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    A newsletter is coming!

    Over the next week we will be sending out our first newsletter to the LowEndTalk community. This newsletter will contain some teasers about the upcoming thanksgiving weekend sales. We plan to do this regularly (though with different content, of course), but if you don't want us to keep you updated there's an unsubscribe link in every newsletter.

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    • Don't tell me it's full of CC offers ;)

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    • gsrdgrdghdgsrdgrdghd Member
      edited November 2015

      I hope you use something different than CC for mail delivery ;)

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    • @PetaByet said:
      Don't tell me it's full of CC offers ;)

      Ok, I won't tell you that.

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    • That's good. Can't find any viagra offers on amazon.

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    • AmitzAmitz Member
      edited November 2015

      Notifications for follow-ups on Lowendbox!
      A Newsletter via eMail!
      I am drowning in joy! Exactly what I was missing the most! Thank you, early Santa! ;-)

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    • jhjh Member

      Can I pre-unsubscribe?

      Greetings of the day!!!!

    • jh said: Can I pre-unsubscribe?

      Stop pushing to the front, Bitch!!!1!!

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    • @jh said:
      Can I pre-unsubscribe?

      No need. Apple already blocked all LET emails for some unknown reason and refuse to unblock them.

      Different.

    • So... We're just going to get the same spam that we already do from BlueVM, ChicagoVPS, Vortex Servers and a multitude of other "services"? ;-)

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    • @0xdragon said:
      So... We're just going to get the same spam that we already do from BlueVM, ChicagoVPS, Vortex Servers and a multitude of other "services"? ;-)

      Don't forget "weloveservers" ..

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    • @jh said:
      Can I pre-unsubscribe?

      No.

      @0xdragon said:
      So... We're just going to get the same spam that we already do from BlueVM, ChicagoVPS, Vortex Servers and a multitude of other "services"? ;-)

      Yes.

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    • Interesting actually cant wait to read it.

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    • IgniteServers said: Interesting actually cant wait to read it.

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    • 0xdragon0xdragon Member
      edited November 2015

      .

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    • so my email address is being sold to cc's companies !?

    • namhuy said: so my email address is being sold to cc's companies !?

      Naaah, this is the best legal way for paying advertisers to promote products to subscribing LET members. When there's an empty spot, then CC companies will fill the gap.

      When we sign up as a member we expect to have new formal infos, this is the best way to get it as long as there is a balance of public - members - companies.

      This way the advertising fee will be increased significantly.

      Dang! I think I should apply for a job to @mpkossen :P

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    • jarjar Provider

      I for one am pretty excited about it. I really think LE* needs to be more active in reaching out and engaging people. It is, after all, sort of a business in itself.

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    • @jarland I agree. LE* has grown in to a semi social business.

      To be honest, look at how many people here trying to make a living, enhancing their business, or simply want to have information such as tutorials, trips & tricks, learning from other members' experience.

      LE* just have to be managed more professionally while keeping the balance between social media role and business entity role. Having said that, it is necessary for LE* to generate more income to cover the managing cost and new hires.

      The Newsletter IMHO is the connecting media between ever growing business side with social side. A newsletter also could become a catalyst among members and it should become one of LE* selling/promoting point.

      Jar, I might sound like a buttlicker, but hey, that's the way it is to keep LE* growing.

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    • gsrdgrdghdgsrdgrdghd Member
      edited November 2015

      mpkossen said: @jh said: Can I pre-unsubscribe?

      No.

      Can someone check if it is complaint with the CAN-SPAM act to send a newsletter to people who didn't opt-in and don't have the chance to opt-out (beforehand)?

      Would it be a CAN-SPAM compliant opt-out if I just posted in this thread that I opt out?

    • @gsrdgrdghd said:
      Would it be a CAN-SPAM compliant opt-out if I just posted in this thread that I opt out?

      I doubt it.

      AFAIK we're free to send our members a newsletter as long as we adhere to the rules set out by the CAN-SPAM act. There will be an option to unsubscribe in the first newsletter which enables you to opt out of any further e-mail newsletters.

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    • @mpkossen said:
      AFAIK we're free to send our members a newsletter as long as we adhere to the rules set out by the CAN-SPAM act. There will be an option to unsubscribe in the first newsletter which enables you to opt out of any further e-mail newsletters.

      This would be true as long as long as we agreed to a newsletter upon signup- unfortunately this is not the case, and there is no box to tick (unlike other online communities), and the terms of service has no provision for it.

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    • @0xdragon said:
      This would be true as long as long as we agreed to a newsletter upon signup- unfortunately this is not the case, and there is no box to tick (unlike other online communities), and the terms of service has no provision for it.

      Don't take this the wrong way, but we're not going to take legal advice on USA law from an Australian kid that was involved in at least two failed businesses that have cost our members money.

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    • @mpkossen said:
      Don't take this the wrong way, but we're not going to take legal advice on USA law from an Australian kid that was involved in at least two failed businesses that have cost our members money.

      Two? And fuck you, I'll take it the wrong way :) You're mad because you're wrong.

      Just introduce a button on the profile/settings page to allow people to unsubscribe.

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    • @0xdragon said:
      Just introduce a button on the profile/settings page to allow people to unsubscribe.

      Whoops, hit a nerve there.

      And no. The powers will probably not invest resources into that.

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    • @mpkossen said:
      And no. The powers will probably not invest resources into that.

      But seriously, is this a nice way of saying our email addresses are being sold to CC? :)

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    • LET's whois was visible sometime ago, so they switched to godaddy's domain privacy. I believe it clearly belonged to colocrossing. So that shouldn't surprising.

      Just everybody change your addresses to something you'll never use.

      Solves the drama.

      0xdragon said: But seriously, is this a nice way of saying our email addresses are being sold to CC? :)

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    • @mpkossen said:
      And no. The powers will probably not invest resources into that.

      I would just make sure you guys are covered before you send your first newsletter. From what I've heard not complying to the CAN-SPAM act is costly...

    • If this is mailed from a CC range, it probably wont reach my inbox. If it's mailed from anywhere else, it will definitely result in an abuse report.

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    • @kcaj said:
      If this is mailed from a CC range, it probably wont reach my inbox. If it's mailed from anywhere else, it will definitely result in an abuse report.

      If that's what you want to waste your time on, be my guest! Clicking unsubscribe is a lot faster, though.

      @0xdragon said:
      But seriously, is this a nice way of saying our email addresses are being sold to CC? :)

      In case you haven't noticed, they have owned this website (including all the e-mail addresses) for a while.

      In all seriousness: I now know we're going to send this using MailChimp. If anybody knows of standard functionality that lets you pre-unsubscribe, feel free to let me know!

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    • There you go:
      http://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/find-the-unsubscribe-link-for-your-list
      (You can even include a link to unsubscribe here, on the website)

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    • @Amitz said:
      There you go:
      http://kb.mailchimp.com/lists/signup-forms/find-the-unsubscribe-link-for-your-list
      (You can even include a link to unsubscribe here, on the website)

      Thanks! Once Jon has imported the list (which will be Monday) we'll make sure to provide such a link to users here to they can pre-unsubscribe.

      I do feel kind of sad for @kcaj. Now he needs to find something else to do :-(

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    • You're welcome - I guess this is the best way to take care of all different interests.

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    • All set. Once the list has been imported you should be able to remove yourself here: http://chicagovps.us10.list-manage1.com/unsubscribe?u=53e5f9d21088f8e724f1cfe4a&id=f84e3dd1dc.

      I'll add the link more prominently once the list has been imported.

      Yes, it says ChicagoVPS in the link. We're using that MailChimp account. It's now in the name of ColoCrossing but apparently the link doesn't change.

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    • @mpkossen said:
      I do feel kind of sad for kcaj. Now he needs to find something else to do :-(

      I haven't asked you to email me any junk, nor am I expecting to have to opt out for something I haven't opted in for. So the same applies, if I recieve your junk-letter, MailChimp will recieve an abuse complaint.

      It will take me 30 seconds, if that. I do it several times a day, it's really no bother.

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    • I don't want a spam newsletter that I didn't request either.

      So, the addresses in this feed will now by blocked:
      http://mailchimp.com/about/ips/feed.xml

      I suggest others do the same, where they can. I consider anything that comes from MailChimp to be spam.

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    • @xmob said:
      I don't want a spam newsletter that I didn't request either.

      So, the addresses in this feed will now by blocked:
      http://mailchimp.com/about/ips/feed.xml

      I suggest others do the same, where they can. I consider anything that comes from MailChimp to be spam.

      Anything from mailchimp? They have pretty a proactive anti-spam team, at least in my experience.

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    • kcaj said: I haven't asked you to email me any junk

      I love it how you classify something as junk without even having seen it yet :-)

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    • If it's unsolicited, it's junk.

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    • jhjh Member
      edited November 2015

      mpkossen said: I love it how you classify something as junk without even having seen it yet :-)

      15 years ago spam was about Viagra and Nigerian princes. Today, everyone wants you on their mailing list. It builds up and it's annoying and a waste of time. For me, LET is fun to waste a few minutes on but I couldn't give two hoots what's happened here in the last week or month. A mark of a good brand in my opinion, is sending very few marketing emails - because your product/service doesn't need to be rammed down people's throats. I think in LET's case it probably is illegal too, but that's not going to change anything here other than degrading LET to the same level as some of the companies that advertise here.

      I think @xmob is right that Mailchimp in general, although in general it's legit, is the source of a lot of this timewasting stuff we all get and would be worth blocking as a whole.

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    • jh said: A mark of a good brand in my opinion, is sending very few marketing emails

      I do not know how often ColoCrossing wants to send these newsletters, but I doubt they would want to make it a weekly thing. Especially if they want me to write the content, since I simply don't have time for that.

      From my personal point of view I agree with you. If I were just a member here I'd probably unsubscribe as well. I prefer to pull information rather than having it pushed. I usually do that after having seen a newsletter, though, not beforehand.

      From a commercial point of view it does make sense to send this newsletter. It goes to a large number of people that we could get to LowEndBox that are probably not visiting it now. The ones that don't want to get the newsletter will unsubscribe and not be bothered with it anymore.

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    • @xmob said:
      If it's unsolicited, it's junk.

      Like your comment?

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    • NekkiNekki Member
      edited November 2015

      Joyless the cunts, the lot of you.

      1 fucking email and you're all going fucking nuts. I hate you all.

    • Couldn't agree more. The email will be about LE*, and it's one click from not receiving it ever again. If you really hate this place so much what are you still doing here? Go out, have some fun.

    • vedran said: If you really hate this place so much what are you still doing here? Go out, have some fun.

      That's the point.

      Don't eat and shit on the same spot, and never eat while you are shitting.

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    • According to this no opt-in is necessary, the opt-out just has to work.

    • cociucociu Member, Provider

      guys , what happened ? what crime is ? is only the first time, if you dont want to recive more is just a click to unsuscribe. Good ideea @mpkossen , a forum/page/css must have sometime newslleters. Who dont like just unsuscribe.

    • blackblack Member
      edited November 2015

      It'd be cool if you include some projects which are made by community members that are useful / relevant to clients and providers in the hosting business.

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    • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

      @cociu said:
      guys , what happened ? what crime is ? is only the first time, if you dont want to recive more is just a click to unsuscribe. Good ideea mpkossen , a forum/page/css must have sometime newslleters. Who dont like just unsuscribe.

      I think the issue is that many people have had to deal with the CVPS/BlueVM/123S/etc unsubscribe issues where it took a dozen+ times to do it, and then when @jbiloh did it personally, the emails returned back into the subscriber lists not a few emails later.

      As for email privacy, I would hope it isn't the advertisers sending direct emails and instead the admins are using the 'mass email' feature Vanilla hopefully has to send it on behalf of them.

      @black said:
      It'd be cool if you include some projects which are made by community members that are useful / relevant to clients and providers in the hosting business.

      That would be pretty cool :) It'd be a good way to get support behind some open source product lines.

      Francisco

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    • jbilohjbiloh Administrator

      The goal is to make the emails a positive, engaging message and any removal requests will be quickly acted on.

      A lot of positive stuff is happening at leb and let and the newsletters are intended to spread awareness and act as a messaging tool for high traffic days like black Friday, cyber Monday, etc.

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