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FI/HEL, 6 Cores / 12 Threads Intel Xeon, 2GB ECC RAM, 5GB SSD, 1Gbit, Backups included @ €3.16/month

Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider
edited September 9 in Offers

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Introducing Webdock to LowEndTalk

Hello everybody!

We are happy to finally be a part of the LowEndTalk community and would like to try and post an offer here and see how well you guys receive us. Webdock is not like the typical hosting provider you might see on LowEndTalk, for a variety of reasons. Let's try and explain a few of the highlights:

  • We operate our own hardware in Co-Location (read more below)
  • We have built a complete end-to-end hosting platform based on Canonical LXD with our own Control Panel (3rd party control panels available, see below)
  • Which means we can provide a lot of unique benefits and features (and some drawbacks vis-a-vis KVM for example)

The LowEndTalk September Special

If you want to try out Webdock, we have put together a coupon code for you guys. After signing up with us and adding a credit card, add the coupon code:

LOWENDTALKSEPT007

And you will receive a €10.00 Euro Credit added to your account which you can use on any one of our server profiles. There is no requirement for purchase and you can simply spin up and delete a server again and get fully refunded any unused compute/credit.

Offer terms:
- This coupon code is only valid for new accounts
- The coupon can be activated up to and including September 30th 2020

Click here to get started


Try Our Smallest Server Profile for Free

We invite you to try our smallest server profile which has a sticker price of €4.00 so with the above coupon you can take it for a spin for a whole 2 months and not pay a dime (and even have a bit of credit left over). With the coupon you'd on average get the first year for just €3.16/month

Webdock Micro:

  • 6 Cores / 12 Threads Intel Xeon CPU
  • 2GB ECC RAM
  • 5GB (fast) SSD storage backed by ZFS
  • 1Gbit port with "unlimited" traffic. No overage charges. Fair use applies: read more here
  • 1 Dedicated IPv4 address and a /112 IPv6 range (65,563 addresses) included
  • Server will be placed in Helsinki Finland (no, we are not reselling Hetzner)
  • Choose between "Perfect Server" LAMP/LEMP stacks or clean Ubuntu images
  • Lots of backups included, awesome control panel, DDOS protection, Free Email forwarding, Free transactional email with Postmark etc. etc. - check out our website for full details.

Our next tier up has more RAM and more Disk and in our larger profiles you can get up to a whopping 15 Cores / 30 Threads. With the coupon above you could try our next-tier-up profile, Micro+, for the first month essentially for free. Check out all our Profiles and pricing here

Click here to get started


YABS benchmark for this (our smallest) profile (thanks larmarat)

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 v2 @ 2.50GHz
CPU cores  : 12 @ 1200.053 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 1.9Gi
Swap       : 119Gi
df: no file systems processed
Disk       :

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 47.36 MB/s   (11.8k) | 210.49 MB/s   (3.2k)
Write      | 47.41 MB/s   (11.8k) | 211.59 MB/s   (3.3k)
Total      | 94.78 MB/s   (23.6k) | 422.08 MB/s   (6.5k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 226.86 MB/s    (443) | 229.38 MB/s    (224)
Write      | 238.91 MB/s    (466) | 244.65 MB/s    (238)
Total      | 465.77 MB/s    (909) | 474.03 MB/s    (462)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider                  | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                          |                           |                 |
Bouygues Telecom          | Paris, FR (10G)           | 555 Mbits/sec   | 1.57 Gbits/sec
Online.net                | Paris, FR (10G)           | 477 Mbits/sec   | 1.62 Gbits/sec
WorldStream               | The Netherlands (10G)     | 568 Mbits/sec   | 911 Mbits/sec
wilhelm.tel               | Hamburg, DE (10G)         | 617 Mbits/sec   | 1.68 Gbits/sec
Biznet                    | Bogor, Indonesia (1G)     | 21.2 Mbits/sec  | 163 Mbits/sec
Hostkey                   | Moscow, RU (1G)           | 686 Mbits/sec   | 937 Mbits/sec
Velocity Online           | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 231 Mbits/sec   | 650 Mbits/sec
Airstream Comms           | Eau Claire, WI, US (10G)  | 202 Mbits/sec   | 575 Mbits/sec
Hurricane Electric        | Fremont, CA, US (10G)     | 174 Mbits/sec   | 473 Mbits/sec

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
---------------------------------
Provider                  | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                          |                           |                 |
Bouygues Telecom          | Paris, FR (10G)           | 417 Mbits/sec   | 1.61 Gbits/sec
Online.net                | Paris, FR (10G)           | 515 Mbits/sec   | 894 Mbits/sec
WorldStream               | The Netherlands (10G)     | busy            | 1.79 Gbits/sec
wilhelm.tel               | Hamburg, DE (10G)         | 488 Mbits/sec   | 1.67 Gbits/sec
Airstream Comms           | Eau Claire, WI, US (10G)  | 84.0 Mbits/sec  | 122 Mbits/sec
Hurricane Electric        | Fremont, CA, US (10G)     | 151 Mbits/sec   | 528 Mbits/sec

Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 513
Multi Core      | 3362
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3671662

How can you provide so much CPU-juice for so little?

We get this question asked a lot and it is a bit strange for us having to explain our hardware profiles as much as we do. The industry is so used to optimizing tenant density and is so marked by a reseller culture (It's resellers all the way down!) that people don't realize that us "near-first-tier operators" who are in co-location and can take advantage of economies at scale and low overheads, are looking at perfectly adequate profit margins even with an outstanding hardware mix. What we do specifically is:

  • We operate high-quality refurb hardware (typically Dell Poweredge units) in order to cut costs on outlay while providing excellent performance
  • Take advantage of Linux Containers as our hypervisor is LXD. Many providers would see this is a good way to increase tenant density. At Webdock we do the opposite: We pass on more hardware resources to you, the end-user.
  • We actively balance and adjust capacity according to load. No host is ever allowed to go above 30% utilization sustained
  • Compute density is increasing rapidly these years. Within a few years we are looking at deploying kilothread Epyc systems in a 1U package. That's a lot of flippin' compute.
  • And frankly, maybe we are just not as greedy as so many other providers ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

TL;DR: With Webdock, you do actually get what it says on the sticker.!


Helsinki Finland. So, this is just Hetzner, right?

Yes and no. As stated we operate our own hardware in co-location and in the EU we have chosen Hetzner as our co-location partner. This means that we own our own racks in the Hetzner Datacenter, we operate our own IPv4 blocks ( RIPE ) and Hetzner merely supplies the redundant power and network connections. Add to that the fantastic level of technical expertise in their datacenters and fantastic DDOS protection, you get the best of both worlds with Webdock.


That's not a lot of SSD Storage - what about hardware upgrades?

A primary reason we do not offer as much storage included in our base packages as the competition is because we use on-board storage and not network-attached storage. In our largest profiles this is RAIDed Nvme drives and in our smaller profiles this is RAIDed enterprise SSD drives (SATA+ZFS). We opted for this route in order to provide excellent performance, first and foremost.

We offer a range of expansion options to our base profiles. All our profiles can be upgraded or downgraded without any downtime and in addition you can get a range of hardware upgrades, including:

  • On-Board HDD backed Storage mounted in a directory of your choosing
    €0.075 /Month /GB

  • Expanding your SSD root storage volume
    € 0.125 /Month /GB

In addition you can order additional IPv4 addresses, more RAM etc. Please take a look at our Additional Products page for full pricing and details.


Webdock is probably not suited for most resellers

As our hypervisor is LXD on Ubuntu we are not suited for something like installing KVM. We do support nested containers (LXD and Docker), but you are loosing control of certain aspects which you may want to tweak if you want to further slice up our VPS's. We also do not support CentOS so cpanel is a no go. However we do have quite a few shared-host resellers on our platform that use 3rd party control panels such as Runcloud and Serverpilot. We would just like to leave you with this quote from one of our customers:

i'm really in love with Webdock, it was such a breeze moving my sites from an old dedicated server which was far more costly. It's so nice having everything I need already installed (MySQL, PHP, composer, git, etc). Control panel is really nice. All the extras like shell users, certificates, crons, etc, spot on! So happy to be done with Cpanel forever now. -Nate, USA

So for single site -> Single (awesome) server type reselling, Webdock has a pretty sweet control panel you might want to give a chance.

In addition Webdock is fully GDPR compliant and you can easily generate a DPA between you and your clients you may be reselling to within the European Union. Also, Webdock has really been built from the ground up with agencies and "premium reselling" in mind - not shared hosting / lowest common denominator hosting. We certainly will not stop you from doing so, but if you care about more than reaching the lowest possible cost we urge you to consider a 1 server = 1 app/website approach as the benefits are many.

With all that said, we are releasing our API within 1-2 weeks where we will have SDKs for Python, NodeJS and PHP right out the gate and shortly following that we will release a (free) WHMCS integration plugin, so that could be an option for you if you are looking to resell Webdock in more of a shared-setup with automated billing etc.


FAQ

What are your terms and conditions?

Our terms and conditions are pretty awesome, actually. You should check them out. Here are some links to all the legal nitty-gritty:

Where are your Datacenters located?

We are in co-location with Hetzner in Helsinki Finland (details above). In the USA, Dallas TX, we lease hardware from Servermania - thus the lower specs on those servers. At the moment we are all sold out of servers in Dallas however but we are in the process of deploying more servers there which should become available within the next few weeks.

If you want to try out Webdock, it is a breeze to move servers between regions - so there is nothing stopping you from provisioning a server in Finland and then later migrating it to the US (you will obviously receive a new IP address when doing so)

What is your Refund Policy?

We refund all unused compute time down to the day instantly and directly to your payment method as soon as you delete a server. As simple as that.

Supported payment types?

We only support Credit Cards with Stripe as our payment processor at the moment. Later this year we will roll out Paypal and AliPay support.

Do you price match?

Not really something we have had to deal with, ever. But if you find something that's a VPS with better specs shoot us a message and we will take a look. We don't promise anything as there's lots more included than just hardware in our platform (such as our expansive feature set and 3rd party services, stellar support and more).

Test IP?

Since all servers are essentially free for the first 24 hours with Webdock, regardless of coupons or not, we urge you to simply create a server with us and run some tests. This makes more sense than us reserving some "golden ip" for you to test against.

What Operating Systems are available?

We only support Ubuntu in a few version flavors at the moment and do not plan on expanding to other OS's at this time.


Select Customer Reviews

“Quality, Security & performance, 1 push of a button.. Webdock gives it all! Even their customer support has a high performance - Yoram, Netherlands

“ Free transactional email from Postmark? Absolutely love your rock bottom prices! You guys are killing it! You've built something really really cool here. - Pratheek, India

“You all seem to be really on top of your game - Alexander, Spain

“Honestly i've tried like 5 different hosting companies today and yours was the best, you have the most intuitive GUI and start up was the fastest. - Hayden, Canada

“How have I never heard of you? This is awesome! - Tobias, USA

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Comments

  • Wow, a WoT provider.

    I can't even find the order page.

  • serv_eeserv_ee Member
    edited September 9

    That disk space vs cores ratio is... interesting to say the least.

    I swear to drunk Im not god

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @yokowasis said:
    Wow, a WoT provider.

    I can't even find the order page.

    What's a WoT provider? :) The order page? You sign up and spin up a server. Done.

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @serv_ee said:
    That disk space vs cores ratio is... interesting to say the least.

    Yep and that is explained in our post here - on-board redundant storage is a lot faster but not as "flexible" as network attached storage in the sense we cannot scale infinitely and have to keep a reserve for users who might want to buy more etc. - It's a tradeoff which we think is worth it for the performance gain.

  • Any YABS/Monster @Webdock_io ?

    A simple uptime dashboard using UptimeRobot API https://upy.baubus.uk
    Currently using VPS from BuyVM, HostHatch, HostSailor, HostSolutions, LiteServer, MaxKVM, MrVM, ServaRICA, VirMach.

  • LTnigerLTniger Member
    edited September 9

    So much marketing fuss, that I can't even find where is offer. Just static of buzz words.

    So, refurbed servers, low storage, high CPU (shared), rusty spinners and Hetzner infra. Ok. Now can you make it 1 EUR/mo? 2 CPU would be fine for Wireguard server.

    What modules activated on the node?

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  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @LTniger said:
    So much marketing fuss, that I can't even find where is offer. Just static of buzz words.

    So, refurbed servers, low storage, high CPU (shared), rusty spinners and Hetzner infra. Ok. Now can you make it 1 EUR/mo? 2 CPU would be fine for Wireguard server.

    What modules activated on the node?

    Howdy. None of our server profiles use HDD - it's all SSD.

    Hetzner power and network cables yes, our own hardware, IP blocks and software stack.

    The offer is stated in the first two sections (coupon, then specs on our smallest profile) - take a look at webdock.io for full hardware details / see all profiles.

    Modules activated on the node? I don't really think you understand what our servers are from a basic standpoint. I know it's a bit confusing and too much to take in that we are so different from what you are probably used to seeing :)

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @chocolateshirt said:
    Any YABS/Monster @Webdock_io ?

    I will need you to clarify that chocolateshirt (nice nick btw)

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  • yokowasisyokowasis Member
    edited September 9

    @Webdock_io said:

    @yokowasis said:
    Wow, a WoT provider.

    I can't even find the order page.

    What's a WoT provider? :) The order page? You sign up and spin up a server. Done.

    Woman on Top Wall of Text

    What I mean is, I can't even find the link to the order page.

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @yokowasis said:

    @Webdock_io said:

    @yokowasis said:
    Wow, a WoT provider.

    I can't even find the order page.

    What's a WoT provider? :) The order page? You sign up and spin up a server. Done.

    Woman on Top Wall of Text

    What I mean is, I can't even find the link to the order page.

    First I thought you meant Web of Things :D

    Fair enough :) Thanks for that feedback - just edited the post and put in some big phat links. The final markdown formatting of LET is, well, different from the post preview. We'll try do do better next time.

  • miumiu Member
    edited September 9

    @chocolateshirt said:
    Any YABS/Monster @Webdock_io ?

    Exactly. Pls provide any YABS of offered plan, because only says 6 v cores most time mean nothing, bench will say much more or all

    I know providers (fair-sharing) when 1 vcore is more powerful than 6 cores together from else..

    My FAVS / I am a fan of: HostHatch, LetBox, BuyVM, NexusBytes, Vultr, OVH, Hetzner, HostUS, HudsonVH, ExtraVM, CrownCloud

    THANKS for awesome services and excellent work!

  • Read the whole post, interesting idea :) Also, what people keep referring to as YABS is a bench mark script

  • LTnigerLTniger Member
    edited September 9

    Lxd containers. Node, what kernel modules does node have enabled? Can i use your lxd container for wireguard vpn?

    Yes, I don't understand what is servers...

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  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @miu said:

    @chocolateshirt said:
    Any YABS/Monster @Webdock_io ?

    Exactly. Pls provide any YABS of offered plan, because only says 6 v cores most time mean nothing, bench will say much more or all

    I know providers (fair-sharing) when 1 vcore is more powerful than 6 cores together from else..

    I will check with an engineer to do a benchmark run with YABS and post back here - but you can also do so easily by yourself by spinning up a server and giving it a go. It's free to try after all :)

    Also, you are absolutely correct. A very old Xeon with lots of threads can easily get its ass kicked by a single thread from a brand new (Ryzen or whatever) CPU.

    Our current price/performance is quite good in that respect as far as I know from tests we have made recently.

    One problem we have in the industry (IMO) is that there is no industry-default benchmark where you can compare these things across providers - sure there are some sites out there, but they all have their problems.

  • just not as greedy as so many other providers

    The outside world, I dont know.
    But...in my calculations, many LET providers are good at photosynthetic, and operating at a loss.

    Coffee, please.

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @muffin said:
    Read the whole post, interesting idea :) Also, what people keep referring to as YABS is a bench mark script

    Yes I gathered as much - we will get a yabs benchmark up shortly for both our Micro and Pro profiles. But as I mentioned in my other reply: Feel free to try it yourself. It's free to try after all.

  • LXC/LXD has been quite painful at most places (it was horrible with Cociu's host solutions when initially rolled out and hastily rolled back). TerraHost (Norway) also have a line of VPSs based on containers and while it "works" it is really not great at all, trampling merrily over some of your /etc/ files when you reboot to say the least (and locking up hard if somethings are out of place). Hey, but at least it mostly works, and they allow you to use a few other OSs including Debian.

    I'm a bit puzzled at the choice here (density wise I think OpenVZ7 will compete fairly without some of the inherent pain of LXC).

    @Webdock_io - how come you don't support any other OS other than Ubuntu? I'm sure that's going to miff a lot of the folks to start with.

    Any plans for a better balanced spec (less CPU + more disk or less price or something in between)? Also, do you have any plans for shorter billing plans/cycles like hourly/daily? 5GB is kind of really tricky to do anything significant with disk wise when you consider 6 cores and 2GB of RAM...

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @LTniger said:
    Lxd containers. Node, what kernel modules does node have enabled? Can i use your lxd container for wireguard vpn?

    Yes, I don't understand what is servers...

    Ah I see. I apologize. Not sure about wireguard I will have to check with an engineer. I know we support OpenVPN (apologize if I am ignorant here, haven't used Wireguard)

    What sort of module information would you like to see, a dump from lsmod? If so, here you go:

    # lsmod
    Module                  Size  Used by
    nft_counter            16384  18
    tcp_diag               16384  0
    inet_diag              24576  1 tcp_diag
    xt_set                 16384  0
    ip_set_hash_ip         40960  0
    scsi_transport_iscsi   110592  0
    xt_recent              24576  0
    sctp                  339968  14
    ip6t_rpfilter          16384  2
    ip_set                 53248  2 ip_set_hash_ip,xt_set
    ebtable_nat            16384  1
    ebtable_broute         16384  1
    ip6table_security      16384  2
    iptable_security       16384  2
    ip6table_raw           16384  2
    ip6table_mangle        16384  2
    iptable_raw            16384  2
    ip6table_nat           16384  2
    xt_CHECKSUM            16384  0
    xt_nat                 16384  0
    iptable_mangle         16384  2
    vxlan                  69632  0
    ip6_udp_tunnel         16384  1 vxlan
    udp_tunnel             16384  1 vxlan
    xt_comment             16384  0
    nf_conntrack_netlink    45056  0
    xt_MASQUERADE          20480  0
    xfrm_user              36864  0
    iptable_nat            16384  2
    nf_nat                 40960  4 ip6table_nat,xt_nat,iptable_nat,xt_MASQUERADE
    overlay               114688  0
    ebtable_filter         16384  1
    ebtables               36864  3 ebtable_nat,ebtable_filter,ebtable_broute
    veth                   28672  0
    nf_tables             135168  19 nft_counter
    nfnetlink              16384  4 nf_conntrack_netlink,nf_tables,ip_set
    unix_diag              16384  0
    ufs                    81920  0
    qnx4                   16384  0
    hfsplus               110592  0
    hfs                    61440  0
    minix                  36864  0
    ntfs                  106496  0
    msdos                  20480  0
    jfs                   188416  0
    xfs                  1277952  0
    cpuid                  16384  0
    binfmt_misc            24576  1
    xt_multiport           20480  12
    cfg80211              704512  0
    8021q                  32768  0
    garp                   16384  1 8021q
    mrp                    20480  1 8021q
    bonding               167936  0
    nls_iso8859_1          16384  1
    zfs                  4030464  12
    zunicode              331776  1 zfs
    zavl                   16384  1 zfs
    icp                   286720  1 zfs
    ipmi_ssif              36864  0
    zcommon                90112  2 zfs,icp
    znvpair                81920  2 zfs,zcommon
    spl                   126976  5 zfs,icp,znvpair,zcommon,zavl
    zlua                  147456  1 zfs
    intel_rapl_msr         20480  0
    intel_rapl_common      24576  1 intel_rapl_msr
    sb_edac                32768  0
    x86_pkg_temp_thermal    20480  0
    intel_powerclamp       20480  0
    coretemp               20480  0
    dcdbas                 20480  0
    kvm_intel             286720  0
    input_leds             16384  0
    joydev                 24576  0
    kvm                   663552  1 kvm_intel
    intel_cstate           20480  0
    intel_rapl_perf        20480  0
    mei_me                 40960  0
    mei                   106496  1 mei_me
    ipmi_si                65536  0
    ipmi_devintf           20480  0
    ipmi_msghandler       106496  3 ipmi_devintf,ipmi_si,ipmi_ssif
    acpi_power_meter       20480  0
    mac_hid                16384  0
    nf_log_ipv6            16384  19
    ip6t_REJECT            16384  17
    nf_reject_ipv6         20480  1 ip6t_REJECT
    xt_hl                  16384  88
    ip6t_rt                20480  12
    nf_log_ipv4            16384  19
    nf_log_common          16384  2 nf_log_ipv4,nf_log_ipv6
    sch_fq_codel           20480  33
    ipt_REJECT             16384  114
    nf_reject_ipv4         16384  1 ipt_REJECT
    xt_LOG                 20480  38
    xt_limit               16384  50
    xt_addrtype            16384  16
    xt_tcpudp              20480  156
    xt_conntrack           16384  104
    nf_conntrack          139264  5 xt_conntrack,nf_nat,xt_nat,nf_conntrack_netlink,xt_MASQUERADE
    nf_defrag_ipv6         24576  1 nf_conntrack
    nf_defrag_ipv4         16384  1 nf_conntrack
    ip6table_filter        16384  6
    ip6_tables             32768  216 ip6table_filter,ip6table_raw,ip6table_nat,ip6table_mangle,ip6table_security
    iptable_filter         16384  6
    br_netfilter           28672  0
    bpfilter               32768  0
    bridge                176128  1 br_netfilter
    stp                    16384  2 bridge,garp
    llc                    16384  3 bridge,stp,garp
    ip_tables              32768  37 iptable_filter,iptable_security,iptable_raw,iptable_nat,iptable_mangle
    x_tables               40960  28 ebtables,ip6table_filter,xt_conntrack,ip6table_raw,iptable_filter,iptable_security,ip6t_rpfilter,xt_LOG,xt_multiport,xt_tcpudp,xt_addrtype,xt_CHECKSUM,xt_recent,xt_nat,ip6t_rt,xt_comment,xt_set,ip6_tables,ipt_REJECT,iptable_raw,ip_tables,xt_limit,xt_hl,ip6table_mangle,ip6table_security,xt_MASQUERADE,ip6t_REJECT,iptable_mangle
    autofs4                45056  2
    btrfs                1249280  0
    zstd_compress         167936  1 btrfs
    raid10                 57344  0
    raid456               155648  0
    async_raid6_recov      24576  1 raid456
    async_memcpy           20480  2 raid456,async_raid6_recov
    async_pq               24576  2 raid456,async_raid6_recov
    async_xor              20480  3 async_pq,raid456,async_raid6_recov
    async_tx               20480  5 async_pq,async_memcpy,async_xor,raid456,async_raid6_recov
    xor                    24576  2 async_xor,btrfs
    raid6_pq              114688  4 async_pq,btrfs,raid456,async_raid6_recov
    libcrc32c              16384  6 nf_conntrack,nf_nat,btrfs,xfs,raid456,sctp
    raid1                  45056  0
    raid0                  24576  0
    multipath              20480  0
    linear                 20480  0
    hid_generic            16384  0
    usbhid                 57344  0
    hid                   131072  2 usbhid,hid_generic
    uas                    28672  0
    usb_storage            77824  1 uas
    crct10dif_pclmul       16384  1
    crc32_pclmul           16384  0
    ghash_clmulni_intel    16384  0
    mgag200                32768  0
    aesni_intel           372736  0
    drm_vram_helper        20480  1 mgag200
    mxm_wmi                16384  0
    ttm                   106496  1 drm_vram_helper
    crypto_simd            16384  1 aesni_intel
    drm_kms_helper        184320  3 mgag200
    cryptd                 24576  2 crypto_simd,ghash_clmulni_intel
    syscopyarea            16384  1 drm_kms_helper
    glue_helper            16384  1 aesni_intel
    sysfillrect            16384  1 drm_kms_helper
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    igb                   221184  0
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    xfrm_algo              16384  2 xfrm_user,ixgbe
    lpc_ich                24576  0
    libahci                32768  1 ahci
    dca                    16384  2 igb,ixgbe
    megaraid_sas          163840  7
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  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @nullnothere said:
    LXC/LXD has been quite painful at most places (it was horrible with Cociu's host solutions when initially rolled out and hastily rolled back). TerraHost (Norway) also have a line of VPSs based on containers and while it "works" it is really not great at all, trampling merrily over some of your /etc/ files when you reboot to say the least (and locking up hard if somethings are out of place). Hey, but at least it mostly works, and they allow you to use a few other OSs including Debian.

    I'm a bit puzzled at the choice here (density wise I think OpenVZ7 will compete fairly without some of the inherent pain of LXC).

    @Webdock_io - how come you don't support any other OS other than Ubuntu? I'm sure that's going to miff a lot of the folks to start with.

    Any plans for a better balanced spec (less CPU + more disk or less price or something in between)? Also, do you have any plans for shorter billing plans/cycles like hourly/daily? 5GB is kind of really tricky to do anything significant with disk wise when you consider 6 cores and 2GB of RAM...

    Yes we know. Actually while building out our platform over the last 3 years, given the issues we have helped fix with the LXD team and the workarounds we have had to make, we are almost certain we are the only guys out there who have really nailed this.

    w/regard to Ubuntu: This is primarily due to the management tools in our dashboard are all built to interact with Ubuntu. Some OS's might work fine without much change, but for simplicity and to keep our codebase somewhat sane we have chosen to focus on Ubuntu as the stock OS.

    Depends on what you mean by balance - check out our larger profiles, there you get a lot more disk and ram for your money and this might be more to your liking. You can also expand disk as mentioned, quite easily.

    We have no immediate plans on changing our profiles, except possibly raising the disk allowance for our smaller profiles (again, we did so already once last year)

    As newer hardware comes in and we deploy more and more units, this will all evolve over time, as is the norm I suppose :)

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @elliotc said:

    just not as greedy as so many other providers

    The outside world, I dont know.
    But...in my calculations, many LET providers are good at photosynthetic, and operating at a loss.

    Good at photosynthesis? So they are plant-based hosting providers? :D

    Not sure if it makes sense for people to operate at a loss. We do not.

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @nullnothere said:
    LXC/LXD has been quite painful at most places (it was horrible with Cociu's host solutions when initially rolled out and hastily rolled back). TerraHost (Norway) also have a line of VPSs based on containers and while it "works" it is really not great at all, trampling merrily over some of your /etc/ files when you reboot to say the least (and locking up hard if somethings are out of place). Hey, but at least it mostly works, and they allow you to use a few other OSs including Debian.

    I'm a bit puzzled at the choice here (density wise I think OpenVZ7 will compete fairly without some of the inherent pain of LXC).

    @Webdock_io - how come you don't support any other OS other than Ubuntu? I'm sure that's going to miff a lot of the folks to start with.

    Any plans for a better balanced spec (less CPU + more disk or less price or something in between)? Also, do you have any plans for shorter billing plans/cycles like hourly/daily? 5GB is kind of really tricky to do anything significant with disk wise when you consider 6 cores and 2GB of RAM...

    I forgot to answer regarding shorter billing cycles: We fail to see the point. Either you run an app / server or you do not. If you are just trying somehting out, you can do so for free up to 24 hours with Webdock. If you then run something and decide you don't want it, we refund you instantly for all unused time down to the day.

    There are some other considerations here w/regard to complexity and general operations, bookkeeping etc. as well, which makes our monthly billing work out as the ideal for us

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @nullnothere said:
    LXC/LXD has been quite painful at most places (it was horrible with Cociu's host solutions when initially rolled out and hastily rolled back). TerraHost (Norway) also have a line of VPSs based on containers and while it "works" it is really not great at all, trampling merrily over some of your /etc/ files when you reboot to say the least (and locking up hard if somethings are out of place). Hey, but at least it mostly works, and they allow you to use a few other OSs including Debian.

    Aaaaand to clarify: Our LXD VPS servers behave (99%+) like any other VPS. None of the nonsense and shenanigans you mention here is present on our servers. Only edge cases you might encounter are kernel module syou might need for specialized software, but here we are flexible and usually enable / tweak kernel parameters as needed (as long as they do not cause stability or security issues)

  • @Webdock_io said: workarounds we have had to make, we are almost certain we are the only guys out there who have really nailed this.

    I wouldn't be surprised, considering that you're running an untrusted multi-tenant setup with somewhat dubious isolation (compared to KVM and maybe even OpenVZ which seems to have been more tested due to wider deployments/base).

    @Webdock_io said: Some OS's might work fine without much change, but for simplicity and to keep our codebase somewhat sane we have chosen to focus on Ubuntu as the stock OS.

    This is definitely a pain point for the intended consumer and I think you will have to support a wider variety of OSs somewhat stably to get serious traction.

    There's enough pain in LXC/LXD itself to deal with that being forced to also live with an "alien" OS is going to be brutal for a number of users.

    @Webdock_io said: We have no immediate plans on changing our profiles

    That's a bummer. It would have been nice to have some sort of a really low end plan for the Low Enders here to use as a VPN with wireguard at a much smaller price point than you have (despite your credit offer).

    @Webdock_io said: Our LXD VPS servers behave (99%+) like any other VPS.

    I might give it a shot, but believe me, everytime I've used an LXC system, I've tripped up on it pretty hard that it locks me out fairly quickly. I've to specially treat many files inside /etc/ that it really blows me away to make so many exceptions. That time is better invested elsewhere unless there's some unique value to the VPS. You'll be surprised at how that 1% becomes so important inside /etc/ ...

  • @Webdock_io said:

    @elliotc said:

    just not as greedy as so many other providers

    The outside world, I dont know.
    But...in my calculations, many LET providers are good at photosynthetic, and operating at a loss.

    Good at photosynthesis? So they are plant-based hosting providers? :D

    Not sure if it makes sense for people to operate at a loss. We do not.

    Nope, I mean their human body know how to photosynthesis since I dont know how they raise a family with this kind of profit margin. Btw, what I want to say is, I disagree with the greedy think, at least in LET (and other green forums).
    I personally helped a small local company get rid of 774.12 USD a year of shared hosting. The reason they reach me is because the Host ask for > 1000USD per year.

    Coffee, please.

  • larmaratlarmarat Member
    edited September 9

    YABS on the $4 plan:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2020-06-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Wed Sep  9 16:49:24 UTC 2020
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 v2 @ 2.50GHz
    CPU cores  : 12 @ 1200.053 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 1.9Gi
    Swap       : 119Gi
    df: no file systems processed
    Disk       :
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 47.36 MB/s   (11.8k) | 210.49 MB/s   (3.2k)
    Write      | 47.41 MB/s   (11.8k) | 211.59 MB/s   (3.3k)
    Total      | 94.78 MB/s   (23.6k) | 422.08 MB/s   (6.5k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 226.86 MB/s    (443) | 229.38 MB/s    (224)
    Write      | 238.91 MB/s    (466) | 244.65 MB/s    (238)
    Total      | 465.77 MB/s    (909) | 474.03 MB/s    (462)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider                  | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                              |                           |                 |
    Bouygues Telecom          | Paris, FR (10G)           | 555 Mbits/sec   | 1.57 Gbits/sec
    Online.net                | Paris, FR (10G)           | 477 Mbits/sec   | 1.62 Gbits/sec
    WorldStream               | The Netherlands (10G)     | 568 Mbits/sec   | 911 Mbits/sec
    wilhelm.tel               | Hamburg, DE (10G)         | 617 Mbits/sec   | 1.68 Gbits/sec
    Biznet                    | Bogor, Indonesia (1G)     | 21.2 Mbits/sec  | 163 Mbits/sec
    Hostkey                   | Moscow, RU (1G)           | 686 Mbits/sec   | 937 Mbits/sec
    Velocity Online           | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 231 Mbits/sec   | 650 Mbits/sec
    Airstream Comms           | Eau Claire, WI, US (10G)  | 202 Mbits/sec   | 575 Mbits/sec
    Hurricane Electric        | Fremont, CA, US (10G)     | 174 Mbits/sec   | 473 Mbits/sec
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider                  | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                              |                           |                 |
    Bouygues Telecom          | Paris, FR (10G)           | 417 Mbits/sec   | 1.61 Gbits/sec
    Online.net                | Paris, FR (10G)           | 515 Mbits/sec   | 894 Mbits/sec
    WorldStream               | The Netherlands (10G)     | busy            | 1.79 Gbits/sec
    wilhelm.tel               | Hamburg, DE (10G)         | 488 Mbits/sec   | 1.67 Gbits/sec
    Airstream Comms           | Eau Claire, WI, US (10G)  | 84.0 Mbits/sec  | 122 Mbits/sec
    Hurricane Electric        | Fremont, CA, US (10G)     | 151 Mbits/sec   | 528 Mbits/sec
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 513
    Multi Core      | 3362
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3671662
    

    I'm impressed with the quality of the site and the VPS, if performance stays like this you've got a new customer.

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @nullnothere said:

    @Webdock_io said: workarounds we have had to make, we are almost certain we are the only guys out there who have really nailed this.

    I wouldn't be surprised, considering that you're running an untrusted multi-tenant setup with somewhat dubious isolation (compared to KVM and maybe even OpenVZ which seems to have been more tested due to wider deployments/base).

    Isolation is always a concern and is something we have actively worked with since day 1. You can never know for absolutely certain, even conceivably with KVM, that there is not some esoteric zero-day waiting to happen, but that's just part of life.

    @Webdock_io said: Some OS's might work fine without much change, but for simplicity and to keep our codebase somewhat sane we have chosen to focus on Ubuntu as the stock OS.

    This is definitely a pain point for the intended consumer and I think you will have to support a wider variety of OSs somewhat stably to get serious traction.

    There's enough pain in LXC/LXD itself to deal with that being forced to also live with an "alien" OS is going to be brutal for a number of users.

    I suspect our core audience is not the user you have in mind. Our most requested OS has always been CentOS as people want to run Cpanel. We haven't really had much noise/requests for other operating systems, honestly. Your comments are noted however - I just think we as a team need to "identify" a clear-cut market before investing in supporting another OS.

    @Webdock_io said: We have no immediate plans on changing our profiles

    That's a bummer. It would have been nice to have some sort of a really low end plan for the Low Enders here to use as a VPN with wireguard at a much smaller price point than you have (despite your credit offer).

    What sort of price point and specifications would you suggest? I would be very interested to know! Also several of you mention Wireguard, I'll definitely be getting one of our engineers to go through that process and see what's involved.

    @Webdock_io said: Our LXD VPS servers behave (99%+) like any other VPS.

    I might give it a shot, but believe me, everytime I've used an LXC system, I've tripped up on it pretty hard that it locks me out fairly quickly. I've to specially treat many files inside /etc/ that it really blows me away to make so many exceptions. That time is better invested elsewhere unless there's some unique value to the VPS. You'll be surprised at how that 1% becomes so important inside /etc/ ...

    I am really quite unsure what you are refering to. I'd love for you to give us a spin and report back if you experience the same problems with us. This is the first time I hear of any shenanigans happening in /etc - but I'll have to check with an engineer whether I'm just out of the loop here somehow.

    Thanked by 1nullnothere
  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @larmarat said:
    YABS on the $4 plan:
    ...

    Nice, thanks for that!

    Thanked by 1larmarat
  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @elliotc said:

    @Webdock_io said:

    @elliotc said:

    just not as greedy as so many other providers

    The outside world, I dont know.
    But...in my calculations, many LET providers are good at photosynthetic, and operating at a loss.

    Good at photosynthesis? So they are plant-based hosting providers? :D

    Not sure if it makes sense for people to operate at a loss. We do not.

    Nope, I mean their human body know how to photosynthesis since I dont know how they raise a family with this kind of profit margin. Btw, what I want to say is, I disagree with the greedy think, at least in LET (and other green forums).
    I personally helped a small local company get rid of 774.12 USD a year of shared hosting. The reason they reach me is because the Host ask for > 1000USD per year.

    Hahaha ok I got it :) And fair enough - it pays to take a good look around!

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @larmarat said:
    YABS on the $4 plan:

    Oh and PS: Our Pro profiles are obviously much faster than this (better cpu/ram/nvme drives etc)

  • miumiu Member

    @Webdock_io said:

    @miu said:

    @chocolateshirt said:
    Any YABS/Monster @Webdock_io ?

    Exactly. Pls provide any YABS of offered plan, because only says 6 v cores most time mean nothing, bench will say much more or all

    I know providers (fair-sharing) when 1 vcore is more powerful than 6 cores together from else..

    I will check with an engineer to do a benchmark run with YABS and post back here

    this would be nice thank you

    • but you can also do so easily by yourself by spinning up a server and giving it a go. It's free to try after all :)

    i do not want robe providers useless about time (ask create server for trial and then cancel). When i see bench before then i can decide that i want / need it or not

    Also, you are absolutely correct. A very old Xeon with lots of threads can easily get its ass kicked by a single thread from a brand new (Ryzen or whatever) CPU.

    yes exactly this and these CPUs (Ryzen) i have on the mind:
    One thing are results from benchmarks and other real experinces with concrete software:
    most my software what i often use run on 1-2 cores Ryzens significantly more smooth and fast as with multiple core xeons. Ryzen is able bust modified and robust Woocommerces (what are unbelievable greedy for resources and CPU and able eat 100% of more xeons cores), are on the Ryzen running a much better, faster and with a lot less load. In short Ryzen is really miracle CPU in comparison with Xeons in performance.

    My FAVS / I am a fan of: HostHatch, LetBox, BuyVM, NexusBytes, Vultr, OVH, Hetzner, HostUS, HudsonVH, ExtraVM, CrownCloud

    THANKS for awesome services and excellent work!

  • miumiu Member

    @larmarat said:
    YABS on the $4 plan:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2020-06-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Wed Sep  9 16:49:24 UTC 2020
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 v2 @ 2.50GHz
    CPU cores  : 12 @ 1200.053 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 1.9Gi
    Swap       : 119Gi
    df: no file systems processed
    Disk       :
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 47.36 MB/s   (11.8k) | 210.49 MB/s   (3.2k)
    Write      | 47.41 MB/s   (11.8k) | 211.59 MB/s   (3.3k)
    Total      | 94.78 MB/s   (23.6k) | 422.08 MB/s   (6.5k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 226.86 MB/s    (443) | 229.38 MB/s    (224)
    Write      | 238.91 MB/s    (466) | 244.65 MB/s    (238)
    Total      | 465.77 MB/s    (909) | 474.03 MB/s    (462)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider                  | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                              |                           |                 |
    Bouygues Telecom          | Paris, FR (10G)           | 555 Mbits/sec   | 1.57 Gbits/sec
    Online.net                | Paris, FR (10G)           | 477 Mbits/sec   | 1.62 Gbits/sec
    WorldStream               | The Netherlands (10G)     | 568 Mbits/sec   | 911 Mbits/sec
    wilhelm.tel               | Hamburg, DE (10G)         | 617 Mbits/sec   | 1.68 Gbits/sec
    Biznet                    | Bogor, Indonesia (1G)     | 21.2 Mbits/sec  | 163 Mbits/sec
    Hostkey                   | Moscow, RU (1G)           | 686 Mbits/sec   | 937 Mbits/sec
    Velocity Online           | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 231 Mbits/sec   | 650 Mbits/sec
    Airstream Comms           | Eau Claire, WI, US (10G)  | 202 Mbits/sec   | 575 Mbits/sec
    Hurricane Electric        | Fremont, CA, US (10G)     | 174 Mbits/sec   | 473 Mbits/sec
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider                  | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                              |                           |                 |
    Bouygues Telecom          | Paris, FR (10G)           | 417 Mbits/sec   | 1.61 Gbits/sec
    Online.net                | Paris, FR (10G)           | 515 Mbits/sec   | 894 Mbits/sec
    WorldStream               | The Netherlands (10G)     | busy            | 1.79 Gbits/sec
    wilhelm.tel               | Hamburg, DE (10G)         | 488 Mbits/sec   | 1.67 Gbits/sec
    Airstream Comms           | Eau Claire, WI, US (10G)  | 84.0 Mbits/sec  | 122 Mbits/sec
    Hurricane Electric        | Fremont, CA, US (10G)     | 151 Mbits/sec   | 528 Mbits/sec
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 513
    Multi Core      | 3362
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3671662
    

    I'm impressed with the quality of the site and the VPS, if performance stays like this you've got a new customer.

    Finally, thanks a lot mate.
    This says more like thousands of word longer texts above..

    My FAVS / I am a fan of: HostHatch, LetBox, BuyVM, NexusBytes, Vultr, OVH, Hetzner, HostUS, HudsonVH, ExtraVM, CrownCloud

    THANKS for awesome services and excellent work!

  • @Webdock_io said: You can never know for absolutely certain, even conceivably with KVM, that there is not some esoteric zero-day waiting to happen

    True, but considering the rather huge deployment base (when compared to LXC for untrusted hosting like in the VPS world) I'm sure it'll get a lot more visibility very quickly (and hopefully also fixes). With LXC, it's really tricky as you likely won't even know soon enough.

    @Webdock_io said: I just think we as a team need to "identify" a clear-cut market before investing in supporting another OS.

    Fair enough, but please put Debian high on your list. It's close enough to Ubuntu that I'm sure you can iron out any kinks very quickly.

    @Webdock_io said: What sort of price point and specifications would you suggest?

    I really don't know but us cheapskates around here have been pampered in the past with 2GB RAM/20 GB Disk offers at €1/month from Aruba (recently deactivated unfortunately) and nothing less than a KVM at that! So there's a fairly steep expectation price/resource wise typically is what I would think. The only other LXC vendor I know of is TerraHost - so maybe look at their pricing and see where you can base line.

    @Webdock_io said: This is the first time I hear of any shenanigans happening in /etc

    Well, typical LXC hosts expect to overwrite (host node configured settings) a number of files in /etc/ and if they fail to do so, LXC won't boot. Then do make sure your kern.log file doesn't leak too much data into containers.

    In case I do test the waters, I'll be sure to reach out with any pain points to help you improve. Not something I'm itching to do in the near future though - so my apologies.

  • Already signed up long time ago, haven't try yet because of payment, glad to see new payment types in roadmap.

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @hiphiphip0 said:
    Already signed up long time ago, haven't try yet because of payment, glad to see new payment types in roadmap.

    Are you one of the guys having asked about Paypal? Well in that case, yes it's coming, soonish!

    Thanked by 1hiphiphip0
  • NyrNyr Member

    @Webdock_io said: What sort of price point and specifications would you suggest? I would be very interested to know! Also several of you mention Wireguard, I'll definitely be getting one of our engineers to go through that process and see what's involved.

    It could be possible to use WireGuard, in user space mode. You can try this:
    https://github.com/Nyr/wireguard-install

    Thanked by 1vimalware
  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider
    edited September 10

    @Nyr said:

    @Webdock_io said: What sort of price point and specifications would you suggest? I would be very interested to know! Also several of you mention Wireguard, I'll definitely be getting one of our engineers to go through that process and see what's involved.

    It could be possible to use WireGuard, in user space mode. You can try this:
    https://github.com/Nyr/wireguard-install

    I can confirm your installer script worked without a hitch on our servers and a tunnel came up nicely on a test client (and was arguably even easier than the already easy as chips OpenVPN installation guide we have)

    Would you mind us using/recommending your installer in a guide similar to:

    https://webdock.io/en/docs/how-guides/how-to-set-up-openvpn-your-webdock-server

    We would link to your Github page of course!

  • NyrNyr Member

    @Webdock_io said:

    @Nyr said:

    @Webdock_io said: What sort of price point and specifications would you suggest? I would be very interested to know! Also several of you mention Wireguard, I'll definitely be getting one of our engineers to go through that process and see what's involved.

    It could be possible to use WireGuard, in user space mode. You can try this:
    https://github.com/Nyr/wireguard-install

    I can confirm your installer script worked without a hitch on our servers and a tunnel came up nicely on a test client (and was arguably even easier than the already easy as chips OpenVPN installation guide we have)

    Would you mind us using/recommending your installer in a guide similar to:

    https://webdock.io/en/docs/how-guides/how-to-set-up-openvpn-your-webdock-server

    We would link to your Github page of course!

    Of course you can do that.

    Your OpenVPN guide already uses my work, https://git.io/vpn is a link which points to https://github.com/Nyr/openvpn-install

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @Nyr said:

    @Webdock_io said:

    @Nyr said:

    @Webdock_io said: What sort of price point and specifications would you suggest? I would be very interested to know! Also several of you mention Wireguard, I'll definitely be getting one of our engineers to go through that process and see what's involved.

    It could be possible to use WireGuard, in user space mode. You can try this:
    https://github.com/Nyr/wireguard-install

    I can confirm your installer script worked without a hitch on our servers and a tunnel came up nicely on a test client (and was arguably even easier than the already easy as chips OpenVPN installation guide we have)

    Would you mind us using/recommending your installer in a guide similar to:

    https://webdock.io/en/docs/how-guides/how-to-set-up-openvpn-your-webdock-server

    We would link to your Github page of course!

    Of course you can do that.

    Your OpenVPN guide already uses my work, https://git.io/vpn is a link which points to https://github.com/Nyr/openvpn-install

    That is fantastic! Great job on those scripts Nyr. I have had the dubious pleasure of a manual OpenVPN setup in the past, and your scripts are a breeze compared to that.

  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL Member, Provider, Top Provider

    @Webdock_io - I'm a bit jealous, you've problably been to our DC park in Tuusula/Helsinki, and I still haven't had a chance to go there yet. ;) --Katie

    We (Katie and Helena) will do our best to answer your Hetzner questions and pass on your feedback. Hetzner Online's not liable for any corny jokes that we make. (https://www.hetzner.com)

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @Hetzner_OL said:
    @Webdock_io - I'm a bit jealous, you've problably been to our DC park in Tuusula/Helsinki, and I still haven't had a chance to go there yet. ;) --Katie

    Hey Katie! Yes their facilities are really quite astounding. Really top notch and the staff there is super friendly as well! Great guys and girls over there. We forgot lunch one day and they came running down with food for us while we were setting up our racks :D

    So yeah, go visit the DC park in Helsinki if you get the chance, it's awesome :)

    Thanked by 1Hetzner_OL
  • When will the USA servers be back available?

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @doughnet said:
    When will the USA servers be back available?

    We expect/hope in about 3-4 weeks at the latest.

  • just deleted account, i don't like complicated ssh key

  • jsgjsg Member

    @Webdock_io

    119 Gi (presumably meaning 'GB') swap and 5 GB SSD?
    CPU 1200 MHz? Meaning 2 VM "cores" per phys. core?
    I don't care a lot about the usual disk benchmarks but from what I see there that SSD is not really fast.

    Thanks no.

  • TBF, that is one bizarre plan config.

    You're only making it inviting for miners or something.

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  • @Webdock_io
    since thats a whole lot of cores you are offering, good to use ur vps as media server?

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @pedagang said:
    just deleted account, i don't like complicated ssh key

    Hi Pedagang - can you explain what you mean by complicated? We really try to have a nice UI and the ssh key system is set up for easy reusability of keys you add in your account. I'd love to hear your thoughts on where we went wrong here.

  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @vimalware said:
    TBF, that is one bizarre plan config.

    You're only making it inviting for miners or something.

    Miners are not allowed, nor are neural networks or other sustained high-load utilization. Check out our terms and conditions for more info.

    Webdock is really built for web hosting. There a lot of accessible CPU is great for burstability and if you need to churn out pageviews in a hurry, or have periodic jobs that need to do some work (like api / content ingestion ) or the like.

    I think the only metric that really sticks out to you is RAM/Disk vs. CPU, right?

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  • Webdock_ioWebdock_io Member, Provider

    @jsg said:
    @Webdock_io

    119 Gi (presumably meaning 'GB') swap and 5 GB SSD?
    CPU 1200 MHz? Meaning 2 VM "cores" per phys. core?
    I don't care a lot about the usual disk benchmarks but from what I see there that SSD is not really fast.

    On our Micro plans our SSD's are very "typical" SSD drives. Our Pro and Premium profiles have raid'ed nvme drives. So those are extremely fast.

    However, it's tough to get a good benchmark on a zfs backed setup due to the ARC cache and all sorts of other things which give you strange numbers to say the least

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