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looking for provider that doesnt respond to abuse reports

edited May 4 in Requests

hello, i run an imageboard (style of website similar to 4chan)

the content on my website may be disturbing, but i have a strict policy of NO CP
for example, there is gore, loli hentai, and possible dmca content
my goal is for the users to have as little rules as possible.

i am looking for a vps under $5 (preferably under $4) with the following specs:

VZ Type: whatever is the cheapest/most available

Number of Cores: 1 (hopefully 2)
RAM: 1.5gb+
Disk Space: 50gb (preferably 100gb)
Disk Type: any

Bandwidth: 1tb bare minimum
Port Speed: at least 100mbps

DDoS Protection: yes

Number of IPs: 1 ipv4, no ipv6 needed

Location: no requirement

Billing period: monthly needed

Comments

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    So, if the host doesn't response to abuse reports and their local police raids the host,

    will you pay for the damage?

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    "Jarland is stupid."

  • @deank said:
    So, if the host doesn't response to abuse reports and their local police raids the host,

    will you pay for the damage?

    what i mean is that im not hosting anything super bad
    but many hosts do not allow porn let alone gore and other things like i said in my post

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Does not matter.

    Will you pay for the damage you may cause your host by asking them to completely ignore abuse reports?

    There have been some hosts here that got raided recently. So, it is a real possibility as well as a responsibility for someone to pay.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • i am asking for a host that already has that sort of policy
    i am not try to "convert" any host to do something different, i am just looking for a host like i asked in my post.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    What you are saying does not correspond to what the thread title says.

    I guess that says all.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • HostSlickHostSlick Member, Provider
    edited May 4

    All this for $5?

    Me right now: Alt+F4

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • what? i said i am looking for a provider that does not respond to abuse reports. im not telling all providers to stop, i am just saying that i am looking for those that do not respond to these sorts of of reports.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    You are looking for a host that does not response to abuse reports. That is the thread title.

    You - are - telling providers to stop.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • i am looking for those that have that sort of policy. i am not encouraging anyone to change their behavior, i am just looking for those who dont usually respond

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    And I assume you aren't willing to pay for damage if your host gets raided or something.

    That's all they need to know.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • angstromangstrom Member

    @funy_arabian52 said: what? i said i am looking for a provider that does not respond to abuse reports.

    You're going to need to pay much more than $5 for this.

    "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

  • @angstrom said:

    @funy_arabian52 said: what? i said i am looking for a provider that does not respond to abuse reports.

    You're going to need to pay much more than $5 for this.

    how much do you think?

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Nah, 5 bucks is enough if he signs a clause that he will pay for the damage.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • angstromangstrom Member

    @funy_arabian52 said:

    @angstrom said:

    @funy_arabian52 said: what? i said i am looking for a provider that does not respond to abuse reports.

    You're going to need to pay much more than $5 for this.

    how much do you think?

    I'm not the right person to ask about this, but the extra risk factor involved wouldn't make it worthwhile for $5. ($5 is for the case where abuse isn't tolerated.)

    "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

  • @angstrom said:

    @funy_arabian52 said:

    @angstrom said:

    @funy_arabian52 said: what? i said i am looking for a provider that does not respond to abuse reports.

    You're going to need to pay much more than $5 for this.

    how much do you think?

    I'm not the right person to ask about this, but the extra risk factor involved wouldn't make it worthwhile for $5. ($5 is for the case where abuse isn't tolerated.)

    hmm.. ok
    so you dont know of any providers?

  • angstromangstrom Member

    @funy_arabian52 said:

    @angstrom said:

    @funy_arabian52 said:

    @angstrom said:

    @funy_arabian52 said: what? i said i am looking for a provider that does not respond to abuse reports.

    You're going to need to pay much more than $5 for this.

    how much do you think?

    I'm not the right person to ask about this, but the extra risk factor involved wouldn't make it worthwhile for $5. ($5 is for the case where abuse isn't tolerated.)

    hmm.. ok
    so you dont know of any providers?

    I guess that some people would suggest BuyVM, but it sounds like you're really testing the limits, so I'm not so sure. You may need to venture into the east, for example, a provider like AlexHost may be inclined to not respond to abuse reports, but be aware that any such provider will have their breaking point.

    "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    What OP wants to do, it will attract abuse/copyright reports like flies attracted to a rotten piece of meat.

    Never gonna fly unless he is willing to response to abuse reports rather than blatantly ignoring it.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • i guess i should update that to say that i just am looking for a provider that wont immediately terminate me
    99% of the content on my site is completely normal things, 0.5% contains gore or other controversial content, and 0.5% contains content which may violate dmca

  • errheaderrhead Member

    Couldn't you avoid the issue by connecting any regular box through a vpn provider that doesn't respond to the abuse complaints?

  • sanvitsanvit Member

    @errhead said:
    Couldn't you avoid the issue by connecting any regular box through a vpn provider that doesn't respond to the abuse complaints?

    Are there any VPNs that port-forwards 80 and 443?

  • momkinmomkin Member

    Too many requirements for $5 budget , Ooh man that ain't gonna happen !

  • DataIdeas-JoshDataIdeas-Josh Member, Provider

    @funy_arabian52 I would suggest at that point looking into Colo options but even still your options will be limited.
    I'm just going off what 4chan and other "high profile" sites have/should done/do.

    Alien Data: VPS and Colo Based In Texas, Unmetered Bandwidth.
    RPIServers: Dedicated Micro Servers - Micro Colo - Unmeterd Bandwidth

  • errheaderrhead Member

    Sanvit,My pureVPN does, but that's with a static IP, otherwise you may need to use :6969 or whatever port you can forward

  • elliotcelliotc Member

    I used have this kind of services in Netherlands. Until the upstream kick the whole racks out and the provider deadpool.

    Don't give me hope.

  • JoeFJoeF Member
    edited May 5

    Providers will hate me for suggesting this but what about using a reputable provider for hosting the site and setup a reverse proxy elsewhere on a DMCA ignored/super cheap host. Worst case you can easily redeploy the proxy elsewhere.

  • serv_eeserv_ee Member

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:
    @funy_arabian52 I would suggest at that point looking into Colo options but even still your options will be limited.
    I'm just going off what 4chan and other "high profile" sites have/should done/do.

    And how is that gonna help any? Your "isp" and/or colo provider will still forward those to you and cut you off in the end.

    hm. I've lost a machine.. literally lost. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

  • DataIdeas-JoshDataIdeas-Josh Member, Provider

    @serv_ee said:

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:
    @funy_arabian52 I would suggest at that point looking into Colo options but even still your options will be limited.
    I'm just going off what 4chan and other "high profile" sites have/should done/do.

    And how is that gonna help any? Your "isp" and/or colo provider will still forward those to you and cut you off in the end.

    Some do. Some don't. Look how many times TPB has been tried to be killed off. It's still up.

    Alien Data: VPS and Colo Based In Texas, Unmetered Bandwidth.
    RPIServers: Dedicated Micro Servers - Micro Colo - Unmeterd Bandwidth

  • serv_eeserv_ee Member

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:

    @serv_ee said:

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:
    @funy_arabian52 I would suggest at that point looking into Colo options but even still your options will be limited.
    I'm just going off what 4chan and other "high profile" sites have/should done/do.

    And how is that gonna help any? Your "isp" and/or colo provider will still forward those to you and cut you off in the end.

    Some do. Some don't. Look how many times TPB has been tried to be killed off. It's still up.

    How many providers has it had so far? Also tpb isn't run by the same people anymore either.

    hm. I've lost a machine.. literally lost. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

  • jahrincjahrinc Member
    edited May 5

    @sanvit said: Are there any VPNs that port-forwards 80 and 443?

    OVPN with static IP, $3/month plus the vpn fee. Works like a charm!

    Thanked by 1sanvit
  • jamespeachjamespeach Member

    I don't know why so many people here are freaking out. This is a simple request. If you are a host, and this sounds outrageous to you, then simply your company is not a good fit. Move on no big deal. For any hosts that sound like this is fine for you, I recommend contacting the OP directly to avoid unwanted attention.

  • @jamespeach said:
    I don't know why so many people here are freaking out. This is a simple request. If you are a host, and this sounds outrageous to you, then simply your company is not a good fit. Move on no big deal. For any hosts that sound like this is fine for you, I recommend contacting the OP directly to avoid unwanted attention.

    well said, my friend. i now understand that my request was unrealistic, but i am unsure of why everyone was being so hostile.

  • dahartigandahartigan Member without signature

    With those requirements and that budget, you're going to end up with extremely low quality and disastrously unreliable - much like a Chinese rocket..

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    I don't have pity for OP. It's the host that is going to suffer. That's why I am hostile.

    The dude is basically going to ruin someone's day for 5 bucks.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • @deank said:
    I don't have pity for OP. It's the host that is going to suffer. That's why I am hostile.

    The dude is basically going to ruin someone's day for 5 bucks.

    once again, it is the host's choice to offer the service that i request. i am not forcing anyone to change their policies in order to host me. i am being very clear about the content that i may be hosting. i still do not understand what the problem is if i am being transparent.

  • BoogeymanBoogeyman Member

    @jamespeach said:
    I don't know why so many people here are freaking out. This is a simple request. If you are a host, and this sounds outrageous to you, then simply your company is not a good fit. Move on no big deal. For any hosts that sound like this is fine for you, I recommend contacting the OP directly to avoid unwanted attention.

    Request is simple but paying less than peanuts for this kind of hosting isn't. No one will contact OP in their right mind for 5 bucks "(preferably under $4)".

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    @Boogeyman said: Request is simple but paying less than peanuts for this kind of hosting isn't. No one will contact OP in their right mind for 5 bucks "(preferably under $4)".

    That.

    What OP wants is for me a fairly default service, like yea morally maybe questionable to some(/most/all) but i don't care?

    But it's also not a 5$/Month service, at least for me. I also don't like Imageboards because of the CP aspect, the nearly only thing that in the long run will get anyone depeered, so that costs extra and i want some trust in the client (aka bare minimum removing CP when I send a mail, and a valid mail address for that).

    The legality is in many countries clear. If i would not limit myself to strictly not use US services i'd host this straightforward with someone like Rackspace, they have lawyers. Like - Physical ones, in an office (well, pre corona). But that also costs.

    I'd like to recommend https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ but not elaborate further (not mine, no commercial relationship).

  • syk14syk14 Member

    @William said:

    @Boogeyman said: Request is simple but paying less than peanuts for this kind of hosting isn't. No one will contact OP in their right mind for 5 bucks "(preferably under $4)".

    That.

    What OP wants is for me a fairly default service, like yea morally maybe questionable to some(/most/all) but i don't care?

    But it's also not a 5$/Month service, at least for me. I also don't like Imageboards because of the CP aspect, the nearly only thing that in the long run will get anyone depeered, so that costs extra and i want some trust in the client (aka bare minimum removing CP when I send a mail, and a valid mail address for that).

    The legality is in many countries clear. If i would not limit myself to strictly not use US services i'd host this straightforward with someone like Rackspace, they have lawyers. Like - Physical ones, in an office (well, pre corona). But that also costs.

    I'd like to recommend https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ but not elaborate further (not mine, no commercial relationship).

    https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2021/01/19/free-speech-in-2021/

  • notarobonotarobo Member

    for $4 what? for $4 maybe a burger is possible.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Not even a good burger, mind you.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • bruh21bruh21 Member

    @syk14 said:

    @William said:

    @Boogeyman said: Request is simple but paying less than peanuts for this kind of hosting isn't. No one will contact OP in their right mind for 5 bucks "(preferably under $4)".

    That.

    What OP wants is for me a fairly default service, like yea morally maybe questionable to some(/most/all) but i don't care?

    But it's also not a 5$/Month service, at least for me. I also don't like Imageboards because of the CP aspect, the nearly only thing that in the long run will get anyone depeered, so that costs extra and i want some trust in the client (aka bare minimum removing CP when I send a mail, and a valid mail address for that).

    The legality is in many countries clear. If i would not limit myself to strictly not use US services i'd host this straightforward with someone like Rackspace, they have lawyers. Like - Physical ones, in an office (well, pre corona). But that also costs.

    I'd like to recommend https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ but not elaborate further (not mine, no commercial relationship).

    https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2021/01/19/free-speech-in-2021/

    lol

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Moderator

    That has the strong stink of virtue-signaling, but they're right that no one is going to lay down in front of the tanks for $5/mo.

    Overall, NFS.net is grossly overpriced for what you get. Their 'free speech' stance isn't really different than a dozen other hosts'. Just smoke and branding.

    If OP wants to be the next 4chan, host where 4chan hosts. Or where stormfront.org hosts. Or pick some other controversial site and do like they do.

    Though if you're running the whole show on 1 core and 1.5gb of RAM, maybe you should just use prq.se's raspberry pi based hosting until you have a community.

    @funy_arabian52 said: gore, loli hentai

    You're not really making the world a better place.

    For LET support, please visit the support desk.

  • try to host your site by yourself in your pc/laptop maybe? you can decide to ignore dmca claim by yourself

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited May 8

    @raindog308 said: maybe you should just use prq.se's

    Nazi content is illegal in Sweden, as is a lot of other things. Good luck even with PRQ - They are for warez, not this.

    @raindog308 said: Overall, NFS.net is grossly overpriced for what you get. Their 'free speech' stance isn't really different than a dozen other hosts'. Just smoke and branding.

    Their stance does not matter as their DC does not forward abuse.

    @raindog308 said: Or where stormfront.org hosts

    hello :)

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited May 8

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  • notarobonotarobo Member

    probably the provider won't respond to support tickets either

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