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SSDNodes Singapore Launch - 32GB for $8.25/m

edited February 2020 in General

Just got an email from SSDNodes that they've launched a new location in Singapore, with pricing consistent with the rest of their lineup.

The catch is to unlock the price in the title you need to prepay for three years, with it being slightly more expensive if you just pay for one year and way more for just a month.

32GB RAM

320GB SSD

4 vCPU

16TB transfer

KVM

$8.25/m paid triennially, or $12.42/m if paid yearly.

Link: https://www.ssdnodes.com/sale/singapore-promo/?header

There are other plans on their site if the one above is a bit too prem.

Not associated with SSDNodes but I have used their services in the past and they seem to be rocksteady.

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  • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider

    16TB bandwidth in Singapore for $12.42/m? damn.

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  • seriesnseriesn Member, Top Provider

    @MikeA said:
    16TB bandwidth in Singapore for $12.42/m? damn.

    Is that the only thing that made you feel like damn?

  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    @seriesn said:
    Is that the only thing that made you feel like damn?

    Because we all know their RAM is oversold like crazy

    I am so f*cking tired

  • FAT32 said: Because we all know their RAM is oversold like crazy

    Are they using optane as RAM?

  • hzrhzr Member, Moderator

    Remember: no refunds, no crypto mining, no crypto related sites or anything likely to get attacked, no games, no bots of ANY kind, no transcoding or streaming media (explicitly no Plex or related software), etc.

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  • hzr said: Remember: no refunds, no crypto mining, no crypto related sites or anything likely to get attacked, no games, no bots of ANY kind, no transcoding or streaming media (explicitly no Plex or related software), etc.

    Any story where they shut down people's services w/ or w/o warnings?

  • hzrhzr Member, Moderator

    I don't think so, other than people blatantly running stuff in violation of ToS. But there is a lot more stuff that is against terms, like transcoding. I'm buying one to host web applications and a Postgres DB, so not concerned.

    For those caring about CN routing, the lowest I can get is 250ms, avg 300-400.

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  • @greattomeetyou said:

    FAT32 said: Because we all know their RAM is oversold like crazy

    Are they using optane as RAM?

    or Memory ballooning ?

  • Are you locked to that location, e.g. Singapore, for the rest of the contract?

  • If anyone is excited about this offer, I will be happy to transfer my account. Please contact me as I desperately want to leave SSDNodes.

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  • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider

    @pkr said:
    If anyone is excited about this offer, I will be happy to transfer my account. Please contact me as I desperately want to leave SSDNodes.

    Why's that?

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  • @MikeA said:

    @pkr said:
    If anyone is excited about this offer, I will be happy to transfer my account. Please contact me as I desperately want to leave SSDNodes.

    Why's that?

    Probably because of this - https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/161270/ssdnodes-ram-is-not-fully-utilized/

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  • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider

    @MasonR said:

    @MikeA said:

    @pkr said:
    If anyone is excited about this offer, I will be happy to transfer my account. Please contact me as I desperately want to leave SSDNodes.

    Why's that?

    Probably because of this - https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/161270/ssdnodes-ram-is-not-fully-utilized/

    oh.. yeah.. that could do it.

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  • @MikeA said:

    @pkr said:
    If anyone is excited about this offer, I will be happy to transfer my account. Please contact me as I desperately want to leave SSDNodes.

    Why's that?

    If I reveal the truth here, no one will be interested in my offer. hahaha :smiley: :smile:

    Here is the truth:
    When I saw their 16gb RAM for $79, I did not spend a second to think and purchased it. I am one of their oldest customers; I may one of their first 25 customers to buy their VPS when they started the company. I was aware of their quality and hence did not hesitate to pay for 3 years in advance. But something has changed with these humongous RAM offers.

    I have tested SSDNodes's 3 locations (LA, TX, and Frankfurt). What I found that I was never allowed to use >4gb RAM. Whenever cache size became ~4gb, cache got deleted and RAM usage came down to 1.5gb. So, they promised 16gb RAM with the offer, but I was allowed to use only 4gb.
    I contacted their support team and after reading his response, I realized that 16gb is not real RAM, at least at 3 locations (LA, TX, and Frankfurt). They use some techniques for fake RAM. One can buy a decent VPS (4vCPU and 6-8gb real RAM) for $8.25/month. So, why should one pay for 3 years in advance?
    I am not sure about their other locations. If someone wants to try their luck with these offers, I am ready to transfer my account.

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  • pullangcubopullangcubo Member
    edited February 2020

    Do they already have looking glass for this Singapore location?

  • pkr said: So, they promised 16gb RAM with the offer, but I was allowed to use only 4gb.

    Did you ask them about it?
    What was the response?

  • @IncognitoBurrito said:
    Just got an email from SSDNodes that they've launched a new location in Singapore, with pricing consistent with the rest of their lineup.

    The catch is to unlock the price in the title you need to prepay for three years, with it being slightly more expensive if you just pay for one year and way more for just a month.

    32GB RAM

    320GB SSD

    4 vCPU

    16TB transfer

    KVM

    $8.25/m paid triennially, or $12.42/m if paid yearly.

    Link: https://www.ssdnodes.com/sale/singapore-promo/?header

    There are other plans on their site if the one above is a bit too prem.

    Not associated with SSDNodes but I have used their services in the past and they seem to be rocksteady.

    SCAM!

  • @pkr said:

    @MikeA said:

    @pkr said:
    If anyone is excited about this offer, I will be happy to transfer my account. Please contact me as I desperately want to leave SSDNodes.

    Why's that?

    If I reveal the truth here, no one will be interested in my offer. hahaha :smiley: :smile:

    Here is the truth:
    When I saw their 16gb RAM for $79, I did not spend a second to think and purchased it. I am one of their oldest customers; I may one of their first 25 customers to buy their VPS when they started the company. I was aware of their quality and hence did not hesitate to pay for 3 years in advance. But something has changed with these humongous RAM offers.

    I have tested SSDNodes's 3 locations (LA, TX, and Frankfurt). What I found that I was never allowed to use >4gb RAM. Whenever cache size became ~4gb, cache got deleted and RAM usage came down to 1.5gb. So, they promised 16gb RAM with the offer, but I was allowed to use only 4gb.
    I contacted their support team and after reading his response, I realized that 16gb is not real RAM, at least at 3 locations (LA, TX, and Frankfurt). They use some techniques for fake RAM. One can buy a decent VPS (4vCPU and 6-8gb real RAM) for $8.25/month. So, why should one pay for 3 years in advance?
    I am not sure about their other locations. If someone wants to try their luck with these offers, I am ready to transfer my account.

    Seems like they selling KVM in openvz style

    Remember the value of LET is purely based on its traffic.

  • rm_rm_ Member
    edited February 2020

    pkr said: Whenever cache size became ~4gb, cache got deleted and RAM usage came down to 1.5gb. So, they promised 16gb RAM with the offer, but I was allowed to use only 4gb.

    You could blacklist the balloon driver, then your VPS would use as much as it wants, not listening to any instructions to give back RAM from the host. But if it's really so oversold, then everything would start grinding to a halt instead, and perhaps they would terminate you with no refund of your annual or triennial payment. (Seriously, never prepay for this long even with the best host in the world...)

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  • mlcmlc Member
    edited February 2020

    I just want know the performance of Singapore VPS, it can be seen that only IO is considerable.

    [email protected]:~# curl -sL yabs.sh | bash -s -- -i4
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2020-02-10                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Thu Feb 20 06:05:29 UTC 2020
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 v4 @ 2.20GHz
    CPU cores  : 1 @ 2199.998 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 3.9G
    Swap       : 0B
    Disk       : 40G
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4kb           (IOPS) | 64kb          (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 87.10 MB/s   (21.7k) | 1.24 GB/s    (19.4k)
    Write      | 87.33 MB/s   (21.8k) | 1.25 GB/s    (19.5k)
    Total      | 174.44 MB/s  (43.6k) | 2.49 GB/s    (39.0k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512kb         (IOPS) | 1mb           (IOPS)
      ------   | -----          ----  | ---            ---- 
    Read       | 3.68 GB/s     (7.2k) | 2.99 GB/s     (2.9k)
    Write      | 3.88 GB/s     (7.5k) | 3.19 GB/s     (3.1k)
    Total      | 7.57 GB/s    (14.7k) | 6.19 GB/s     (6.0k)
    
    Geekbench 4 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 3007                          
    Multi Core      | 2814                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/15243338
    

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  • @seriesn said:
    Is that the only thing that made you feel like damn?

    Because we all know their RAM is oversold like crazy

    But but it's dedicated. Phpfriends/LET accepted definition of "dedicated" lmao..

  • cybertechcybertech Member
    edited February 2020

    @fpmagic said:

    @seriesn said:
    Is that the only thing that made you feel like damn?

    Because we all know their RAM is oversold like crazy

    But but it's dedicated. Phpfriends/LET accepted definition of "dedicated" lmao..

    Php-friends don't sell 32GB for anywhere near that price and can install netinstall ISO but iirc ssdnodes don't...

    The only mentioned dedicated about ssdnodes plans is the IP address...

    that price for SG bandwidth really makes me wonder what network they on

    Remember the value of LET is purely based on its traffic.

  • SG Test IP from their online chat: 209.182.237.130

  • Could be worth it just for the bandwidth alone, cause that's ridiculously cheaper than anything else in SG.

  • mrclownmrclown Member
    edited February 2020

    3 years pre-payment. Interesting.

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  • @greattomeetyou said:

    hzr said: Remember: no refunds, no crypto mining, no crypto related sites or anything likely to get attacked, no games, no bots of ANY kind, no transcoding or streaming media (explicitly no Plex or related software), etc.

    Any story where they shut down people's services w/ or w/o warnings?

    Not shutdown but they throttled my VM due to cPanel installer taking too much resources in the 32GB plan. No notification until I opened a ticket for (really) low performance.

    Yep. Installing cPanel.

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  • How can you not go to deadpool at these prices?

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  • imok said: Not shutdown but they throttled my VM due to cPanel installer taking too much resources in the 32GB plan. No notification until I opened a ticket for (really) low performance.

    Yep. Installing cPanel.

    WTF, if that is taking up too much resource then what do they consider acceptable?

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  • WebGuruWebGuru Member
    edited February 2020

    @TerensM said:
    How can you not go to deadpool at these prices?

    These 3 years and 2 years pre-payments keep such providers alive. These crazy offers help attract more and more customers (read money) while using the trap of 3 years and 2 years pre-payments to fuel the service.

    I noticed a sudden increase of these 2-3 years pre-payments offers from different providers recently.

  • Just had a look at their site, marketing went wrong. On that plan it says.

    Save $5,463!

    Yeah, ok.

  • I barely paid 6 months advance to someone and regretted after 2 months already, how do people pay 3 years...

  • LeeLee Member
    edited February 2020

    Diamondz said: how do people pay 3 years...

    Part inability to appreciate it's too good to be true and part fear that if they don't sign up for 3 years the price will rocket soon after on a smaller pre-paid period.

    Let's be honest, it probably works and is selling well.

  • ViridWebViridWeb Member, Provider

    @TerensM said:
    How can you not go to deadpool at these prices?

    Because that's a Scam. You can't expect real 32GB dedicated RAM at that price..
    So stay away..
    Otherwise we will have another thread here just like Hostdoc

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  • @WebGuru said:

    @TerensM said:
    How can you not go to deadpool at these prices?

    These 3 years and 2 years pre-payments keep such providers alive. These crazy offers help attract more and more customers (read money) while using the trap of 3 years and 2 years pre-payments to fuel the service.

    I noticed a sudden increase of these 2-3 years pre-payments offers from different providers recently.

    ponzi? no refund :wink:

  • @Lee said:

    imok said: Not shutdown but they throttled my VM due to cPanel installer taking too much resources in the 32GB plan. No notification until I opened a ticket for (really) low performance.

    Yep. Installing cPanel.

    WTF, if that is taking up too much resource then what do they consider acceptable?

    Idling

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  • NeoonNeoon Member
    edited February 2020

    Scam and they call it a sale.....

  • Even ovh can't offer this cheap, to good to be true

  • jlayjlay Member
    edited February 2020

    Doing some testing for kicks and giggles

    • Removed the virtio_balloon kernel module (rmmod)

    • Disabled the module from loading: /etc/modules.d/blacklist.conf with 'install virtio_balloon /bin/true' to make it look like it loads

    • loaded up a tmpfs filesystem with random data, 98% memory usage

    • Disabled swap

    Let's see how long this lasts...

    One fun observation - they are absolutely compressing memory. I wrote non-random data and usage didn't go up. It's odd to see this in production, usually the CPU overhead isn't worthwhile.

    I'll report if I get any unexplained reboots or unfriendly contact, the box is essentially idle other than sitting on some memory usage. If they reboot me, I'll set this up to just fill the memory on boot and see how bad it gets.

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  • @jlay said:
    Doing some testing for kicks and giggles

    • Removed the virtio_balloon kernel module (rmmod)

    • Disabled the module from loading: /etc/modules.d/blacklist.conf with 'install virtio_balloon /bin/true' to make it look like it loads

    • loaded up a tmpfs filesystem with random data, 98% memory usage

    • Disabled swap

    Let's see how long this lasts...

    One fun observation - they are absolutely compressing memory. I wrote non-random data and usage didn't go up. It's odd to see this in production, usually the CPU overhead isn't worthwhile.

    Well, as soon they see the memory load of that node reaching a certain level, they will investigate and watch your VM using all its memory and going to likely suspend/restart it ....but good luck on that.

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  • jlayjlay Member
    edited February 2020

    @Neoon said:

    @jlay said:
    Doing some testing for kicks and giggles

    • Removed the virtio_balloon kernel module (rmmod)

    • Disabled the module from loading: /etc/modules.d/blacklist.conf with 'install virtio_balloon /bin/true' to make it look like it loads

    • loaded up a tmpfs filesystem with random data, 98% memory usage

    • Disabled swap

    Let's see how long this lasts...

    One fun observation - they are absolutely compressing memory. I wrote non-random data and usage didn't go up. It's odd to see this in production, usually the CPU overhead isn't worthwhile.

    Well, as soon they see the memory load of that node reaching a certain level, they will investigate and watch your VM using all its memory and going to likely suspend/restart it ....but good luck on that.

    If they do, I'll be glad to talk with them about it. I don't see how this would violate TOS, I'm not abusing shared resources like CPU time - I'm simply using memory that was allocated. They're very particular about services and content, but not anything I would see this falling under

    I'm hoping to fall nicely under the mostly idle category, but maybe identify signs that memory is woefully over-allocated.

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  • jlay said: One fun observation - they are absolutely compressing memory. I wrote non-random data and usage didn't go up.

    Where do you observe usage, in their panel? In your VPS usage in "free" or "top" should have gone up anyway, because you are not using compressed memory.

    Still, even from the host side, there isn't really any magical "compressed memory" technology which allows to easily oversell: there's KSM, which merges duplicate pages in memory (with not any kind of amazing efficiency), and variations of zswap, which is basically just swap, except compressed before writing to it.

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  • jlayjlay Member
    edited February 2020

    @rm_ said:

    jlay said: One fun observation - they are absolutely compressing memory. I wrote non-random data and usage didn't go up.

    Where do you observe usage, in their panel? In your VPS usage in "free" or "top" should have gone up anyway, because you are not using compressed memory.

    Still, even from the host side, there isn't really any magical "compressed memory" technology which allows to easily oversell: there's KSM, which merges duplicate pages in memory (with not any kind of amazing efficiency), and variations of zswap, which is basically just swap, except compressed before writing to it.

    I was using 'free', I just realized I may have looked at the wrong column :neutral:

    The usage shows in the shared and buff/cache columns, 'used' is minimal - I guess it's because it's tmpfs, so it looks like caches. I don't want to reset the experiment to check (I'll eat more CPU time), but I suspect I just quickly glanced at the wrong column

    Here's what it looks like right now with random data (I adjusted the sizes a bit earlier to free some memory to do stuff)

    $ free -h
                  total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
    Mem:          7.8Gi       119Mi       753Mi       6.5Gi       6.9Gi       899Mi
    Swap:            0B          0B          0B
    $ df -h /tmp /dev/shm
    Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
    tmpfs           3.9G  3.8G  129M  97% /tmp
    tmpfs           3.9G  2.8G  1.2G  72% /dev/shm
    

    edit:

    I just found this verbiage in the portal, guess they're leaning on/expecting this pretty heavily. Doesn't bode well for my experiment :smiley:

    To ensure high performance and reliability on our KVM platform, we require ... and all virtio modules. 
    
    These are included by default on all KVM servers, and disabling these services will result in downtime.
    

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  • Yesterday, I asked SSDNodes to migrate my 8gb VPS from Frankfurt to Singapore. So far everything looks fine. The cache was not deleted and I am using ~7/8gb RAM. Maybe once they have more customers at the Singapore location, things may change.

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  • Oh that's a good point - I'm doing my testing in their original location, I believe Dallas

    I had two VMs where I couldn't resist the temptation about a year ago, but never found a use for them. Now I do :wink:

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  • jlayjlay Member

    Update on the memory use experiment, VM was inexplicably rebooted a couple days ago. The mods to prevent virtio_balloon from automatically loading worked. Now I just need to set up a boot cron to copy some seed files full of random data over to tmpfs to allocate some of the memory.

    Going to sit on a more reasonable ~60% memory usage and see how that fairs; I was using just over 90% before and I could understand some issues during peak times if everyone happened to be doing it

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  • Great price....I was going to grab this until I noticed the cryptocurrency clause in the T&C's

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