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Looking for APNIC, RIPE and ARIN

Kostas24Kostas24 Member
edited August 2016 in Requests

Hi guys,
I'm looking to lease big amounts (up to 16k) of APNIC, RIPE and ARIN IPv4 adresses by full /24 or larger subnets with or without dedicated servers (we can announce the IPs under our AS if you'd prefer that).
Most preffered locations are:

Japan,
South Korea,
The Netherlands,
Australia,
Germany,
Canada,
USA.

Our offer depends on the region and the amount of IP adresses you can offer. Feel free to contact me via PM.

As for the use of IPs: data collection and web scraping, no mailing - port 25 might be blocked.

Comments

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    What kind of servers do you need? What are the IPs for?

  • Unless you write your intended use, your company name and much more details, most people will see this request as extremely shady - i.e. most likely used for spam or other shady activities. So you won't get much offers from legitimate hosts.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    rds100 said: i.e. most likely used for spam

    Exactly!

    @Kostas24, if you don't plan on using it for E-Mail at all, then how about blocking port 25?

  • @Kostas24 said:
    Hi guys,
    I'm looking to lease APNIC, RIPE and ARIN IPv4 adresses by full /24 (or larger) subnets along with dediservers.
    Most preffered locations are:

    Japan,
    South Korea,
    The Netherlands,
    Australia,
    Germany,
    Canada,
    USA.

    Our offer depends on the region and the amount of IP adresses you can offer. Feel free to contact me via PM.

    Would you consider Singapore? we could supply /24 with IP justification.

  • Updated the first post to answer your concerns.

  • @Kostas24 said:
    As for the use of IPs: data collection and web scraping, no mailing - port 25 might be blocked.

    As for web scraping, does your scraper obey robots.txt rules?

  • @theroyalstudent said:

    @Kostas24 said:
    As for the use of IPs: data collection and web scraping, no mailing - port 25 might be blocked.

    As for web scraping, does your scraper obey robots.txt rules?

    As we have thousands of clients, there is no guarantee.

  • @Kostas24 said:

    @theroyalstudent said:

    @Kostas24 said:
    As for the use of IPs: data collection and web scraping, no mailing - port 25 might be blocked.

    As for web scraping, does your scraper obey robots.txt rules?

    As we have thousands of clients, there is no guarantee.

    Providers here will have to make the verdict, provided this already. I'm just asking as this is a valid concern for some providers.

    Good luck with getting your server with the /24, though.

    Thanked by 1Kostas24
  • theroyalstudent said: Providers here will have to make the verdict, provided this already. I'm just asking as this is a valid concern for some providers.

    Ignoring robots.txt is not illegal except in a few absolutely idiotic countries. Scraping data - also by circumvention of their blocks - is not illegal either. If they want to not get scraped they should get login-only, else can piss off.

    Kostas24 said: Japan, South Korea, The Netherlands, Australia,

    Germany, Canada, USA.

    You cannot run BGP in South Korea and no one will announce you IPs, you need to use KRNIC to get assignments local or one of a larger local ISP (which will not give you a /24 lol, as non Korean).

    Will you announce the IPs in the correct region or should the seller expect angry letters? If your traffic usage is low why are you not using Afrinic or Lacnic which both are cheaper and easier?

    Thanked by 1Zen
  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2016

    William said: You cannot run BGP in South Korea

    Is that true? Wow.. Must be hard to run hosting biz in SK then. Why not allowed?

    Also, I think the OP requested dedis along with the IPs.

    edit:

    Kostas24 said: with or without dedicated servers (we can announce the IPs under our AS if you'd prefer that).

    With or without apparently.

  • randvegeta said: Is that true? Wow.. Must be hard to run hosting biz in SK then. Why not allowed?

    The government maintains tight control of all networks (officially for North Korean propaganda and network security reasons, but also censors porn and require mostly real name online), you can get BGP as local company (because they have someone to arrest) or with a partner (they will arrest them then). The intention is to be able to trace every user at any time.

    It's not too far from China in that regard, yea you can get BGP from all 3 and the university backbone, but it's not easy.

    Thanked by 1Zen
  • @William said:

    theroyalstudent said: Providers here will have to make the verdict, provided this already. I'm just asking as this is a valid concern for some providers.

    Ignoring robots.txt is not illegal except in a few absolutely idiotic countries. Scraping data - also by circumvention of their blocks - is not illegal either. If they want to not get scraped they should get login-only, else can piss off.

    Kostas24 said: Japan, South Korea, The Netherlands, Australia,

    Germany, Canada, USA.

    You cannot run BGP in South Korea and no one will announce you IPs, you need to use KRNIC to get assignments local or one of a larger local ISP (which will not give you a /24 lol, as non Korean).

    Will you announce the IPs in the correct region or should the seller expect angry letters? If your traffic usage is low why are you not using Afrinic or Lacnic which both are cheaper and easier?

    We are using Afrinic and Lacnic as well as all the other regions. Why wouldn't we announce the IPs in the correct region?

  • MadMad Member

    @William said:
    You cannot run BGP in South Korea

    If I remember well it should be the same for Mainland China, reason for which the IPs are heavily expensive there.

  • @andreamada said:
    If I remember well it should be the same for Mainland China, reason for which the IPs are heavily expensive there.

    True. Due to the existence of NIRs.

  • andreamada said: If I remember well it should be the same for Mainland China, reason for which the IPs are heavily expensive there.

    You can get BGP in China, you just need more licensing than already as ISP and the rules seem to vary extremely region wise. Generally similar though, high entry.

    eg. http://bgp.he.net/AS17962#_asinfo (they are fairly large in Shenzhen)

  • Kostas24 said: We are using Afrinic and Lacnic as well as all the other regions. Why wouldn't we announce the IPs in the correct region?

    Because your usage is traffic intensive and BW is not cheap in Afrinic and Lacnic.

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