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Recommended great value dedi with HIGH cpu for encoding, ram unimportant, around 200gb HD?

lowendguy7lowendguy7 Member
edited March 16 in Providers

Those specs will do.

I would like to spend most of the budget on processor as that is most important for encoding. Ram is insignificant, I think 2gb would be fine, HD 200 would suffice I think, maybe even 100gb.

Most dedi options seem an 'even spread' of specs across CPU/ram/HD so in such cases that is wasting money for me. Any that can be custom made to max out CPU for what I am paying with min ram and modest HDD?

Suggestions?

As for price I am open but under $100 per month. I want to test first to see how much more productivity I get out of a dedi/better specs vs my current dual $5 per month contabos. So maybe around $50 dollar per month price tag and check the productivity increase and go from there. But would like to hear options across that price range; anything under $100 given the specs I stated.

EDIT: looking at the current HD usage of the contabo servers which have 200GB I am using less than 50% of that so probably 100gb would do fine if it meant saving a few dollars and giving more available to allot to more cpu horsepower.

Comments

  • probably ur best best is just heizner auction or preoreder their AX51-NVME(ryzen 3700x).

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  • PulsedMediaPulsedMedia Member, Provider

    We custom build the zen minidedis, but offering just 120GB SSD does not make business sense for us sadly :( Still you can get Ryzen 3400G fairly cheap with 256G NVMe OS drive.

    Due to the current situation however delivery times are quite long.

  • AC_FanAC_Fan Member

    If the only requirement is best CPU for the money, the AX41 is pretty much unbeatable. Grab the NVMe variant and go to town.

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  • KaribuKaribu Member

    I am using as well CPU intensive tasks. (CPU rendering, computing,..)

    I've tried Joe Datacenter and their 2x X5650 (34 USD), Reprise hosting and their 2x E5-2650L v2 (50 USD) and Reliable site and their AMD Ryzen 3900X (80 USD).
    In pure ratio CPU perf/price, X5650 is 1st, then Ryzen, then 2650L.

    I think the ServDiscount and 1700x will be a good choice as well.

    On the paper, the best I found for CPU perf / price is VPSRUS
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/162573/dedicated-at-18-00-check-inside#latest for their Dual Xeon X5680 followed by Dual L5640 . But all out of stock.

  • @AC_Fan said:
    If the only requirement is best CPU for the money, the AX41 is pretty much unbeatable. Grab the NVMe variant and go to town.

    Useful to know what company you are talking about...

    @Karibu said:
    I am using as well CPU intensive tasks. (CPU rendering, computing,..)

    I've tried Joe Datacenter and their 2x X5650 (34 USD), Reprise hosting and their 2x E5-2650L v2 (50 USD) and Reliable site and their AMD Ryzen 3900X (80 USD).
    In pure ratio CPU perf/price, X5650 is 1st, then Ryzen, then 2650L.

    I think the ServDiscount and 1700x will be a good choice as well.

    On the paper, the best I found for CPU perf / price is VPSRUS
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/162573/dedicated-at-18-00-check-inside#latest for their Dual Xeon X5680 followed by Dual L5640 . But all out of stock.

    Thanks, will look into these in a couple days.

    Ditto. Will have to sniff further to see what will suit me best.

  • NeoonNeoon Member

    @lowendguy7 said:

    @AC_Fan said:
    If the only requirement is best CPU for the money, the AX41 is pretty much unbeatable. Grab the NVMe variant and go to town.

    Useful to know what company you are talking about...

    @Karibu said:
    I am using as well CPU intensive tasks. (CPU rendering, computing,..)

    I've tried Joe Datacenter and their 2x X5650 (34 USD), Reprise hosting and their 2x E5-2650L v2 (50 USD) and Reliable site and their AMD Ryzen 3900X (80 USD).
    In pure ratio CPU perf/price, X5650 is 1st, then Ryzen, then 2650L.

    I think the ServDiscount and 1700x will be a good choice as well.

    On the paper, the best I found for CPU perf / price is VPSRUS
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/162573/dedicated-at-18-00-check-inside#latest for their Dual Xeon X5680 followed by Dual L5640 . But all out of stock.

    Thanks, will look into these in a couple days.

    Ditto. Will have to sniff further to see what will suit me best.

    Take a lot at https://en.metadedi.net you can sort by cpu benchmark, so you can get the cheapest right ahead.

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  • AC_FanAC_Fan Member

    @lowendguy7 said:

    @AC_Fan said:
    If the only requirement is best CPU for the money, the AX41 is pretty much unbeatable. Grab the NVMe variant and go to town.

    Useful to know what company you are talking about...

    @Karibu said:
    I am using as well CPU intensive tasks. (CPU rendering, computing,..)

    I've tried Joe Datacenter and their 2x X5650 (34 USD), Reprise hosting and their 2x E5-2650L v2 (50 USD) and Reliable site and their AMD Ryzen 3900X (80 USD).
    In pure ratio CPU perf/price, X5650 is 1st, then Ryzen, then 2650L.

    I think the ServDiscount and 1700x will be a good choice as well.

    On the paper, the best I found for CPU perf / price is VPSRUS
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/162573/dedicated-at-18-00-check-inside#latest for their Dual Xeon X5680 followed by Dual L5640 . But all out of stock.

    Thanks, will look into these in a couple days.

    Ditto. Will have to sniff further to see what will suit me best.

    Hetzner is love. Hetzner is life. In addition to metaDedi, you can also use ServerHunter and sort by CPU Benchmark per Dollar, in which the AX41 is one of the top contenders.

  • Love the shit out of my ex42. 40e/month and Prob never drop it unless upgrade to ex62 when no setup fee deal comes back around. Really can't beat the specs

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  • lowendguy7lowendguy7 Member
    edited July 30

    Any update on this? I was trying metadedi and serverhunter sites for comparing and couldn't really understand it what filters to use for my case :blush:

    Hetzner seems like a favorite here. I have used them before and happy but always interested in hearing about what else is out there.

    What about the options where I can pay only for CPU and HD? most beefy cpu options have huge ram as well which costs a lot so it is a big waste of money for me as ram is a large part of the monthly fee with those options. Would like a custom build of huge cpu and only a couple gigs of ram and modest HD.

    Hmm I might look into @PulsedMedia , wow 3 - 4 weeks setup time! Nobody got time fo dat! I wanna test quickly month by month.

  • AC_FanAC_Fan Member

    @lowendguy7 said:
    Any update on this? I was trying metadedi and serverhunter sites for comparing and couldn't really understand it what filters to use for my case :blush:

    Hetzner seems like a favorite here. I have used them before and happy but always interested in hearing about what else is out there.

    What about the options where I can pay only for CPU and HD? most beefy cpu options have huge ram as well which costs a lot so it is a big waste of money for me as ram is a large part of the monthly fee with those options. Would like a custom build of huge cpu and only a couple gigs of ram and modest HD.

    Hmm I might look into @PulsedMedia , wow 3 - 4 weeks setup time! Nobody got time fo dat! I wanna test quickly month by month.

    Sort by price per CPU benchmark on the websites, with appropriate filters (SSDs etc.), The components aren't the only cost, building that stuff takes time (and therefore money) too.

    Bottom line: Best CPU value is a X5650 dedi from Joe's Datacenter or an AX41 in Finland from the Hetzner Marketplace (to save the setup fee).

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  • lowendguy7lowendguy7 Member
    edited July 30

    @AC_Fan said:

    Sort by price per CPU benchmark on the websites, with appropriate filters (SSDs etc.), The components aren't the only cost, building that stuff takes time (and therefore money) too.

    Bottom line: Best CPU value is a X5650 dedi from Joe's Datacenter or an AX41 in Finland from the Hetzner Marketplace (to save the setup fee).

    Thanks, will those two both be fast setup? because I don't wanna wait weeks since I wanna see if it works for me then switch if needed so waiting that long each time is unfeasible.

    EDIT: oh joe's looks nice! only 8 gigs so not wasting on ram costs, I know nothing of modern cpus so I take your word those ones are good!

    EDIT2: oh you said joe's is best performance but the metadedi bench for the x5650 is 10361 vs 17824 for hetzner which puts hetzner at almost double the performance! So what made you say x5650 is the best?

  • AC_FanAC_Fan Member
    edited July 30

    @lowendguy7 said:

    @AC_Fan said:

    Sort by price per CPU benchmark on the websites, with appropriate filters (SSDs etc.), The components aren't the only cost, building that stuff takes time (and therefore money) too.

    Bottom line: Best CPU value is a X5650 dedi from Joe's Datacenter or an AX41 in Finland from the Hetzner Marketplace (to save the setup fee).

    Thanks, will those two both be fast setup? because I don't wanna wait weeks since I wanna see if it works for me then switch if needed so waiting that long each time is unfeasible.

    EDIT: oh joe's looks nice! only 8 gigs so not wasting on ram costs, I know nothing of modern cpus so I take your word those ones are good!

    EDIT2: oh you said joe's is best performance but the metadedi bench for the x5650 is 10361 vs 17824 for hetzner which puts hetzner at almost double the performance! So what made you say x5650 is the best?

    The metadedi site uses PassMark scores, but for encoding, 2*single CPU score is more accurate than the PassMark Dual CPU score.

    By taking average of the PassMark and Geekbench scores, the 3600 is roughly 28% more powerful. The Joe's Datacenter dedi is 34 USD, and 34*1.28 USD is roughly 37 euros, which is just a bit more than the AX41's price in Finland (34 euros). The AX41 is definitely the better system overall, but if you need literally only the CPU, and are willing to make major cuts in everything else, you can save 6% with the X5650 system.

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  • @AC_Fan said:

    The metadedi site uses PassMark scores, but for encoding, 2*single CPU score is more accurate than the PassMark Dual CPU score.

    Thanks for clarifying but what do you mean here? You are saying it is or isn't more powerful, didn't understand. You later said the hetzner is 28% more powerful so was not clear on that. I would take 28% more power for 6% more price :), but if the X5650 is somehow still more powerful? then I will take that. Basically whichever has most CPU power for encoding is the one I will take regardless of price.

  • AC_FanAC_Fan Member

    @lowendguy7 said:

    @AC_Fan said:

    The metadedi site uses PassMark scores, but for encoding, 2*single CPU score is more accurate than the PassMark Dual CPU score.

    Thanks for clarifying but what do you mean here? You are saying it is or isn't more powerful, didn't understand. You later said the hetzner is 28% more powerful so was not clear on that. I would take 28% more power for 6% more price :), but if the X5650 is somehow still more powerful? then I will take that. Basically whichever has most CPU power for encoding is the one I will take regardless of price.

    If you consider strictly performance, the AX41 is better (28% more performance). But, if you consider value (performance per dollar), the X5650 is roughly 6% better.
    Does that make sense?

  • @AC_Fan said:

    @lowendguy7 said:

    @AC_Fan said:

    The metadedi site uses PassMark scores, but for encoding, 2*single CPU score is more accurate than the PassMark Dual CPU score.

    Thanks for clarifying but what do you mean here? You are saying it is or isn't more powerful, didn't understand. You later said the hetzner is 28% more powerful so was not clear on that. I would take 28% more power for 6% more price :), but if the X5650 is somehow still more powerful? then I will take that. Basically whichever has most CPU power for encoding is the one I will take regardless of price.

    If you consider strictly performance, the AX41 is better (28% more performance). But, if you consider value (performance per dollar), the X5650 is roughly 6% better.
    Does that make sense?

    Still not quite :). I mean 28% performance increase for 6% more price seems better no?

  • edited July 30

    28% performance difference is not quite sense.. ugh.. ryzen 5 3600 performance should be more than 70% better than dual xeon x5650..

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  • AC_FanAC_Fan Member
    edited July 30

    @lowendguy7 said:

    @AC_Fan said:

    @lowendguy7 said:

    @AC_Fan said:

    The metadedi site uses PassMark scores, but for encoding, 2*single CPU score is more accurate than the PassMark Dual CPU score.

    Thanks for clarifying but what do you mean here? You are saying it is or isn't more powerful, didn't understand. You later said the hetzner is 28% more powerful so was not clear on that. I would take 28% more power for 6% more price :), but if the X5650 is somehow still more powerful? then I will take that. Basically whichever has most CPU power for encoding is the one I will take regardless of price.

    If you consider strictly performance, the AX41 is better (28% more performance). But, if you consider value (performance per dollar), the X5650 is roughly 6% better.
    Does that make sense?

    Still not quite :). I mean 28% performance increase for 6% more price seems better no?

    Dual X5650 = y score
    Ryzen 3600 = 1.28*y score

    Ryzen 3600 Dedi = x score per dollar
    Dual X5650 Dedi: 1.06*x score per dollar

    Purely score: Ryzen wins.
    Score per dollar: Dual X5650 wins.

    Am I clear enough?

  • AC_FanAC_Fan Member

    @chocolateshirt said:
    28% performance difference is not quite sense.. ugh.. ryzen 5 3600 performance should be more than 70% better than dual xeon x5650..

    I mean, you can check the PassMark and Geekbench scores. Plus, it's 12 cores on the dual Xeon vs 6 cores on the Ryzen. Even old Xeons count for something.

  • Sure I get it, I just checked passmark myself. That equations were making it more confusing.

    Well raw (cpu) performance is more important than price per dollar so I think I will go with hetzner. Thanks for helping me make up my mind.

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  • TeYroXTeYroX Member

    I currently have Dual Xeon 5520 24GB RAM 240GB SSD + 3TB for 20$ and it's idling in NOCIX. I don't know if its possible to transfer it but you are interested I can ask them :)

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  • lowendguy7lowendguy7 Member
    edited July 31

    Btw why is there no setup for finland server at hetzner vs the other places?

    Oh I get it, it's because it is from 'marketplace'.

    EDIT: Oh..I see the marketplace is just servers that were cancelled by someone else? Well there is no ax41 available so I am not waiting around in the hopes one might turn up one day. I see some ryzens here, but not ax41 so I guess I should just look to see if any of those available servers come close to the ax41?

    Hmm I don't see ax41 available from my dashboard anyway! Maybe it is over to joe after all! (if he isn't out of stock too).

  • PulsedMediaPulsedMedia Member, Provider

    @lowendguy7 said: Hmm I might look into @PulsedMedia , wow 3 - 4 weeks setup time! Nobody got time fo dat! I wanna test quickly month by month.

    Sorry indeed, we are a bit slow on deliveries. We are small business and do not stock dedis typically (except some models, those are being sold as MDS) and do not yet have automation for dedis as our main business is seedboxes.

    On the flip side of the coin, we can do hell of a lot of customization on user needs :)

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  • @TeYroX said:
    I currently have Dual Xeon 5520 24GB RAM 240GB SSD + 3TB for 20$ and it's idling in NOCIX. I don't know if its possible to transfer it but you are interested I can ask them :)

    Hi if OP does not want this I would be very interested, I have been trying to find a server like this in the 20 dollar range for some time :) Thanks!!

  • Adam1Adam1 Member

    @buzzyLET said: I have been trying to find a server like this in the 20 dollar range for some time

    Have you looked at KimSufi? https://www.kimsufi.com/us/en/servers.xml

    You may have to wait a short while for a KS-9, but the KS-6,KS-8 and KS-10 servers are usually available.

  • @Adam1 said:

    @buzzyLET said: I have been trying to find a server like this in the 20 dollar range for some time

    Have you looked at KimSufi? https://www.kimsufi.com/us/en/servers.xml

    You may have to wait a short while for a KS-9, but the KS-6,KS-8 and KS-10 servers are usually available.

    Yes, I have, I even previously had a specially priced KS-10 with them I think. The problem is that even at the special price and certainly at the normal price, the specs are really quite bad vs paying just 5 dollars more at other providers. It's a price point where I can get more for a VPS or hybrid VPS with dedicated cores at a way lower price, or much more for only a cople of dollars more per month. Unfortunately I am fixed to this price point. But it does seem like the servers at Wholesaleinternet/NOCIX have sales for slightly more modern hardware with different specs (an SSD + Sata) that Kimsufi doesn't have.

    I wish that SoYouStart would have a sale so one of those could be in that range, I would be all about that, but I'm going to be doing some video stuff with this server and want a more modern CPU for that

  • Adam1Adam1 Member
    edited August 7

    @buzzyLET said: I wish that SoYouStart would have a sale so one of those could be in that range

    They recently had their summer sale, a few weeks back

    I've had my KS-9 for years now, and still I cannot find something better for $20. I'd like more RAM if anything.

  • lowendguy7lowendguy7 Member
    edited October 9

    Could you guys comment what would be closes to the ax41 of those available in the marketplace currently on hetzner (or any update for other companies which compete for that spec/pricepoint since I first made my post) as the ax41 is not listed of available ones there.

    Maybe I will just pay the setup for for a 'new' ax41? unless there are as good/better ones on the marketplace? I am not good with specs; last time I updated my computer was 2013! I guess just search filter for ryzen and see if any come up within my budget for hetzner.

  • You wont find anything near that price in even Auction. If anything the only gripe I have with AX41 is that its a consumer CPU (not that it matters too much) rather than actual server hardware. But seeing the Xeons in Auction with 64gigs of ram and nvme...meh. Go with the AX I'd say.

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  • lowendguy7lowendguy7 Member
    edited October 9

    @serv_ee said:
    You wont find anything near that price in even Auction. If anything the only gripe I have with AX41 is that its a consumer CPU (not that it matters too much) rather than actual server hardware. But seeing the Xeons in Auction with 64gigs of ram and nvme...meh. Go with the AX I'd say.

    Just going through the thread again and joe's datacenter seems the clear winner for price/performance.

    The ax41 is £40 + 40 setup, and on https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/ the score for AMD Ryzen 5 3600 is 201.

    Conversely, joe's has no setup fee while the xeon X5650 shows 72 average bench so x 2 = 144; so a bit less performance but saving a lot on the setup fee for for not that much less performance cpu wise.

    PS why would you care it is consumer vs. server hardware? All that matters are the performance figures no?

  • serv_eeserv_ee Member
    edited October 9

    Sure, if you are willing to go with a 10 year old CPU and with the max speed of just a little over 3GHz on turbo.

    But surely it all depends on your workloads as well.

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  • @chocolateshirt said:
    28% performance difference is not quite sense.. ugh.. ryzen 5 3600 performance should be more than 70% better than dual xeon x5650..

    Hmm why does this guy say 70% rather than 28%? I certainly would be willing to pay the extra for ax41 if indeed it was a 70% difference but where did they get that figure from? as they gave no reasoning for it.

    @serv_ee said:
    Sure, if you are willing to go with a 10 year old CPU and with the max speed of just a little over 3GHz on turbo.

    But surely it all depends on your workloads as well.

    Well as I said in my OP I want to do video encoding so cpu perfomance is paramount. Why does the age matter if the results were there in black and white? You just have some bias against 'old hardware'?

  • serv_eeserv_ee Member
    edited October 9

    Nice way to jump into conclusions.

    Depending on your software (if its capable of using multi-threaded workflow) the Ryzen will still happily beat those two x-s on dual socket.

    As for "bias against old hardware" - sure I do buddy. So much that I got two Opterons at home that are older than that Intel x one. I got three Xeon servers from Hetzner that are just a tad newer than that. Clearly biased.

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  • @AC_Fan said:

    Bottom line: Best CPU value is a X5650 dedi from Joe's Datacenter or an AX41 in Finland from the Hetzner Marketplace (to save the setup fee).

    How come this guy said ax41 from finland incurs no setup fee? Or maybe they meant that just happened to be available on the marketplace at the time?

  • AC_FanAC_Fan Member

    @lowendguy7 said:

    @AC_Fan said:

    Bottom line: Best CPU value is a X5650 dedi from Joe's Datacenter or an AX41 in Finland from the Hetzner Marketplace (to save the setup fee).

    How come this guy said ax41 from finland incurs no setup fee? Or maybe they meant that just happened to be available on the marketplace at the time?

    Yup, I was referring to the marketplace.

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  • lowendguy7lowendguy7 Member
    edited October 9

    @serv_ee said:
    Nice way to jump into conclusions.

    Depending on your software (if its capable of using multi-threaded workflow) the Ryzen will still happily beat those two x-s on dual socket.

    As for "bias against old hardware" - sure I do buddy. So much that I got two Opterons at home that are older than that Intel x one. I got three Xeon servers from Hetzner that are just a tad newer than that. Clearly biased.

    Thanks for clarifying, indeed we know the performance is better always for the ryzen but the question is if the performance increase is so much that it justifies the extra $40 bucks for setup fees. If it is in the 70% range like the dude said then certainly it would be a no brainer for me, but as I said, I have no idea where they got that figure.

    I will be using ffmpeg to encode videos so maybe that helps to know in terms of how much better functionality the ryzen may have?

  • That I cant say. Im at work and dont have that much time on my hands to look into it that "deeply".

    You should, however, benefit from the faster ram somewhat. (ddr3/ddr4)

    I get that your point is to save the money on the setup fee like a lot of us but then again I get why hosts want that. In the end you need to come to your own conclusions on what to use.

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  • Is there any specific location you are looking for?

  • @netcetera said:
    Is there any specific location you are looking for?

    no.

  • @AC_Fan said:
    If the only requirement is best CPU for the money, the AX41 is pretty much unbeatable. Grab the NVMe variant and go to town.

    So there are both nvme and non nvme available? What is the diff/reason for going nvme?

  • @lowendguy7 said:

    @AC_Fan said:
    If the only requirement is best CPU for the money, the AX41 is pretty much unbeatable. Grab the NVMe variant and go to town.

    So there are both nvme and non nvme available? What is the diff/reason for going nvme?

    Disk space. 512GB NVMe vs 2TB HDD.

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  • @AC_Fan said:

    @lowendguy7 said:

    @AC_Fan said:
    If the only requirement is best CPU for the money, the AX41 is pretty much unbeatable. Grab the NVMe variant and go to town.

    So there are both nvme and non nvme available? What is the diff/reason for going nvme?

    Disk space. 512GB NVMe vs 2TB HDD.

    umm, so why would you wanna choose nvme if it has 1/4 of the disk capacity?

  • lowendguy7lowendguy7 Member
    edited October 10
  • lowendguy7lowendguy7 Member
    edited October 10

    Think I am gonna go with joe now :). The $40+ additional bucks setup fee put me off hetzner (plus I prefer supporting smaller companies) and I am sure dual xeons will still be a major power injection vs the $5 contabo vps' I have been using for the past year or more :).

  • lowendguy7lowendguy7 Member
    edited October 18

    Hey guys can you recomend any similar price point dedis to joes datacenter but with up to date support. I actually do not need 'top of the line' hardware now.

    After using the 5650 for a week I see that is more than enough as it is going to take me time to scale up to that level anyway compared to the tiny vpses I was using before and I don't wanna waste the resources I am paying for.

    I would prefer one with no setup fee (wouldn't we all lol) but wouldn't mind paying that if it meant getting up to date rescue facilities.

    Joes support is fine (in terms of their responses and cooperation) however I had no idea they do not provide any rescue console unless you ask them for it which is just dumb imo both for the clients and for them. For the clients it is a nuisance to have to ask them to get access to fix a problem but it is just as much of a nuisance for them to have to be asked so I can't undestand the logic in that.

    I have been having issues with the dedi I bought from them. It just hangs every few days and they say there is no system issues and they since said there are boot loader issues since I set it up with GPT and syslinux and they only support legacy mbr. I don't get why it would have worked fine for a week and then stop working if that were the case.

    Maybe if I reinstall the OS to MBR it will fix the phantom hanging issues and I would be fine with them but if not I need to look elsewhere. So joes seems fine as long as you don't have any issues with your server which you need remote access for in which case you are in for some hurdles.

  • Stick with VPS.

  • The more I look around joes is actually fantastic value for money so gonna try and make it work. If it is just a software issue somewhere (never experienced it before on other servers as I said but maybe just related to different hardware) then I will continue to search for the solution.

    I will keep playing around and see if I fix it before the next billing period but will keep a short list of other possibilities in case I don't.

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