VPS in Australia

asv

As many of you know, mr. @trewq is already providing solid and reasonably-priced services Down Under. However I wonder if there are new players in the market.

Please refrain from bringing-up OVH. Thank you.

thedp

HostHatch, Sydney.

asv

@thedp said: HostHatch, Sydney

Whaaaat? HostHatch in Sydney?.. How quickly things change.

aRNoLD

Hosthatch has business there.

its420somewhere

@asv said:
As many of you know, mr. @trewq is already providing solid and reasonably-priced services Down Under. However I wonder if there are new players in the market.

Please refrain from bringing-up OVH. Thank you.

Indeed sir @trewq is prem!

Check out binarylane.com.au @BinaryLane or quantumcore.com.au @QuantumCore for extra options

asv

@its420somewhere said: Check out binarylane.com.au @BinaryLane or quantumcore.com.au @QuantumCore for extra options

Yeah, these two companies are already in the shortlist. Glad to see them on LET.

asv

@thedp said:
HostHatch, Sydney.

@aRNoLD said:
Hosthatch has business there.

Hmm...

@hosthatch ?

its420somewhere

@MikeA extravm also do Sydney iirc

chocolateshirt

@asv said:

@thedp said:
HostHatch, Sydney.

@aRNoLD said:
Hosthatch has business there.

Hmm...

@hosthatch ?

Check it out next year, dude..

MikeA

@its420somewhere said:
@MikeA extravm also do Sydney iirc

I will just note this since he mentioned not to bring up OVH; My Australia servers are using OVH, so if he just doesn't want the OVH network it's out of the question. Thanks though.

aRNoLD

@asv said:

@thedp said:
HostHatch, Sydney.

@aRNoLD said:
Hosthatch has business there.

Hmm...

@hosthatch ?

https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/168301/black-friday-2020-nvme-and-storage-deals-deploy-worldwide/p1

NVMe deals:

Available in: Amsterdam, Stockholm, Los Angeles, Zurich, Oslo, Vienna, Warsaw, London, Chicago, New York and Sydney (Hong Kong, Madrid and Milan can be pre-ordered, but delivery will be by December 31st).

you'll see from the above thread that hosthatch does have business there, KVM, but not displayed in its currently deployed product line.

you'll find Sydney deployment of ovz product line.

https://imgur.com/a/PWClYYg

asv

@MikeA said: My Australia servers are using OVH, so if he just doesn't want the OVH network it's out of the question.

Network is fine, but their support and past experience of "disappearing VM" are not.

Daniel15

I've tried a bunch of providers in Australia and Quantum Core is the best IMO. Solid network, modern servers (with Xeon Gold 6258r processors and very fast NVMe drives), and they're an actual registered Australian business with an office based in Australia. They're currently running a promotion where if you deposit AU$10 of credit, you'll get AU$50 for free, meaning you can get one year of their cheapest plan (usually $5/month) for only $10. https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/168661/quantum-core-50-free-credit

corbpie

Just missed out on the HostHatch BF offers too 😛

MikeA

@asv said:
Network is fine, but their support and past experience of "disappearing VM" are not.

Understandable...

asv

@Daniel15 said: Solid network, modern servers (with Xeon Gold 6258r processors and very fast NVMe drives

Valuable information, thanks. Pings are somewhat high though, compared to @trewq's MEL location.

lentro

@hosthatch

Ganonk

@HostUS

NO aff https://my.hostus.us/cart.php?a=add&pid=405&billingcycle=annually&configoption[77]=378

asv

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I am sold.

kuroneko23

@asv said:

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I am sold.

I think he meant @AlexanderM

tetech

@Daniel15 said:
I've tried a bunch of providers in Australia and Quantum Core is the best IMO. Solid network, modern servers (with Xeon Gold 6258r processors and very fast NVMe drives), and they're an actual registered Australian business with an office based in Australia. They're currently running a promotion where if you deposit AU$10 of credit, you'll get AU$50 for free, meaning you can get one year of their cheapest plan (usually $5/month) for only $10. https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/168661/quantum-core-50-free-credit

Depending if you want to consider smaller businesses, another one in the "registered Australian business" category is Network Presence. For example, https://shop.networkpresence.com.au/cart.php?gid=8 and look at the tabs along the top. AU$3/month in Adelaide for a 1GB RAM KVM with 2TB BW is decent, I would say (AU$3.30 in Sydney).

To be perfectly honest I would say the reliability is probably a little lower than some of the other local operators and network speed is not super high, but as stated, small business with generally good customer service and good specs for the $.

With special offers, I'm paying (significantly) less than the above in Sydney for:

# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2020-12-07                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

Mon Dec 14 05:06:57 UTC 2020

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Processor  : AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X 12-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 1 @ 3493.450 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
RAM        : 719.5 MiB
Swap       : 1024.0 MiB
Disk       : 10.0 GiB

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                |                           |                 |
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 69.3 Mbits/sec  | 268 Mbits/sec
Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 71.6 Mbits/sec  | 339 Mbits/sec
WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | 9.26 Mbits/sec  | 146 Mbits/sec
Biznet          | Jakarta, Indonesia (1G)   | 38.2 Mbits/sec  | 203 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 44.3 Mbits/sec  | 217 Mbits/sec
Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 51.3 Mbits/sec  | 388 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 32.4 Mbits/sec  | 377 Mbits/sec
Iveloz Telecom  | Sao Paulo, BR (2G)        | busy            | 225 Mbits/sec

Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 550
Multi Core      | 543
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/5321565

Daniel15

@asv said:

@Daniel15 said: Solid network, modern servers (with Xeon Gold 6258r processors and very fast NVMe drives

Valuable information, thanks. Pings are somewhat high though, compared to @trewq's MEL location.

Yeah it depends on where you're pinging from. FlowVPS uses Equinix in Melbourne whereas QuantumCore uses Equinix in Sydney. For my use case I needed good ping times from Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne, and Sydney data centers are generally better on average for that use case (Melbourne-based hosting was better for Melbourne-based users but worse for Sydney and Brisbane).

eva2000

@asv said: However I wonder if there are new players in the market.

Not new but established for me in Australia besides Vultr and OVH which I use there's

• https://www.ransomit.com.au/
• https://www.binarylane.com.au/

which I also use

cazrz

Try binarylane

its420somewhere

Binary Lane have the best panel I've ever seen.

Daniel15

Yeah Binary Lane are pretty good, and have a lot of good things going for them. I agree with @its420somewhere that their control panel is one of the best (if not THE best) among all VPS hosts. Their help desk knowledgebase is very good. Data transfer is pooled between all your VPSes with them (eg if you have two VPSes with 1000 GB per month each, you effectively get 2000 GB shared across both). Their VPSes are billed hourly, which is really useful if you want to clone a VPS and spin up another one for testing something just for a few hours. The CPU, RAM, and disk space are all individually scalable on demand, so for example if your VPS is perfect except you just need a bit more RAM, you can add more RAM without having to switch to a different plan and pay for extra stuff (like more disk space) that you don't need.

An issue I had with them last time I tried their services (start of 2019) was that performance was wildly inconsistent. I could spin up two VPSes with identical specs, and sometimes one of them would feel significantly faster than the other (sometimes disk I/O, sometimes CPU power). They patched their kernels to not report stolen CPU time (KVM_FEATURE_STEAL_TIME) so it was harder to tell if the perf issues were due to noisy neighbours. I imagine the ability to scale CPU, RAM and disk space individually means that some nodes get very unbalanced.

swat4

@tetech said:

@Daniel15 said:
I've tried a bunch of providers in Australia and Quantum Core is the best IMO. Solid network, modern servers (with Xeon Gold 6258r processors and very fast NVMe drives), and they're an actual registered Australian business with an office based in Australia. They're currently running a promotion where if you deposit AU$10 of credit, you'll get AU$50 for free, meaning you can get one year of their cheapest plan (usually $5/month) for only $10. https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/168661/quantum-core-50-free-credit

Depending if you want to consider smaller businesses, another one in the "registered Australian business" category is Network Presence. For example, https://shop.networkpresence.com.au/cart.php?gid=8 and look at the tabs along the top. AU$3/month in Adelaide for a 1GB RAM KVM with 2TB BW is decent, I would say (AU$3.30 in Sydney).

To be perfectly honest I would say the reliability is probably a little lower than some of the other local operators and network speed is not super high, but as stated, small business with generally good customer service and good specs for the $.

With special offers, I'm paying (significantly) less than the above in Sydney for:

# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2020-12-07                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

Mon Dec 14 05:06:57 UTC 2020

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Processor  : AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X 12-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 1 @ 3493.450 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
RAM        : 719.5 MiB
Swap       : 1024.0 MiB
Disk       : 10.0 GiB

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                |                           |                 |
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 69.3 Mbits/sec  | 268 Mbits/sec
Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 71.6 Mbits/sec  | 339 Mbits/sec
WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | 9.26 Mbits/sec  | 146 Mbits/sec
Biznet          | Jakarta, Indonesia (1G)   | 38.2 Mbits/sec  | 203 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 44.3 Mbits/sec  | 217 Mbits/sec
Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 51.3 Mbits/sec  | 388 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 32.4 Mbits/sec  | 377 Mbits/sec
Iveloz Telecom  | Sao Paulo, BR (2G)        | busy            | 225 Mbits/sec

Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 550
Multi Core      | 543
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/5321565

Looks very nice at $3 AUD / month. Was it already the special offer or something else?

Thanks.

hosthatch

@asv said:

@hosthatch ?

Thanks for the recommendations everyone. We recently expanded our NVMe plans there and are considering doing some sort of storage plans there as well (unfortunately the bandwidth costs make it very hard to do similar storage plans as we do in the EU/US).

We didn't expect as much interest in Sydney and we already sold out our available capacity in a few days. If you want a small VM, please reach out and I can get you set up. For anything bigger, we'll have more capacity there hopefully before Christmas time.

Daniel15

@hosthatch said: If you want a small VM, please reach out and I can get you set up.

Can you do special offers on tiny VPSes with say 256 MB RAM and 5 GB space? I sent an email about small hosthatch VPSes for dnstools.ws two weeks ago but never heard back (just assumed you were busy but maybe it got marked as spam). I did actually end up getting one of the flash sale bundles that has a Sydney VPS so I'm looking forward to having that provisioned

hosthatch

@Daniel15 said:

@hosthatch said: If you want a small VM, please reach out and I can get you set up.

Can you do special offers on tiny VPSes with say 256 MB RAM and 5 GB space? I sent an email about small hosthatch VPSes for dnstools.ws two weeks ago but never heard back (just assumed you were busy but maybe it got marked as spam). I did actually end up getting one of the flash sale bundles that has a Sydney VPS so I'm looking forward to having that provisioned

We're going to re-do our standard plans starting from January 2020, and include much more resources by default.

We will likely have a 'starter' plan that comes to around $15-17/year for 1 GB RAM / 10 GB NVMe or something along those lines. But that is the lowest resources we can do on a VPS.

t0ny0

@hosthatch said:

@Daniel15 said:

@hosthatch said: If you want a small VM, please reach out and I can get you set up.

Can you do special offers on tiny VPSes with say 256 MB RAM and 5 GB space? I sent an email about small hosthatch VPSes for dnstools.ws two weeks ago but never heard back (just assumed you were busy but maybe it got marked as spam). I did actually end up getting one of the flash sale bundles that has a Sydney VPS so I'm looking forward to having that provisioned

We're going to re-do our standard plans starting from January 2020, and include much more resources by default.

We will likely have a 'starter' plan that comes to around $15-17/year for 1 GB RAM / 10 GB NVMe or something along those lines. But that is the lowest resources we can do on a VPS.

Please add more bandwidth on the default plans :-)

Thank you!

hosthatch

@t0ny0 said:

Please add more bandwidth on the default plans :-)

Thank you!

That is the plan. But Sydney, Hong Kong, Singapore, Tokyo and other similar locations will have a different bandwidth allotment than the US/EU ones. Still huge for the price though and definitely more TB/$ than the bigger players in these markets.

trewq

@hosthatch said:

@t0ny0 said:

Please add more bandwidth on the default plans :-)

Thank you!

That is the plan. But Sydney, Hong Kong, Singapore, Tokyo and other similar locations will have a different bandwidth allotment than the US/EU ones. Still huge for the price though and definitely more TB/$ than the bigger players in these markets.

Let me know if you'd like to look into transit services with us, can provide it in all the APAC locations you listed. Can be very competitive in AU especially.

t0ny0

@hosthatch said:

@t0ny0 said:

Please add more bandwidth on the default plans :-)

Thank you!

That is the plan. But Sydney, Hong Kong, Singapore, Tokyo and other similar locations will have a different bandwidth allotment than the US/EU ones. Still huge for the price though and definitely more TB/$ than the bigger players in these markets.

Obviously the high cost ones should be kept at bay :-)
I am talking more about NA/EU

New specs sounds awesome though, cant wait to try it out!

decryption

I think I missed it, but how do I buy services off @trewq - not sure what company they represent

RouteIX

@decryption said:
I think I missed it, but how do I buy services off @trewq - not sure what company they represent

flowvps.com

decryption

@RouteIX said:

@decryption said:
I think I missed it, but how do I buy services off @trewq - not sure what company they represent

flowvps.com

Sweet, cheers mate!

riot

@Daniel15 said:
I've tried a bunch of providers in Australia and Quantum Core is the best IMO. Solid network, modern servers (with Xeon Gold 6258r processors and very fast NVMe drives), and they're an actual registered Australian business with an office based in Australia. They're currently running a promotion where if you deposit AU$10 of credit, you'll get AU$50 for free, meaning you can get one year of their cheapest plan (usually $5/month) for only $10. https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/168661/quantum-core-50-free-credit

After a month of hoping @trewq gets some stock I have to look elsewhere. I came ->.<- this close to signing up with @quantumcore last night but in doing my due diligence I realised they want control over what content I have, and that is not acceptable to me. Shame, as they look to have what I want.

And because I know people will ask - I'm talking about their AUP against having lawful adult content and lawful adult discussions.

I want to support Aussies but by and large we're a bunch of prudes. :P

Gravely

My 2c on Sydney services;

HostHatch - Haven't tested extensively since picking up a BF KVM however for the price, I can't see myself complaining.

HostUS - Been with them for years using their OVZ Sydney presence as a personal VPN. Decided to take the leap and pick up a few KVM's on launch for personal projects and have been blown away by the performance.

BinaryLane - Have been using them for over 3 years now for multiple clients with nothing but positive feedback ( I don't actually think I have a support ticket with them). Their panel is miles ahead of a lot of providers with extensive onsite and offsite backup options. They also share their upgrades on all POPs in Australia on Twitter and personally (I believe Sydney and Brisbane are fully upgraded now) Their new panel is coming soon too.

RansomIT - Slightly more expensive then most, however, Oliver's customer service and network experience are truly inspiring, especially with custom dedi needs. I'd be lying to say that network isn't perfect as i did experience multiple outages throughout the year I was with him. Note: Oliver was always fully transparent on what the issue was.

FlowVPS - Decided to not renewal my Melbourne service after the first year mainly due to our client base being in Sydney. However, @trewq has a special eye for detail and never had any issues, besides the occasional network drop (I believe its RansomIT's infrastructure)

Linode - Solid but CPU's limited to 2.2ghz and for $5/m all the services above provide much better performance.

malikshi

you can try streamline-servers

trewq

@Gravely said:
RansomIT - Slightly more expensive then most, however, Oliver's customer service and network experience are truly inspiring, especially with custom dedi needs. I'd be lying to say that network isn't perfect as i did experience multiple outages throughout the year I was with him. Note: Oliver was always fully transparent on what the issue was.

Not sure how long ago this was but we've been working hard over the last year on the network with hardware and peering upgrades with even more exciting upgrades coming in the new year!

asv

@riot said: I came ->.<- this close to signing up with @quantumcore last night but in doing my due diligence I realised they want control over what content I have, and that is not acceptable to me. Shame, as they look to have what I want.

Yeah, that's a nasty TOS. I particularly dislike the "small business catering to a single country" clause.

HyperK9

Best providers

• OVH
  OK Network, shit support and if your VPS is down just give up, no proper IPv6. I guess they are pretty cheap and the best value, but I would probably stay away because they kind of suck.

• Vultr
  Pretty good value, their CPU and disk speeds are very fast for their pricing, speedtests are up to 10gbps which is the fastest I have seen on a VPS in Australia.

• Quantum Core
  They are really good, their prices are very cheap, good network, IPv6 support. Can't really ask for more.

• Network Presence
  I think they start from $3/month, although network and disk speeds are pretty slow.

• Streamline Servers
  They are a bit more expensive, but their network is probably the best out of most VPS providers in AU (GSL Networks).

Gravely

@trewq said:

@Gravely said:
RansomIT - Slightly more expensive then most, however, Oliver's customer service and network experience are truly inspiring, especially with custom dedi needs. I'd be lying to say that network isn't perfect as i did experience multiple outages throughout the year I was with him. Note: Oliver was always fully transparent on what the issue was.

Not sure how long ago this was but we've been working hard over the last year on the network with hardware and peering upgrades with even more exciting upgrades coming in the new year!

2018-2019 was when i last had a service with you guys. Great to see you are actively improving

jon617

I second RansomIT. Been good for me.

gdarko

VPS other than USA and Europe will cost you a kidney

kyaky

I use Vultr, HostUS, HostHatch for Sydney location

corbpie

@gdarko said:
VPS other than USA and Europe will cost you a kidney

Are you stuck in 2017?

Daniel15

If anyone is looking for a VPS in Australia, this HostHatch Christmas deal is still in stock:

1 CPU core (12.5% dedicated, burstable up to 100%)
2 GB RAM
20 GB NVMe SSD
0.5 TB bandwidth
$22 per year
$35 per 2 years

https://manage.hosthatch.com/billing/order/nvme2g-syd

Once the link 404s, it's sold out.

jon617

@Daniel15 said: VPS in Australia, this HostHatch Christmas deal is still in stock

Thanks. Picked one up. It's KVM, by the way. $35/2years was too good.

Daniel15

@jon617 said: It's KVM

Good point... I didn't think to mention that since KVM is the 'standard' cloud VM these days