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netcup nice offer

Hey leb-ians,

found an interesting offer, maybe some of you could need it. Thats why netcup deserves my respect (greetings to @BlazingServers)

kvm

2 cores

6 GB ram

640 GB SAS hdd

snapshots, own isos, 3 months contract

8€/months

https://www.netcup.eu/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=1547

and here you can generate a 5€ coupon (only for new customers :D )

https://www.netcup-gutscheincode.de/

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  • It was an excellent, perfect offer.

  • nice offer

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  • Can someone please remind me if NetCup require ID verification?

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  • stasistasi Member
    edited October 2016

    @BeardyUnixGuy said:
    Can someone please remind me if NetCup require ID verification?

    wait let me check, but they need a sms verifcation for sure.

    couldnt find something in the tos (agb). maybe for foreigners they will apply an id verification I am not sure.

    for german citizens they ask for a sms verfication, as mentioned before.

  • rm_rm_ Member

    I wonder do they remove VAT for people outside of the EU? Should be 6.47 instead of 8 EUR then.

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  • must... resist... damn.

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  • I, at my turn, wonder do they mean 2 physical dedicated cores, or logical ones :)

  • "No additional fees are charged for traffic to and from your root server / vServer (VPS). On average, you will have 200 Mbit/s of bandwidth available, assuming that your root server / vServer (VPS) has a 1 Gbit/s network card. If your server uses up an average bandwidth of over 80 Mbit/s for more than 15 minutes, then the root server's / vServer's (VPS) network connection may be throttled back to avoid disadvantaging other customers. We can also offer you dedicated network cards with guaranteed bandwidth. Please contact our Support for details."

    they also want 2 euros extra if you want to do nested virtualization.

    Lu Lu Lu, I've got some apples. Lu Lu Lu you've got some too.

  • The €5 coupon doesn't take anything off, it's taking off the setup fee only and the setup fee is €0.

    Looks like you need to set a reminder to cancel early if you're not keeping it.

    If your contract is due to expire in 31 days and we have not heard from you by then, your contract will be extended by the specified contractual term or by 12 months, whichever is the shorter.

    🐴 $2/mo 512MB KVM - Unmetered bandwidth. $1.25 for 256GB Block Storage - from BuyVM (aff)

  • Butters said: they also want 2 euros extra if you want to do nested virtualization.

    where did you get that from? as I ordered a server for testing purposes back in april this wasn't an option (not even on request) and was the reason I didn't kept it.

    out of curiosity ordered the above offer... without knowing to what use. damn, I hate this place. ;-)

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  • ehabehab Member
    edited October 2016

    better not @Amitz see this offer.

    i almost ordered this until couldn't get cancellation policy read in last screen before order.

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  • Good provider with nice offers, I grabbed 6GB/2core/120GB SSD offer for €72/yr back in January.

  • hello @mehargags , long time no speak! tell us some benchmarks :) with server above if you still have?

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  • ehab said: better not @Amitz see this offer.

    I am sitting in front of the screen. Sweating. My hands are shaking. Bugs are crawling all over me. I... must... resist... The 80 Mbps/15min restriction helps a lot. However... Still sweating. ;)

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  • Netcup is Great though :) When I was with them everything went smooth. My ID was being verifiedm

  • We are sorry to inform you that we are not able to validate your personal data on
    an electronic way. This may depend on a non existent telephone directory entry,
    or your IP address does not fit with your postal address.

    If you are not living in Germany we have to demand on a payment in advance for the
    first invoice.

    Please place a payment in advance so that we can proceed with your order. Send the following amount of 18.97 Euro (including VAT) by standard bank transfer to the following bank account:
    A payment in advance by Paypal is not possible.

  • @Falzo said:
    where did you get that from? as I ordered a server for testing purposes back in april this wasn't an option (not even on request) and was the reason I didn't kept it.

    out of curiosity ordered the above offer... without knowing to what use. damn, I hate this place. ;-)

    Source: https://forum.netcup.de/netcup-intern/fragen-vor-dem-kauf/8184-nested-virtualization-in-root-vserver-g7-nun-moeglich/

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  • Amitz said: The 80 Mbps/15min restriction helps a lot

    Agree. Thanks @Butters for bringing that restriction to our attention.

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  • Do they offer additional IPs or /28 subnet and at what price?

  • @mtsbatalha said:
    We are sorry to inform you that we are not able to validate your personal data on
    an electronic way. This may depend on a non existent telephone directory entry,
    or your IP address does not fit with your postal address.

    If you are not living in Germany we have to demand on a payment in advance for the
    first invoice.

    Please place a payment in advance so that we can proceed with your order. Send the following amount of 18.97 Euro (including VAT) by standard bank transfer to the following bank account:
    A payment in advance by Paypal is not possible.

    It's a really shit.

  • I wonder if they're using a bunch of old 320gb SAS drives. That would be swell for iops.

    I thank the lowend-addiction gods for that 80mbit restriction.

    hugs my online.net c2750 ssd limited

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  • thx, worth mentioning that it is said there nested virt will cost 2€ per month and core, so if you go for a 4 core server this will result in 8€ more.. not that interesting as you would also need to pay for additional IPs and such. for this price its easier to book another server (probably intended).

    back to topic, geekbench for the actual special offer:

    http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/8086227

    dd results differ a lot, seen numbers between 250MB/s and nearly 1GB/s but that may heavily depend on underlying caching and hardware raid...

    # dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=64k conv=fdatasync
    4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 7.0341 s, 611 MB/s
    
    # ioping -c 10 .
    --- . (ext4 /dev/sda3) ioping statistics ---
    10 requests completed in 9.01 s, 2.69 k iops, 10.5 MiB/s
    min/avg/max/mdev = 155 us / 372 us / 753 us / 153 us
    

    probably going to run the bench script of @K4Y5 twice now which may pull around 7GB each turn and also may take some time to check on that BW limitation thing (80Mbps/15min roughly equals 9GB if I am not mistaken ;-))

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  • @mtsbatalha said:

    maybe transferwise is an option for this? https://transferwise.com

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  • nfnnfn Member

    They are good. I'm using them for 6 months now and they have very solid servers.
    You can see my first impressions here: https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/82223/netcup-eu-first-impressions-for-root-server-m-ssd-iv6

    Just had a minor network problem for some minutes a month ago for all this time.

    The first payment must be made by bank transfer, the next ones can be made using paypal. They didn't ask for any id.

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  • K4Y5K4Y5 Member
    edited October 2016

    @Falzo said:

    thx, worth mentioning that it is said there nested virt will cost 2€ per month and core, so if you go for a 4 core server this will result in 8€ more.. not that interesting as you would also need to pay for additional IPs and such. for this price its easier to book another server (probably intended).

    back to topic, geekbench for the actual special offer:

    http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/8086227

    dd results differ a lot, seen numbers between 250MB/s and nearly 1GB/s but that may heavily depend on underlying caching and hardware raid...

    # dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=64k conv=fdatasync
    > 4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 7.0341 s, 611 MB/s
    > 
    > # ioping -c 10 .
    > --- . (ext4 /dev/sda3) ioping statistics ---
    > 10 requests completed in 9.01 s, 2.69 k iops, 10.5 MiB/s
    > min/avg/max/mdev = 155 us / 372 us / 753 us / 153 us
    > 

    probably going to run the bench script of @K4Y5 twice now which may pull around 7GB each turn and also may take some time to check on that BW limitation thing (80Mbps/15min roughly equals 9GB if I am not mistaken ;-))

    Netcup, hah!

    I tried buying a VPS to test it out a couple of months back. Turns out, I wasn't from Germany, so they wanted me to pay in advance, that too via bank transfer.

    So, I politely asked them to fuck off, and took my business to Virtwire**

    As for that ServerBench test, I am thinking about enhancing it a bit, and providing an option so that people can test speeds based on specific geographical locations. Hopefully, that should save people some bandwidth and provide results they're actually interested in.

    I, personally, was interested in getting a good idea about global connectivity of the servers that I use. Hence, the bloated list of test files totaling a cool 7 GBs (the LET standard!) :P

    ** No, not really. I just blew that money on a few SP-64 boxes that @Falzo told us about.

  • mehargagsmehargags Member
    edited October 2016

    @ehab,
    Yes this is a production server for me.

    Processor       : Westmere E56xx/L56xx/X56xx (Nehalem-C)
    CPU Cores       : 2
    Frequency       : 2493.750 MHz
    Memory          : 5983 MB
    Swap            : 2049 MB
    OS              : Debian GNU/Linux 8
    
    
    Atlanta, GA, US         Coloat          4.68MB/s
    Dallas, TX, US          Softlayer       6.07MB/s
    Seattle, WA, US         Softlayer       7.31MB/s
    San Jose, CA, US        Softlayer       6.26MB/s
    Washington, DC, US      Softlayer       14.3MB/s
    
    Tokyo, Japan            Linode          8.27MB/s
    Singapore               Softlayer       8.05MB/s
    
    Rotterdam, Netherlands  id3.net         52.4MB/s
    Haarlem, Netherlands    Leaseweb        3.91MB/s
    
    
    Disk Speed
    ----------
    I/O (1st run)   : 429 MB/s
    I/O (2nd run)   : 398 MB/s
    I/O (3rd run)   : 563 MB/s
    Average I/O     : 463.333 MB/s
    
    
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  • nfnnfn Member
    edited October 2016

    Falzo said: geekbench for the actual special offer:

    http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/8086227

    Looks like the same hardware from April, but with some differences:

    April: Intel Xeon E5-2670 v3 @ 2.30 GHz 1 processor, 2 threads
    Single Core Score: 2695
    Multi Core Score: 5050

    October: Intel Xeon E5-2670 v3 @ 2.30 GHz 2 processors
    Single Core Score: 2317
    Multi Core Score: 4435

    I'm curious about the new specs: E5-2680 v4 @ 2.40GHz :)

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  • @nfn said:

    Looks like the same hardware from April, but with some differences:

    April: Intel Xeon E5-2670 v3 @ 2.30 GHz 1 processor, 2 threads
    Single Core Score: 2695
    Multi Core Score: 5050

    October: Intel Xeon E5-2670 v3 @ 2.30 GHz 2 processors
    Single Core Score: 2317
    Multi Core Score: 4435

    I'm curious about the new specs: E5-2680 v4 @ 2.40GHz :)

    can't recall exactly and being just to lazy to look it up in the old thread ;-)
    thought I had tested the 4 vcore version with 12 GB back then, but may be wrong.

    by now I pulled some backup files of around 80 GB at steady 250 Mbps onto this box. so far no limitation at all. going to push them onto another box to see if it depends on traffic direction. or maybe it is simply a 'maybe' term on traffic usage which is a.) not defined in their tos b.) worded some time back and simply not changed to more fitting rules c.) there to easily get rid of abusers/torrenters/whatever causes much enduring traffic consumption.

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  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited October 2016

    Listen, @Falzo... This 80 Mbps/15min. restriction is that thin piece of paper between my brain keeping control and my passion going crazy. Don't take it away by finding out that it's just a "maybe clause". Please. With sugar on top. Pleeeeeaaaase... ;)

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  • they even throttled freifunk (mesh) networks in germany.

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  • @Amitz said:

    sorry... but...

    # bash serverbench.sh
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    CPU model            : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 v3 @ 2.30GHz
    Number of cores      : 2
    CPU frequency        : 2297.338 MHz
    Total amount of ram  : 5985 MB
    Total amount of swap : 3899 MB
    System uptime        : 0days, 6:15:17
    Load average         : 0.37, 0.80, 1.01
    OS                   : Debian GNU/Linux 8
    Arch                 : x86_64 (64 Bit)
    Kernel               : 3.16.0-4-amd64
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Node Name                       IPv4 address            Download Speed
    CacheFly                        205.234.175.175         88.7MB/s
    Softlayer, Milan, IT            159.122.128.84          30.2MB/s
    Prometeus, Milan, IT            37.247.53.10            50.5MB/s
    Tele2, Riga, LV         90.130.74.113           23.5MB/s
    Tele2, Vilnius, LT              90.130.74.117           19.1MB/s
    Server.LU, Luxembourg, LU       94.242.192.2            56.9MB/s
    Tele2, Frankfurt, DE            90.130.74.155           52.0MB/s
    Vultr, Frankfurt, DE            108.61.210.117          77.9MB/s
    Linode, Frankfurt, DE           139.162.130.8           12.5MB/s
    Softlayer, Frankfurt, DE        159.122.69.4            96.9MB/s
    Leaseweb, Frankfurt, DE         37.58.58.140            80.8MB/s
    DO, Frankfurt, DE               46.101.236.127          74.3MB/s
    Vultr, Paris, FR                108.61.209.127          44.7MB/s
    OVH, Gravelines, FR             5.196.90.200            22.6MB/s
    OVH, Strasbourg, FR             5.135.128.81            36.8MB/s
    OVH, Roubaix, FR                188.165.12.106          47.7MB/s
    Online.Net, Paris, FR           62.210.18.40            45.5MB/s
    Tele2, Amsterdam, NL            90.130.74.153           34.0MB/s
    Vultr, Amsterdam, NL            108.61.198.102          48.6MB/s
    DO 2, Amsterdam, NL             178.62.180.186          74.3MB/s
    DO 3, Amsterdam, NL             188.166.111.128         91.7MB/s
    Leaseweb, Amsterdam, NL         5.79.108.33             39.7MB/s
    i3d, Amsterdam, NL              213.163.76.200          21.0MB/s
    Vultr, London, UK               108.61.196.101          52.6MB/s
    DO, London, UK          138.68.141.25           32.5MB/s
    Linode, London, UK              176.58.107.39           37.2MB/s
    Softlayer, London, UK           5.10.97.132             68.1MB/s
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    I/O speed(1st run) : 106 MB/s
    I/O speed(2nd run) : 559 MB/s
    I/O speed(3rd run) : 630 MB/s
    Average I/O speed  : 431.667 MB/s
    
    [email protected]:~# iperf -c iperf.ovh.net
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Client connecting to iperf.ovh.net, TCP port 5001
    TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    [  3] local 37.120.177.49 port 38695 connected with 188.165.12.136 port 5001
    [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
    [  3]  0.0-10.0 sec  1.03 GBytes   886 Mbits/sec
    [email protected]:~# iperf -c iperf.ovh.net -d
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Server listening on TCP port 5001
    TCP window size: 85.3 KByte (default)
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Client connecting to iperf.ovh.net, TCP port 5001
    TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    [  5] local 37.120.177.49 port 38696 connected with 188.165.12.136 port 5001
    [  4] local 37.120.177.49 port 5001 connected with 188.165.12.136 port 54102
    [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
    [  5]  0.0-10.0 sec   933 MBytes   782 Mbits/sec
    [  4]  0.0-10.2 sec   200 MBytes   165 Mbits/sec
    

    this is the result after pushing and pulling around 100 GB from one server to another and parking them on netcup in between and so on... I wouldn't really speak of any hard limit so far. I only did transfer via ssh/scp anyways...

    the only thing I noticed were upload speeds breaking down to around 100Mbps for single large files at some point after the first 500 MB... may be cache related, but I pushed to OVH and hetzner (also tried to pull from there) and saw this behaviour each time for connections outgoing from netcup.

    while incoming speeds to netcup had been steady (and higher than 100 Mbps) I'd guess they may have some automatic limiting in place, probably connection / stream-size based or something like that. maybe I also have to try to rsync some GB to see what happens to smaller files...

    don't want to punch a hole in thin paper but after all I can see no instant hard limit happening for now ;-) ;-)

    maybe they'll contact me later or issue a warning or do nothing at all. it's the first hours I work with the server, maybe they have a grace period or something like this. so many options, who knows ^^

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  • ehabehab Member
    edited October 2016

    this is Amitz now

    stay strong, why you need it anyway ...

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  • @Amitz said:
    I have everything under control. I have everything under control.

    didn't you say you gave up on consolidating? so no more dedis, but keep on using VMs from different providers (eggs/basket)? seems to be an affordable egg ...

    if at least I had the slightest idea now what to use this box for :/

    this is how it most probably will turn out: played with it, didn't achieve to break it entirely, eventually lost interest, for sure forget to cancel in about two months...

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  • Falzo said: didn't you say you gave up on consolidating? so no more dedis, but keep on using VMs from different providers (eggs/basket)? seems to be an affordable egg ...

    Oh, stop it already! ;)

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  • hzrhzr Member, Moderator

    love this but my bank charges $50 per intl bank transfer.. and a currency exchange fee.. and a foreign transaction fee.. per payment..

    and their online banking is currently down..

  • chxchx Member

    Use https://transferwise.com/ or if I might use my personal invite link https://transferwise.com/u/8607a for bank transfers. Much cheaper and easy to use.

  • @hzr said:
    love this but my bank charges $50 per intl bank transfer.. and a currency exchange fee.. and a foreign transaction fee.. per payment..

    and their online banking is currently down..

    Time for a new bank my friend.

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  • hzrhzr Member, Moderator

    TheOnlyDK said: Time for a new bank my friend.

    My other one doesn't support intl transfers at all :(

  • RadiRadi Member, Provider

    https://www.netcup.eu/bestellen/widerrufsbelehrung.html

    Read the cancellation policy, before you proceed. :)

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  • @hzr said:

    TheOnlyDK said: Time for a new bank my friend.

    My other one doesn't support intl transfers at all :(

    where are you from?

  • @Radi said:
    https://www.netcup.eu/bestellen/widerrufsbelehrung.html

    Read the cancellation policy, before you proceed. :)

    So?

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  • RadiRadi Member, Provider

    @tr1cky I understood it that it needs to be sent by postal mail to their address?

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  • ZweiTigerZweiTiger Member, Provider

    @Radi said:
    @tr1cky I understood it that it needs to be sent by postal mail to their address?

    Email is enought

  • @Radi said:
    @tr1cky I understood it that it needs to be sent by postal mail to their address?

    Cancellations must be made in writing (e.g. letter, fax or email).

  • @Radi said:
    @tr1cky I understood it that it needs to be sent by postal mail to their address?

    Germany since 1st of October has new laws for this. An email is enough in any case now. If any provider in Germany does not allow cancelation by email they are acting against German law.

    Couldn't find an English article for it, but here's a German article regarding this: http://t3n.de/news/vertraege-e-mail-kuendigen-751760/

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  • the part posted is not the normal cancellation policy but the right of withdrawal policy.

    In europe as a customer (not b2b though) you are granted to withdraw from contracts made online for a period of at least 14 days. and providers or shops are forced by law to send you this policy for taking notice.

    from their terms and conditions:

    Such contracts can be terminated by either party on giving one month's notice to the end of a month, but no earlier than the expiry of the agreed minimum contractual term.

    so you need to cancel, no automatic expiry...

    you need to do this at least on the last day of a month to cancel at the end of the following month. make iot 31 or 32 days in advance just to be sure...

    also be advised, that this offer comes with a quarterly contract and payment term, which most probably means, if you don't cancel 31 days in advance to the end of the billing period you're going to be charged another quarterly term!

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  • hzrhzr Member, Moderator

    stasi said: where are you from?

    in the states rn; where you get charged hilarious fees to even receive one and multiple 'foreign transaction fees' because america

  • anyone PM me IP for tracert? Thanks

  • So was virtualization not possible with netcup before? My ovz instances on my kvm vps with them were running Just fine about a year vack. Or does virtualization indicates the use of kvm/xen instances and No ovz?

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