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cyberpanel / directadmin

I lurk here for some time now. you guys introduced me to directadmin as I'm already a cyberpanel user, so I grabbed a trial version and gave it a go.
In my opinion that lack a ton of technical perspective here is (some of) what I found.

1- cyberpanel is easier to deal with.
2- cyberpanel has better SSL issuing (no wild card, but who cares) than directadmin.
3- cyberpanel greatly lack support.
4- Cyberpanel has nice Cloudflare API integration.
4- Directadmin have way more features. but the lack of documentation makes a harder learning curve.
5- Directadmin SSL is so weird, especially if you have Cloudflare as a frontline defense.
6- Directadmin CustomBuild is a really good feature, it will be greater if it's well documented.
7- Directadmin has a nice firewall integration.

those notes are not from 'provider' point of view, as I'm not and not planning to.
I know DA is paid while Cyperpanel is free, but hey both are not Cpanel or Plesk.

this post is not meant to compare both panels, but its more to encourage you to post whats you really like about DA, why you prefer it, what the small tiny detail you like the most that saved you time implementing manually.

So please tell me, why you like DA (other than price tag) over any other panels except Cpanel or Plesk.

Comments

  • elliotcelliotc Member

    Directadmin is more popular, and thats must providers need because it is what customers want.

    Coffee, please.

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Provider

    DirectAdmin has way more features and is so simple to use you don't need documentation.

    DirectAdmin uses Let's Encrypt which is way easy to use. I have never had anyone complain. You just pick your domain and key length and type and click Save and you are done.

    If software needs a manual then its too complicated or the person using it is not qualified to do what they are trying to do. When I opened DirectAdmin for the first time it was so intuitive documentation was not needed. The menu system was so self explanatory.

    DirectAdmin lacks nothing. Its simply the best for the last 15 years that I have used it.

    Floyd Morrissette - DirectAdmin Expert
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  • @LittleCreek said: DirectAdmin uses Let's Encrypt which is way easy to use. I have never had anyone complain. You just pick your domain and key length and type and click Save and you are done.

    I had issues with it when I have my domain pointed to Cloudflare nameservers. for CDN and proxy security.

    and any software needs documentation. that's a fact and industry standards.

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Provider

    But that's a Let's Encrypt problem not DirectAdmin.

    Floyd Morrissette - DirectAdmin Expert
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  • yokowasisyokowasis Member
    edited June 17

    @mezoology said:

    @LittleCreek said: DirectAdmin uses Let's Encrypt which is way easy to use. I have never had anyone complain. You just pick your domain and key length and type and click Save and you are done.

    I had issues with it when I have my domain pointed to Cloudflare nameservers. for CDN and proxy security.

    and any software needs documentation. that's a fact and industry standards.

    How is that a problem? As long as the verification method is using domain name. Never had any problem. Perhaps you forget to add www subdomain. Because by default let's encrypt also verify www subdomain.

  • @yokowasis said: How is that a problem? As long as the verification method is using domain name. Never had any problem. Perhaps you forget to add www subdomain. Because by default let's encrypt also verify www subdomain.

    you can not verify your domain to get SSL from LE unless that domain is greyed on CF
    Also if you may, can you share specifically what you like about DA ?

  • darvildarvil Member

    Since you're connected to CF, why do you need letsencrypt? Did you try getting a free SSL from CF (origin) which is valid for 15 years? then install that on your DA SSL section.

  • lonealonea Member, Provider

    It comes down to how much stability you want.

    I think DA is close to 18 years in business? and Cyberpanel is 1-2 years?

    Not to mention DA have an actual team of developers. I think Cyberpanel is a one man band?

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  • @lonea said: I think Cyberpanel is a one man band?

    It's open source with some occasional contributors but IIRC, they have a security engineer and one more core developer. Not sure if the latter is still in team.

    ^-^!

  • @lonea said: I think DA is close to 18 years in business? and Cyberpanel is 1-2 years?

    that's true. that's why I'm trying to get convinced to buy it.
    the point of this post is trying to get the people using it to share their DA 'hacks'. maybe enlightens me to something I didn't know about it.

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Provider

    Its not much that has to be hacked. It just simply works as intended. I can't think of anything it is lacking. Cpanel had a lot of extra stuff that a few people might want but not the majority. DirectAdmin is lightweight and fast.

    Floyd Morrissette - DirectAdmin Expert
    LittleCreekHosting.com - VPS specials

  • I didn't like directadmin , it doesn't have bruteforce protection out of box and lacks many features
    Plesk is best panel in my opinion , They provide good support and it's cheaper If you buy it from hetzner , it cost only 18.70 euro for unlimited account

  • @mustafamw3 said: it's cheaper If you buy it from hetzner , it cost only 18.70 euro for unlimited account

    sadly it only comes with dedi not vps

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Directadmin needs documentation? I tried it out a while ago and seemed pretty easy to me. UI was pretty much self explanatory.

    If you are going to use Plesk, just use Cpanel. Both are owned by the same company.

    I have not created a single thread. Verify it if you dare.

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Provider

    @mustafamw3 said:
    I didn't like directadmin , it doesn't have bruteforce protection out of box

    Actually it does. Its on by default.

    Floyd Morrissette - DirectAdmin Expert
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  • WebProjectWebProject Member, Provider

    @elliotc said:
    Directadmin is more popular, and thats must providers need because it is what customers want.

    Before cPanel updated their prices the DA wasn’t popular, so it picked customer base purely on price structure.

    Plesk is great as alternative to cPanel.

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  • @deank said: If you are going to use Plesk, just use Cpanel. Both are owned by the same company.

    >
    They may increase license price in the future
    but no one guarantees that directadmin won't rise their license price

  • @mezoology said: sadly it only comes with dedi not vps

    >

    still cheaper than directadmin if you buy it directly from plesk store , it cost 25$ for unlimited account

    Directadmin is great panel with good GUI but it lacks many features and you have to be familiar with cli to perform some task

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Provider

    @mustafamw3 said:

    Directadmin is great panel with good GUI but it lacks many features and you have to be familiar with cli to perform some task

    People keep saying it lacks many features but I haven't found any its missing that are really necessary and not just fluff.

    Floyd Morrissette - DirectAdmin Expert
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  • @mustafamw3 said: still cheaper than directadmin if you buy it directly from plesk store , it cost 25$ for unlimited account

    I'm not a provider, so I only need the smallest package, and yes Plesk is the best one of what I looked into, I loved the Grafana thing, WP kit, security features. and CF API.
    and I hated the idea that DA charges you an extra $2/m if you wanted 1-click app installation.

  • mustafamw3mustafamw3 Member
    edited June 17

    @mezoology said: I'm not a provider, so I only need the smallest package, and yes Plesk is the best one of what I looked into, I loved the Grafana thing, WP kit, security features. and CF API.
    and I hated the idea that DA charges you an extra $2/m if you wanted 1-click app installation.

    Buy a vps from buyvm and you will get free directadmin with free Softaculous license

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Provider

    @mustafamw3 said:

    and I hated the idea that DA charges you an extra $2/m if you wanted 1-click app installation.

    Actually its Softaculous that charges the extra $2. Many hosting providers will throw that in if they are getting enough for the VPS. DirectAdmin does not have a builtin 1-click app installer.

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  • @mezoology said:

    @yokowasis said: How is that a problem? As long as the verification method is using domain name. Never had any problem. Perhaps you forget to add www subdomain. Because by default let's encrypt also verify www subdomain.

    you can not verify your domain to get SSL from LE unless that domain is greyed on CF
    Also if you may, can you share specifically what you like about DA ?

    Actually you can. All the verification need is for it find the folder. .well-known on domain. The cloud flare doesn't block well known folder. Can't see the reason why cloud flare would make the verification failed on the let's encrypt.

    I can think of 2 scenario. You don't point the domain correctly, or you the use force ssl on the cloud flare.

    Cloud flare doesn't change the response of your server on any way. So there shouldn't be a reason for le verification failed.

  • ViridWebViridWeb Member, Provider

    @mustafamw3 said:

    @deank said: If you are going to use Plesk, just use Cpanel. Both are owned by the same company.

    >
    They may increase license price in the future
    but no one guarantees that directadmin won't rise their license price

    Actually Directadmin do provide guaranteed protection from rising price on its present licenses.

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  • KodisKodis Member

    Cyberpanel is free?
    For one domain... :)

  • WebProjectWebProject Member, Provider

    @ViridWeb said:

    @mustafamw3 said:

    @deank said: If you are going to use Plesk, just use Cpanel. Both are owned by the same company.

    >
    They may increase license price in the future
    but no one guarantees that directadmin won't rise their license price

    Actually Directadmin do provide guaranteed protection from rising price on its present licenses.

    Have you got specific in writing that in 10-20 years time you pay the same? What do you get if they do increase? Compensation or double difference back if they do increase? As no one can guarantee that due to various factors.

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  • doughnetdoughnet Member
    edited June 18

    @Kodis said:
    Cyberpanel is free?
    For one domain... :)

    Thanks for the enterprise version. Isn’t the OLS version free for unlimited domains?

    Edit: yes. Stated here
    https://cyberpanel.net/docs/installing-cyberpanel/

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  • elliotcelliotc Member

    @lonea said:
    It comes down to how much stability you want.

    I think DA is close to 18 years in business? and Cyberpanel is 1-2 years?

    Not to mention DA have an actual team of developers. I think Cyberpanel is a one man band?

    Cyberpanel is developed by the litespeed company. Correct me if I am wrong. But I think cyberpanel is not productive yet. At least not sell it to anyone.

    Coffee, please.

  • ViridWebViridWeb Member, Provider

    @WebProject said:

    @ViridWeb said:

    @mustafamw3 said:

    @deank said: If you are going to use Plesk, just use Cpanel. Both are owned by the same company.

    >
    They may increase license price in the future
    but no one guarantees that directadmin won't rise their license price

    Actually Directadmin do provide guaranteed protection from rising price on its present licenses.

    Have you got specific in writing that in 10-20 years time you pay the same? What do you get if they do increase? Compensation or double difference back if they do increase? As no one can guarantee that due to various factors.

    Hope you are not blind or I'm not wrong. Check their plans they cleary saying "Protection against price increases"

    @DA_Mark can you please confirm that if I'm right or wrong?

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Personally speaking, asking for "price protection" is a senseless thing.

    Everything goes up in price. Just compare your bills from few years ago with today's. Ask your wife about grocery bills. She will say it's been going up.

    I have not created a single thread. Verify it if you dare.

  • ViridWebViridWeb Member, Provider

    @deank said:
    Personally speaking, asking for "price protection" is a senseless thing.

    Everything goes up in price. Just compare your bills from few years ago with today's. Ask your wife about grocery bills. She will say it's been going up.

    Yep. It's not possible to stick with same price forever.
    I'm just saying what I have read from their pricing plans.

    Hope this is true what we saw on the pricing.

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  • WebProjectWebProject Member, Provider

    @ViridWeb said: Hope you are not blind or I'm not wrong. Check their plans they cleary saying "Protection against price increases"

    anyone can state on any websites the "Protection against price increases" but it doesn't mean anything nowadays.

    Example: Under UK law the travel companies who are failing to fulfil their part of contract need to provide customers with refund within 14 days, but the holidays companies are trying to avoid any cash refund due to coronavirus and they short of cash, next year it will be other excuse like flue 2021, year after some other BS.

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Wat, are we supposed to believe that a web host is #1 in the world if their website says so?

    I have not created a single thread. Verify it if you dare.

  • DA_MarkDA_Mark Member

    We consider subscriptions locked-in. There's some customers who have had the same subscription going for over 15 years now. Of course, that's not the same as guaranteeing 15 years from now they can get more licenses for that same price. People who used to buy lifetime licenses cannot get more lifetime licenses now, for example.

    But it is also fair to say that protection against price increases has limited value. Let's say inflation was so bad that $15/month is now worthless. Sure you have "protection against price increases" but our licenses are no-strings-attached (anyone can cancel at any time; nobody is indebted for life). We'd be forced to cancel it and say we can't afford to have you as a customer any more.

    Ultimately, it comes down to choosing who you want to do business with. We've always been more than fair and probably have the best track-record of price stability out of anyone. There's plenty of DA criticism out there but you won't see much relating to greed and opportunistic tactics.

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  • hennaboyhennaboy Member

    Both are great panels. I just want to get that in there straight away.

    I am an active support / dev member of cyberpanel and its not a one-man band at all. There are currently 3 team members with contributors and support is provided through tickets, forum, discord and facebook.

    Cyberpanel is of course the new kid on the block. As such will lack features! Its pretty difficult to think of everything at once so its a work in progress. For example, 2.0.2-dev branch has google drive backups done at the request of the many.

    It does not limit the number of domains you can host. That is only a restriction for litespeed enterprise licensing as it is with any other panel that you can install litespeed enterprise.

    It is a litespeed project. But opensource so developed by the main dev plus contributors and volunteers just like myself for example. I am not a litespeed employee.

  • One thing that direct admin doesn't have. DOCKER MANAGER. Which mean you get to manage your website along with docker container from one place.

  • LittleCreekLittleCreek Member, Provider

    DirectAdmin also doesn't open my beer for me.

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  • HosthinkHosthink Member

    Directadmin is better. Cyberpanel needs a year or two to catch up with the Directadmin.

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