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Hestia or VestaCP?

Hestia or VestaCP. Do you have a preference and why? I know there are other panels, but I'm going to use one of these because it is best for my current needs.

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  • On Debian 9, I have to revert back to VestaCP due to below open bug https://github.com/hestiacp/hestiacp/issues/548. WIll try again on Ubuntu 18.04. Reason for HestiaCP is being more active development

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  • Good to know. I was going to use Debian 9, will use Ubuntu now. Thank you.

  • JordJord Moderator, Provider

    None, I like DirectAdmin because it's prem.

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  • agentmishraagentmishra Member, Provider

    do hestia allow ipv6?

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  • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider

    Hestia works well, I've set it up and use it for a bit and found nothing that I didn't like. It's just Vesta that's maintained better and looks prettier.

    @agentmishra If I remember correctly yes.

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  • Try myvestacp

  • aapanel try..

  • Unfortunately, Hestia did not support softaculous and centos when I tried.
    By the looks, Hestia seems to be better.

    But, I feel vesta is more dependable as it is security audited by rack911.(did not try myvesta yet).

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  • @kaz050457 said:
    aapanel try..

    Aapanel also looks good and promising.

  • I went with VestaCP. Couldn't get myvesta to install softaculous. :(

  • @A_m_i_t said:
    Try myvestacp

    Summon @bikegremlin so he can drag @dpeca and explains why you should use MyVestaCP.

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  • Just tried MyVestaCP> @A_m_i_t said:

    Try myvestacp

    Just tried myvestacp which support Debian 10 also. Everything looks good except that dns cluster is not working with myvestacp. May be I am missing something. I am able to sync dns from myvestacp to vestacp but not from myvestacp to myvestacp. I have not setup security keyword. May be API is by default disabled in myvestacp. Any one know how I can enable api etc and do dns sync from myvestacp to myvestacp.

  • MyVestaCP has everything that I wanted. Thanks for sharing.
    VestaCP still uses Apache "prefork" that's why I never installed it, but MyVestaCP uses Apache "event".

    I have Apache + Nginx reverse proxy + PHP-FPM installed on my VPS. Can anyone tell me what should I use for "Web Template"? I did not find any documentation about it.

    Options are:

    -default
    -hosting
    -PHP-FPM
    -PHP-FPM-Public

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  • @pkr

    I googled for MyVestaCP but it always return Vestacp search result, can you give me the url?

  • @Matt247 said:
    @pkr

    I googled for MyVestaCP but it always return Vestacp search result, can you give me the url?

    https://github.com/myvesta/vesta/blob/master/README.md#myvesta-control-panel

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  • @sonic said:

    @Matt247 said:
    @pkr

    I googled for MyVestaCP but it always return Vestacp search result, can you give me the url?

    https://github.com/myvesta/vesta/blob/master/README.md#myvesta-control-panel

    Thanks!

  • @Matt247 said:
    @pkr

    I googled for MyVestaCP but it always return Vestacp search result, can you give me the url?

    https://github.com/myvesta/vesta

    Try bing instead of google. Using google, I did not find MyVestaCP, but bing found it.

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  • @pkr said:

    @Matt247 said:
    @pkr

    https://github.com/myvesta/vesta

    Try bing instead of google. Using google, I did not find MyVestaCP, but bing found it.

    interesting, bing actually return better result, gonna test this vestacp fork. thanks

  • I am facing an issue with MyVestaCP. My website is based on Wordpress and in the general settings, I have put my Gmail id to receive emails from the website (e.g. contact us page or comments). When I use CentOS Web Panel, I receive emails from my website. But with MyVestaCP, I do not receive emails from the website. I tried to restart Exim and stopped antiviruses, but nothing helped.
    Any help on how to fix it?

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  • pkr said: Any help on how to fix it?

    how about you start to learn some linux basics... like shell commands and how to administer a server? if you want to only rely on a panel or pasting internet codes better get some shared hosting.

    however... I think you should run the bench from @FlamesRunner signature first. afaik it'll run some system-checks too -->

    wget https://s.flamz.pw/dl/bench.sh && bash bench.sh

    good luck.

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  • Wait I thought Vesta wasn't recommended ever since the hack? Has that all been resolved now?

  • nemnem Member, Provider

    @unknownbullet said:
    Wait I thought Vesta wasn't recommended ever since the hack? Has that all been resolved now?

    Until the next hack. Rack911 did another shakedown and found more vulnerabilities in addition to what's already been found.

    It's hard to write safe code in bash.

  • @agentmishra said:
    do hestia allow ipv6?

    I have same question. Which panel can be installed on vps with ~128 mb ram and supports ipv6

    I'm stuck

  • @Falzo said:

    pkr said: Any help on how to fix it?

    how about you start to learn some linux basics... like shell commands and how to administer a server? if you want to only rely on a panel or pasting internet codes better get some shared hosting.

    however... I think you should run the bench from @FlamesRunner signature first. afaik it'll run some system-checks too -->

    wget https://s.flamz.pw/dl/bench.sh && bash bench.sh

    good luck.

    Thanks for the suggestion. I do most of the things on the command line, but I use hosting panels just to save some time. After banging my head on the monitor for several hours, I found a temporary fix.

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  • @unknownbullet said:
    Wait I thought Vesta wasn't recommended ever since the hack? Has that all been resolved now?

    I think other free panels have more bugs that VestaCP has. ☺️☺️😊
    MyVestaCP is a bit different than VestaCP.

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  • Check tinycp.com

    @timelapse said:

    @agentmishra said:
    do hestia allow ipv6?

    I have same question. Which panel can be installed on vps with ~128 mb ram and supports ipv6

    @timelapse said:

    @agentmishra said:
    do hestia allow ipv6?

    I have same question. Which panel can be installed on vps with ~128 mb ram and supports ipv6

    @timelapse said:

    @agentmishra said:
    do hestia allow ipv6?

    I have same question. Which panel can be installed on vps with ~128 mb ram and supports ipv6

  • Consider Virtualmin. Great and beautiful control panel.

    I'm an interested enthusiast. Teach me.

  • dpecadpeca Member

    @davi said:
    Just tried MyVestaCP> @A_m_i_t said:

    Try myvestacp

    Just tried myvestacp which support Debian 10 also. Everything looks good except that dns cluster is not working with myvestacp. May be I am missing something. I am able to sync dns from myvestacp to vestacp but not from myvestacp to myvestacp. I have not setup security keyword. May be API is by default disabled in myvestacp. Any one know how I can enable api etc and do dns sync from myvestacp to myvestacp.

    https://github.com/myvesta/vesta/issues/40#issuecomment-571810051

  • yokowasisyokowasis Member

    I am using hestia, they have WordPress installer, so that's a plus. Too bad none of them have phpmyadmin auto login. I mean nobody is going to remember their WordPress database username and password.

  • FalzoFalzo Member

    @yokowasis said:
    I am using hestia, they have WordPress installer, so that's a plus. Too bad none of them have phpmyadmin auto login. I mean nobody is going to remember their WordPress database username and password.

    that's true. how about a password manager with browser extension?

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  • yokowasisyokowasis Member
    edited May 23

    @Falzo said:

    @yokowasis said:
    I am using hestia, they have WordPress installer, so that's a plus. Too bad none of them have phpmyadmin auto login. I mean nobody is going to remember their WordPress database username and password.

    that's true. how about a password manager with browser extension?

    Works fine if you login into your own account. It will get messy fast when you host websites for your client, and they ask for their phpmyadmin username / password for their websites.

    Also hestia is missing a button. The function / page is there. Because I can type it manually in the browser. It's just the button is missing. Since I can't really remember it, I guess it's not that important.

    I don't know if it exists in vesta / myvesta. But hestia has cache template. They call it reddit mode. Which is neat. I am using it when a website is getting high traffic.

  • dpecadpeca Member

    myVesta has the same cache template as official Vesta - https://github.com/myvesta/vesta/blob/master/install/debian/10/templates/web/nginx/caching.sh
    but I'm wonder how nginx know when to purge/update that cache.
    Via cookie?

  • yokowasisyokowasis Member

    @dpeca said:
    myVesta has the same cache template as official Vesta - https://github.com/myvesta/vesta/blob/master/install/debian/10/templates/web/nginx/caching.sh
    but I'm wonder how nginx know when to purge/update that cache.
    Via cookie?

    It get purged whenever people login / session. I think.

    As far as I understand, if an ad admin logged in, which ever page he visited, it will get purged. Even after the admin logged out.

  • dpecadpeca Member

    yokowasis said: As far as I understand, if an ad admin logged in, which ever page he visited, it will get purged. Even after the admin logged out.

    but in that case it's possible to edit the page and forget to visit it :smiley:

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  • EdwardEdward Member

    @wilbo said:
    Hestia or VestaCP. Do you have a preference and why? I know there are other panels, but I'm going to use one of these because it is best for my current needs.

    VestaCP is more suitable for one project. That is, if you have many sites with different software, different versions of PHP, then it’s better not to use VestaCP, it is still rather not flexible in this regard. Also, no SSL is installed on many sites, and it gives errors. I have to do it from the console. I can’t say anything about the second panel, I have never used it.

  • dpecadpeca Member
    edited June 1

    @Edward said:
    That is, if you have many sites with different software, different versions of PHP, then it’s better not to use VestaCP, it is still rather not flexible in this regard.

    this is my shared server:

    it's powered by myVesta - www.myVestacp.com

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  • EdwardEdward Member

    dpeca said: this is my shared server:

    Yes, if you are well versed in the console and server administration, then of course it will be convenient for you to use VestaCP (to support multiple domains), but immediately after installation VestaCP will not be able to satisfy an ordinary user (who does not understand much about the console and setting up software on the server) for several different sites.

  • dpecadpeca Member
    edited June 2

    For what purpose you think that console is needed to user, for example?

  • EdwardEdward Member

    @dpeca said:
    For what purpose you think that console is needed to user, for example?

    For example, I could not install immediately on two sites, right through the panel interface, an SSL certificate from Let's Encrypt. And VestaCP often has some problems because of which you need to go to their forum and solve them through the console.
    I just mean that for a regular user the best solution would be a paid panel that will automatically update Linux and all necessary software, keeping the system safe, and in the case of VestaCP, you need to constantly monitor the software on the server.

  • yokowasisyokowasis Member

    @Edward said:

    dpeca said: this is my shared server:

    Yes, if you are well versed in the console and server administration, then of course it will be convenient for you to use VestaCP (to support multiple domains), but immediately after installation VestaCP will not be able to satisfy an ordinary user (who does not understand much about the console and setting up software on the server) for several different sites.

    If you are not versed in the console and server administration, you shouldn't have managed your own server in the first place. Just buy reseller.

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  • yokowasisyokowasis Member

    @dpeca said:

    yokowasis said: As far as I understand, if an ad admin logged in, which ever page he visited, it will get purged. Even after the admin logged out.

    but in that case it's possible to edit the page and forget to visit it :smiley:

    Then it won't get purged. But who the heck edit a page and not visiting to see how it looks?

  • dpecadpeca Member

    Edward said: And VestaCP often has some problems because of which you need to go to their forum and solve them through the console.

    i don't have those issues on myVesta fork.

  • EdwardEdward Member

    @yokowasis said:

    @Edward said:

    dpeca said: this is my shared server:

    Yes, if you are well versed in the console and server administration, then of course it will be convenient for you to use VestaCP (to support multiple domains), but immediately after installation VestaCP will not be able to satisfy an ordinary user (who does not understand much about the console and setting up software on the server) for several different sites.

    If you are not versed in the console and server administration, you shouldn't have managed your own server in the first place. Just buy reseller.

    I used this panel for a long time, this is an excellent product, but switched to a paid product, since VestaCP began to develop very slowly.

  • EdwardEdward Member

    @dpeca said:

    Edward said: And VestaCP often has some problems because of which you need to go to their forum and solve them through the console.

    i don't have those issues on myVesta fork.

    So you are lucky, or you are a very good server administrator. :)

  • yokowasisyokowasis Member

    @Edward said:

    @yokowasis said:

    @Edward said:

    dpeca said: this is my shared server:

    Yes, if you are well versed in the console and server administration, then of course it will be convenient for you to use VestaCP (to support multiple domains), but immediately after installation VestaCP will not be able to satisfy an ordinary user (who does not understand much about the console and setting up software on the server) for several different sites.

    If you are not versed in the console and server administration, you shouldn't have managed your own server in the first place. Just buy reseller.

    I used this panel for a long time, this is an excellent product, but switched to a paid product, since VestaCP began to develop very slowly.

    Happens to almost all of open source project. Developer need to spent their time into something that's actually can bring something into the table.

  • SecNinjaSecNinja Member

    I've added Hestia to my audit list when I have some free time.

    Looking at their Github repo, I see some code that perks my interest... will report back at a later date!

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  • ScITScIT Member

    Hi Patrick

    Thank you for taking the time to look at the project! If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us.

    And also to contribute my part of the discussion, which I seem to have missed in December:

    Whether Hestia or MyVestaCP is up to you, Hestia offers many new features, but also includes changes that not everyone likes (removed Sofaculous or missing CentOS support). What there is also to say is that Hestia and MyVestaCP are in close contact with each other, having a lot of discussions and also share informations about potential vulnerabilities.

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  • mehargagsmehargags Member

    @SecNinja said:
    I've added Hestia to my audit list when I have some free time.
    Looking at their Github repo, I see some code that perks my interest... will report back at a later date!

    Hi Pat,
    I'd say if you are going to invest time on auditing code, you better put efforts into Hestia and MyVesta as both are miles ahead better forks. Not to miss, they have most (or may be all) of your 2018 submissions done as well.
    Thanks again.

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  • dpecadpeca Member
    edited June 2

    mehargags said: or may be all

    All.
    I know it, because I participated in making those fixes in official Vesta, and I merged then them in my fork and also helped HestiaCP to implement it.
    As ScIT already wrote, both forks has very open mutual communication about security :smile:

    mehargags said: I'd say if you are going to invest time on auditing code

    At least we are very responsive in communication :smile:

    Also, to use this moment to say that I would be very thankful if @SecNinja sometime in future consider myVesta as hosting panel that is worthy to security analysis :smile:

  • ScITScIT Member

    dpeca said: I know it, because I participated in making those fixes in official Vesta, and I merged then them in my fork and also helped HestiaCP to implement it.

    Also confirming that all reported issues from 2018 are resolved since a long time - including the current existing exploits (https://github.com/serghey-rodin/vesta/issues/1984 and https://github.com/serghey-rodin/vesta/issues/2007) that are unfortunately still not released in a new vesta version, but patched from @dpeca - which we pointed him to it. I really like the cooperation between our projects :)!

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