1 IPv4 address and a /64 IPv6 subnet as shown in the offer :-)

      Thanked by 1tenpera

      LiteServer.nl - Since 2007 the place where quality meets you!
      NL located // AS60404 // OpenVZ + KVM + NVMe + SSD + SSD Cached VPSes // LEB plans starting at 128 MB

    • These guys are really good in many aspects. Network, uptime (never encountered a restart while I used), helpdesk and knowledge. Callum rocked. (:

      Though, I wish you had a better BF deal. Compared to some others, your offer doesn't shine much. :(

      Thanked by 1LiteServer

      ...
      ...

    • I got exactly what I needed from it, 200gb drive with good connection for 1,66€ a month. Happy enough with it.

      Thanked by 2LiteServer vimalware
    • AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Member, Provider

      Storage plans are OpenVZ only?

      AlphaVPS - OpenVZ and KVM, DDoS Protected VPS in London, UK | Sofia, BG | Nuremberg, DE | NYC, US and LA, US. Cheap Dedicated servers with fast delivery!

    • @AlexBarakov said:
      Storage plans are OpenVZ only?

      There are also KVM storage plans below.

      Thanked by 1LiteServer
    • LiteServerLiteServer Member, Provider

      @AlexBarakov said:
      Storage plans are OpenVZ only?

      KVM as well :-)

      Thanked by 1vimalware

      LiteServer.nl - Since 2007 the place where quality meets you!
      NL located // AS60404 // OpenVZ + KVM + NVMe + SSD + SSD Cached VPSes // LEB plans starting at 128 MB

    • @AlexBarakov said:
      Storage plans are OpenVZ only?

      There are two KVM storage plans at the bottom.

      Thanked by 1LiteServer
    • Nice offer

      Thanked by 1LiteServer
    • Nice deal!! So if we purchase with the promocode it remains valid on upgrades?

      Thanked by 1LiteServer
    • Couldn't resist, had to get another LiteServer... Quality and at an amazing price.

      Thanked by 2LiteServer sin

      Have an Allwinner H3 device? Android? Check out H3Droid! | Lichee Pi Zero - The 6$ SBC | #SYSarm - Get It! | Atomic Pi - $35 x86 SBC
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    • This is the best 'quality VPS' deal today for me.

      prepares my body.

      Thanked by 2sin LiteServer

      Down with the sic_K_ness...
      The doctor might be going K-razy with the low end spirit. 😉

    • NekkiNekki Moderator

      Tracking at 3rd position in the deals league table.

    • @Nekki said:
      Tracking at 3rd position in the deals league table.

      Where is that table?

      Thanked by 1MarcusVinicius

      Gapps legacy 100/200 users cheap 4 sale. PM

    • LiteServerLiteServer Member, Provider

      @sin said:
      Nice deal!! So if we purchase with the promocode it remains valid on upgrades?

      Exactly!

      Thanked by 2bersy vimalware

      LiteServer.nl - Since 2007 the place where quality meets you!
      NL located // AS60404 // OpenVZ + KVM + NVMe + SSD + SSD Cached VPSes // LEB plans starting at 128 MB

    • Nice offer! :)

      Thanked by 1LiteServer

      XetHost - https://xethost.com/ - VPS, Dedicated servers, SMTP services from Hungary - VPS - $3.59/m!

    • how much IPv6?

      Do you offer /64 ?

    • LiteServerLiteServer Member, Provider

      @add_iT said:
      how much IPv6?

      Do you offer /64 ?

      As shown in the offer we do include a /64 with each VPS :-)

      LiteServer.nl - Since 2007 the place where quality meets you!
      NL located // AS60404 // OpenVZ + KVM + NVMe + SSD + SSD Cached VPSes // LEB plans starting at 128 MB

    • can I buy it now and start using it in 3 months? I am still using my DO credits

    • Got one of the storage VPS's, it's pretty great so far!

      Thanked by 1LiteServer
    • I got 1 SSD and 2 Storage packages... by keeping the deal on upgrade, you made us very happy :) If all goes well in the next monts and you keep prices on a reasonable level, i'll definitelly bring you few customers.

      Thanked by 1LiteServer
    • I just purchased one of the Liteserver 1GB SSD KVM VPSes. It's fast as hell, I love it!

      Thanked by 1LiteServer
    • LiteServerLiteServer Member, Provider

      @sin said:
      I just purchased one of the Liteserver 1GB SSD KVM VPSes. It's fast as hell, I love it!

      Thanks for your feedback Sin! :-)
      The faster the better! :-)

      Thanked by 1sin

      LiteServer.nl - Since 2007 the place where quality meets you!
      NL located // AS60404 // OpenVZ + KVM + NVMe + SSD + SSD Cached VPSes // LEB plans starting at 128 MB

    • I am using one for almost 8 months now. They are perfect.

      Thanked by 2LiteServer vimalware
    • LiteServerLiteServer Member, Provider

      @mcipovic said:
      I am using one for almost 8 months now. They are perfect.

      Thank you for your awesome feedback! :-)
      Glad to hear that you're enjoying your LiteServer VPS!

      LiteServer.nl - Since 2007 the place where quality meets you!
      NL located // AS60404 // OpenVZ + KVM + NVMe + SSD + SSD Cached VPSes // LEB plans starting at 128 MB

    • @LiteServer said:

      @sin said:
      Nice deal!! So if we purchase with the promocode it remains valid on upgrades?

      Exactly!

      So cool!

      Could I start off on a monthly subscription and switch to yearly , after spinning up?

      (I don't know what billing system you use.)

      Down with the sic_K_ness...
      The doctor might be going K-razy with the low end spirit. 😉

    • LiteServerLiteServer Member, Provider

      @vimalware said:
      So cool!

      Could I start off on a monthly subscription and switch to yearly , after spinning up?

      (I don't know what billing system you use.)

      Of course you can! :-)
      Drop us a support ticket when you're ready to change the billing period.

      LiteServer.nl - Since 2007 the place where quality meets you!
      NL located // AS60404 // OpenVZ + KVM + NVMe + SSD + SSD Cached VPSes // LEB plans starting at 128 MB

    • YuraYura Member
      edited November 2016

      Looks good! Let's hope I will be so madly in love with your service that I will consider switching from storage to other plan or order even more in addition. Would those actions be an upgrade? (40℅)

    • LiteServerLiteServer Member, Provider

      @Yura said:
      Looks good! Let's hope I will be so madly in love with your service that I will consider switching from storage to other plan or order even more in addition. Would those actions be an upgrade? (40℅)

      You mean if the coupon is valid on upgrades as well? When you decide to upgrade the VPS to a larger plan, the coupon will remain valid. :-)

      Thanked by 1vimalware

      LiteServer.nl - Since 2007 the place where quality meets you!
      NL located // AS60404 // OpenVZ + KVM + NVMe + SSD + SSD Cached VPSes // LEB plans starting at 128 MB

    • YuraYura Member
      edited November 2016

      @LiteServer said:

      @Yura said:
      Looks good! Let's hope I will be so madly in love with your service that I will consider switching from storage to other plan or order even more in addition. Would those actions be an upgrade? (40℅)

      You mean if the coupon is valid on upgrades as well? When you decide to upgrade the VPS to a larger plan, the coupon will remain valid. :-)

      Yeah. I'm asking
      1) can I upgrade from vps storage to vps transfer (more expensive plan)?
      2)Also, can I add another vps (with 40℅ dicsount) to my vps storage plan during next year?

      What are conditions for these two upgrade paths. Thanks.

    • LiteServerLiteServer Member, Provider

      @Yura said:

      Yeah. I'm asking
      1) can I upgrade from vps storage to vps transfer (more expensive plan)?
      2)Also, can I add another vps (with 40℅ dicsount) to my vps storage plan during next year?

      What are conditions for these two upgrade paths. Thanks.

      1) Sure! This coupon applies to any plan upgrade, and remains valid as long this VPS remain active. So upgrading to a larger plan in a different VPS line won't be any problem.
      2) Coupon only applies to all VPSes that are being order before 28 Nov 23:59h CET. Orders placed after 28 Nov cannot use the coupon. This is just a limited special. If you would like to use the coupon on a second VPS, you'll have to order before the coupon expires :-).

      Thanked by 2Yura vimalware

      LiteServer.nl - Since 2007 the place where quality meets you!
      NL located // AS60404 // OpenVZ + KVM + NVMe + SSD + SSD Cached VPSes // LEB plans starting at 128 MB

    • can you give me speedtest result to server 797 (AS17451 BIZNET NETWORKS)

    • LiteServerLiteServer Member, Provider

      @shell said:
      can you give me speedtest result to server 797 (AS17451 BIZNET NETWORKS)

      ??? To server 797? :-)

      LiteServer.nl - Since 2007 the place where quality meets you!
      NL located // AS60404 // OpenVZ + KVM + NVMe + SSD + SSD Cached VPSes // LEB plans starting at 128 MB

    • LiteServer said:
      ??? To server 797? :-)

      i mean using speedtest cli with "--server 797" option from your vps

    • LiteServerLiteServer Member, Provider

      @shell said:
      i mean using speedtest cli with "--server 797" option from your vps

      Ah :-) Down below is the result. Ran multiple tests. Download is between 50-60Mbit/s, and the upload around 15 to 25Mbit/s

      Selecting best server based on ping...
      Hosted by Biznet Networks (Jakarta) [11359.21 km]: 205.646 ms
      Testing download speed................................................................................
      Download: 54.39 Mbit/s
      Testing upload speed....................................................................................................
      Upload: 17.37 Mbit/s
      

      LiteServer.nl - Since 2007 the place where quality meets you!
      NL located // AS60404 // OpenVZ + KVM + NVMe + SSD + SSD Cached VPSes // LEB plans starting at 128 MB

    • Got one 256 kvm-ssd to taste.

      Slightly surprised to see 2,4Ghz core.

      Makes sense in a way.

      Down with the sic_K_ness...
      The doctor might be going K-razy with the low end spirit. 😉

    • LiteServerLiteServer Member, Provider
      edited November 2016

      @vimalware said:
      Got one 256 kvm-ssd to taste.

      Slightly surprised to see 2,4Ghz core.

      Makes sense in a way.

      Already replied through a ticket, but for all other LET people;
      We have both Xeon E3 and Xeon E5 nodes in use. A KVM VPS that has 2,4Ghz cores is Xeon E5-2640v4 powered (newest generation E5), and the single thread performance is pretty close to that of an E3 CPU :-)
      We're happy to move VPSes over to a node with Xeon E3 CPU and higher clock speed - but with normale usage the different shouldn't be really noticed. The Xeon E5-2640v4 is a high end CPU.

      Thanked by 1vimalware

      LiteServer.nl - Since 2007 the place where quality meets you!
      NL located // AS60404 // OpenVZ + KVM + NVMe + SSD + SSD Cached VPSes // LEB plans starting at 128 MB

    • @LiteServer said:

      got one ovz 200gb :)

      Thanked by 1LiteServer
    • @LiteServer said:
      The Xeon E5-2640v4 is a high end CPU.

      Indeed. No slouch this one.

      Perfect for HTTPS reverse-proxy.

      Running openssl speed rsa

      OpenSSL 1.0.2g  1 Mar 2016
      built on: reproducible build, date unspecified
      options:bn(64,64) rc4(16x,int) des(idx,cisc,16,int) aes(partial) blowfish(idx) 
      compiler: cc -I. -I.. -I../include  -fPIC -DOPENSSL_PIC -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -m64 -DL_ENDIAN -g -O2 -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro -Wa,--noexecstack -Wall -DMD32_REG_T=int -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT5 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_GF2m -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DAES_ASM -DVPAES_ASM -DBSAES_ASM -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM -DGHASH_ASM -DECP_NISTZ256_ASM
                        sign    verify    sign/s verify/s
      rsa  512 bits 0.000064s 0.000004s  15592.9 224281.6
      rsa 1024 bits 0.000183s 0.000012s   5467.1  86441.6
      rsa 2048 bits 0.001270s 0.000038s    787.5  26442.0
      rsa 4096 bits 0.009089s 0.000139s    110.0   7175.5
      

      Comparing it to i5-3750S kimsufi. (proxmox OpenSSL 1.0.1t 3 May 2016)

                        sign    verify    sign/s verify/s
      rsa  512 bits 0.000047s 0.000004s  21054.0 270701.1
      rsa 1024 bits 0.000147s 0.000010s   6804.7  97613.8
      rsa 2048 bits 0.001132s 0.000034s    883.3  29676.3
      rsa 4096 bits 0.008554s 0.000125s    116.9   7974.0
      
      Thanked by 2LiteServer sin

      Down with the sic_K_ness...
      The doctor might be going K-razy with the low end spirit. 😉

    • I recently bought the 128MB/100GB one. I'm planning to run Ampache on it for personal use. Would that be possible with these resources? I can give up transcoding if necessary. Never used streaming software before, so I need a grip on things.

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