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What Email Provider you using for Personal Use?

i switched from Gmail to Self Hosted Mailcow for 2 domains . so far it has no issues.

previously i was using the dockerized version and later moved to hosted one.

Just want to know what is your current Email provider for Personal Use ?

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  • mxroute

  • Me with Mail-in-a-Box ...

    Thanked by 1captainwasabi

    Recommended providers: BuyVM - MXroute - LunaNode - Forpsi - IntoVPS

  • MXRoute for personal & general smtp use.

    Providers I can recommend: BuyVM - AlphaVPS - MXRoute

  • Mailcow, some domain with external smtp relay

  • mailcheap.co

    Thanked by 1lnx
  • mxroute as well, so far so good

    EVERYTHING IS MUCH BETTER THAN IT WAS 1 YEAR AGO

  • Fastmail, very happy with it but it's expensive.

    Thanked by 2JasonM iKeyZ

    #lexit spread the word.

  • jsgjsg Member

    My own

    Thanked by 2fLoo wdmg

    Thanks no.

  • vyas11vyas11 Member
    edited August 2019

    Gmail for the noise, personal site’s email via zoho MXroute.
    Added later:
    Had used inbox dot eu before but decided to try MXroute since business has multiple domains. Liked it, moved the personal account. also seeing this thread and comments from @jar seems like a good move so far.

  • Mailcow with external relay and MXroute

    @amsaal said:
    i switched from Gmail to Self Hosted Mailcow for 2 domains . so far it has no issues.

    previously i was using the dockerized version and later moved to hosted one.

    May I ask you the reason you moved out?

  • riotriot Member

    Postfix.

    Thanked by 3rm_ fLoo wdmg
  • namecheap.. actually very cheap

  • 17brownj17brownj Member, Provider

    I also use MXroute, works great for my needs. Definitely would recommend for anyone looking.

    InspireShared Starting at only $4/year in US & EU!

  • @sanvit said:
    Mailcow with external relay and MXroute

    @amsaal said:
    i switched from Gmail to Self Hosted Mailcow for 2 domains . so far it has no issues.

    previously i was using the dockerized version and later moved to hosted one.

    May I ask you the reason you moved out?

    just that i see guys from reddit moved out as they say due to privacy concern. And good to have your own self hosted since for me its a learning curve and to understand more about it.

  • bikegremlinbikegremlin Member
    edited August 2019

    Can Gmail be set to retrieve emails from MXroute using POP3, or some other methods?

    Can it also be configured to use MXroute for sending emails using Gmail?

    To be precise - would like being able to do something exactly like this:

    https://io.bikegremlin.com/10364/website-gmail/

    Another question:
    MS Exchange vs Gsuite vs MXroute - what are the differences in practice (price aside)?

    Mostly harmless™

    I/O Gremlin

  • @bikegremlin said:
    Can Gmail be set to retrieve emails from MXroute using POP3, or some other methods?

    Can it also be configured to use MXroute for sending emails using Gmail?

    To be precise - would like being able to do something exactly like this:

    https://io.bikegremlin.com/10364/website-gmail/

    Another question:
    MS Exchange vs Gsuite vs MXroute - what are the differences in practice (price aside)?

    Your link already answered your question

  • jarjar Provider

    @bikegremlin said:
    Can Gmail be set to retrieve emails from MXroute using POP3, or some other methods?

    Can it also be configured to use MXroute for sending emails using Gmail?

    To be precise - would like being able to do something exactly like this:

    https://io.bikegremlin.com/10364/website-gmail/

    Another question:
    MS Exchange vs Gsuite vs MXroute - what are the differences in practice (price aside)?

    Yes, I support POP3, IMAP, and SMTP. No hoops to jump through, just the basic protocols as expected. I try to keep it simple on that front while my real work goes to the outbound infrastructure, because I'm obsessed with high quality outbound delivery.

    MagicSpam blackmails providers into buying their software, and ServerHub is a professional spam organization.

  • Cloudcone hosted email platform... works good enough for my current needs but I don’t use it often enough to be able to evaluate its’ reliability.

  • @jar said:

    @bikegremlin said:
    Can Gmail be set to retrieve emails from MXroute using POP3, or some other methods?

    Can it also be configured to use MXroute for sending emails using Gmail?

    To be precise - would like being able to do something exactly like this:

    https://io.bikegremlin.com/10364/website-gmail/

    Another question:
    MS Exchange vs Gsuite vs MXroute - what are the differences in practice (price aside)?

    Yes, I support POP3, IMAP, and SMTP. No hoops to jump through, just the basic protocols as expected. I try to keep it simple on that front while my real work goes to the outbound infrastructure, because I'm obsessed with high quality outbound delivery.

    If I use a lifetime promotion, with unlimited domains and email accounts, would this be considered a fair use:

    Say 20 domains, with 2-3 emails for each domain, configure them to store emails elsewhere (not using the 10 GB storage limit).

    300 outbound emails per hour is "counted" for all the accounts on aggregate, or per email, or domain?

    When 301st email gets sent, does it get discarded, or just "held back" then re-sent the next hour?

    Not planning any mailing lists - doesn't look like a solution for that though.

    But being able to receive any emails is important (even if filter thinks they are spam - would like the option of checking that and allowing some, at least manually), as well as good deliverability.

    Mostly harmless™

    I/O Gremlin

  • jarjar Provider
    edited August 2019

    bikegremlin said: If I use a lifetime promotion, with unlimited domains and email accounts, would this be considered a fair use:

    Sure, that won't bother me any.

    bikegremlin said: When 301st email gets sent, does it get discarded, or just "held back" then re-sent the next hour?

    It gets returned. The real limit is over 300 but I can't say by how much, it's a dice roll. It's 300 per hour per sender on each outbound filter server, which is DNS round robin (aka not true round robin, not evenly distributed).

    MagicSpam blackmails providers into buying their software, and ServerHub is a professional spam organization.

  • @jar said:

    bikegremlin said: If I use a lifetime promotion, with unlimited domains and email accounts, would this be considered a fair use:

    Sure, that won't bother me any.

    bikegremlin said: When 301st email gets sent, does it get discarded, or just "held back" then re-sent the next hour?

    It gets returned. The real limit is over 300 but I can't say by how much, it's a dice roll. It's 300 per hour per sender on each outbound filter server, which is DNS round robin (aka not true round robin, not evenly distributed).

    Just to clarify:

    If one account is used to set up:
    [email protected]
    [email protected]

    Does each of those emails get 300 per hour limit?
    Or it is counted on aggregate, since both are set up with the same account?

    P.S. anyone used Yandex?
    https://connect.yandex.com/pdd/

    Mostly harmless™

    I/O Gremlin

  • Gmail for transactions & Yahoo for forum & web site signups

  • jarjar Provider

    bikegremlin said: Does each of those emails get 300 per hour limit?

    Each one. The filter servers aren't smart enough to know they're connected, it's just pulling the headers and grabbing the sender.

    Thanked by 1bikegremlin

    MagicSpam blackmails providers into buying their software, and ServerHub is a professional spam organization.

  • the good thing about what i like in mailcow is the Domain Admin can enable 2way authentication and brute force check is already enabled by default.

    The anti spam features are better then Gmail according to my preference.

  • Just a quick survey: for all using MXRoute, who are actively using CrossBox?

    Also @jar, I vaguely remember reading before, at the onset of this whole cPanel saga, that you were considering moving to a different panel? And because of that, MXRoute's support for CrossBox is in limbo? Is this impression of mine accurate?

  • jarjar Provider

    @pullangcubo said:
    Just a quick survey: for all using MXRoute, who are actively using CrossBox?

    Also @jar, I vaguely remember reading before, at the onset of this whole cPanel saga, that you were considering moving to a different panel? And because of that, MXRoute's support for CrossBox is in limbo? Is this impression of mine accurate?

    Right now my thinking is that crossbox will actually carry over to the new system, but I haven't yet tested that. There will be a ton of considerations before a change, to make sure that at least most customers see it as an upgrade.

    Thanked by 1pullangcubo

    MagicSpam blackmails providers into buying their software, and ServerHub is a professional spam organization.

  • SadySady Member
    edited August 2019

    MXRoute since 2015, running rock solid. Referred like 5-6 clients/friends and they couldn't be any happier. Referred the last one yesterday ;)

    Thanked by 2jar coreflux

    I don't have any relation/affiliation with any LET Host, All of my comments are my own
    Simple bash script to clean compromised wordpress site [cPanel/WHM specified]

  • bikegremlinbikegremlin Member
    edited August 2019

    @jar said:

    @pullangcubo said:
    Just a quick survey: for all using MXRoute, who are actively using CrossBox?

    Also @jar, I vaguely remember reading before, at the onset of this whole cPanel saga, that you were considering moving to a different panel? And because of that, MXRoute's support for CrossBox is in limbo? Is this impression of mine accurate?

    Right now my thinking is that crossbox will actually carry over to the new system, but I haven't yet tested that. There will be a ton of considerations before a change, to make sure that at least most customers see it as an upgrade.

    I heard about your business only this year. Good reputation.
    Am seriously considering betting a 100$ that it will work (lifetime license). :)

    My goal is to find a reliable way for most emails to arrive to my inbox and also to have all the emails arrive at the destination (just regular replies and confirmations). I understand that for mailing lists and thousands of emails, SendGrid, or similar solutions are required.

    Also looking at MS Exchange and G-suite, but MX Route looks like a decent option, even for business (unless sending tons of emails, of course).

    For sending more emails - can MX Route be used with SendGrid if/when sending more emails is needed (sorry if it's a stupid question - didn't google on that yet)?
    Does that "avoid" the 300 emails per hour limit in any way?

    Another question for the 2way mail confirmation requirement, if SendGrid integration works:

    If customers subscribe to my service. Like registering on the website. And I send email schedules for meetings/classes/whatever to thousands of them. Does that get flagged as spamming?
    To clarify: signing on the website would have them understand and desire to be notified (that is: not informing would be considered a problem and have 99.9% customers angry).
    But I don't think asking them to opt in for the 2nd time would be practical to most.

    Example: sign up for yoga classes. You'll get notified of any schedule changes via website and to your e-mail, that you used to register with the website/create account.

    Is it problem if the number of customers is in (hundreds of) thousands - if using SendGrid?

    No spaming, no marketing/promotion emails, just schedules, re-schedules and important notifications (along with invoices, payment confirmations emails etc.).

    Is your solution a good tool for this, or would you recommend something else?

    Mostly harmless™

    I/O Gremlin

  • Gmail for personal and domain registration. Yandex for incoming emai. And yahoo disposable email for some fishy forums

  • bikegremlin said: P.S. anyone used Yandex?

    Kind of ... they are oddly picky that each email account belongs to a different physical person. Which is illogical. Other than that, it seems great other than you are obliged to use their DNS for the domain that they host email on - which I am not overly fond of.

    Thanked by 1bikegremlin

    Recommended providers: BuyVM - MXroute - LunaNode - Forpsi - IntoVPS

  • bikegremlin said: But I don't think asking them to opt in for the 2nd time would be practical to most.

    I am not sure why you think this way ... they get an email that asks them to click a link to confirm that the email is correct and confirm that they indeed want your mails. What is impractical about that?

    Thanked by 1bikegremlin

    Recommended providers: BuyVM - MXroute - LunaNode - Forpsi - IntoVPS

  • bikegremlin said: Is it problem if the number of customers is in (hundreds of) thousands - if using SendGrid?

    As long as you can afford the bill that SendGrid charges it doesn't matter because the emails will never touch MXRoute.

    Thanked by 1bikegremlin

    Recommended providers: BuyVM - MXroute - LunaNode - Forpsi - IntoVPS

  • @alento said:

    bikegremlin said: But I don't think asking them to opt in for the 2nd time would be practical to most.

    I am not sure why you think this way ... they get an email that asks them to click a link to confirm that the email is correct and confirm that they indeed want your mails. What is impractical about that?

    That part would be necessary for the registration.
    But no need for further application to "mailing notification list" or something.
    Only an opt-out option.

    Mostly harmless™

    I/O Gremlin

  • NekkiNekki Moderator

    ProtonMail, Tutanota and MXRoute.

    Thanked by 3vyas11 skorous Doutei

    Here lies Nekki. He loved massive amounts of storage, K-Pop and calling people cunts.

  • rm_rm_ Member

    riot said: Postfix.

    The best provider out there, I use that one too!

    Thanked by 1desperand
  • Been using MXRoute for a few years now, a great service, prices and support

  • mailbox.org , mxroute, mailgun.

    I could probably move the stuff using mailgun to mxroute if I could be bothered, it's usually less than 100 emails a month unless I break something and upset zabbix.

  • jarjar Provider
    edited August 2019

    bikegremlin said: If customers subscribe to my service. Like registering on the website. And I send email schedules for meetings/classes/whatever to thousands of them. Does that get flagged as spamming?
    To clarify: signing on the website would have them understand and desire to be notified (that is: not informing would be considered a problem and have 99.9% customers angry).
    But I don't think asking them to opt in for the 2nd time would be practical to most.

    You just need to send them a link that they click to confirm subscription. If you don't, you'll find your website being abused to flood other people's inboxes with spam, and I would personally consider it unsolicited/spam after briefly reviewing why so many emails bounced back on a regular basis. Remember you don't have to be known or popular to be abused in this way, almost none of the mailing lists used by sites like these are: https://mailbait.info/

    To this day I'm still working on unsubscribing from thousands of obscure internal college mailing lists that I was signed up for by a pedophile I reported to a web host. They don't require double opt in because they thought "who would abuse this or even know it exists?"

    Thanked by 1bikegremlin

    MagicSpam blackmails providers into buying their software, and ServerHub is a professional spam organization.

  • willie said: Fastmail, very happy with it but it's expensive.

    me too with fastmail. Recently migrated from protonmail

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    Good Morning. Have a nice day ahead!smiley

  • OujiOuji Member

    Tutanota, Mailbox.org (for one of my domains) and self hosting in Cloudron for another domain. I also have an account setup in Mailgun with Google refer (30k mails month) for when my Mailbox.org subscription runs out.

  • A small step for a (grease) monkey:

    https://io.bikegremlin.com/11200/mxroute-email/

    In case it helps anyone else.

    Thanked by 1jar

    Mostly harmless™

    I/O Gremlin

  • pullangcubo said: And because of that, MXRoute's support for CrossBox is in limbo?

    Crossbox isn't tightly coupled with cPanel... It works with other panels too (DirectAdmin, Plesk, ...) and there's also a standalone version.

  • Daniel15Daniel15 Member
    edited August 2019

    I'm still using legacy free Google Apps accounts for some domains that I've had for a long time, and MXRoute for a few others. MXRoute has been pretty good so far.

  • jsgjsg Member

    P.S. (as I just happened to see him and be reminded). If I ever used a 3rd party service it would probably be @jar 's service because I have heard only good things from his customers (minus the usual exceptions) and his prices are quite OK.

    Thanked by 1jar

    Thanks no.

  • @alento said:

    bikegremlin said: P.S. anyone used Yandex?

    Kind of ... they are oddly picky that each email account belongs to a different physical person. Which is illogical. Other than that, it seems great other than you are obliged to use their DNS for the domain that they host email on - which I am not overly fond of.

    MX Records only. Using their nameservers is optional.

  • NekkiNekki Moderator

    @JasonM said:

    willie said: Fastmail, very happy with it but it's expensive.

    me too with fastmail. Recently migrated from protonmail

    Out of curiosity, why did you make the change?

    Here lies Nekki. He loved massive amounts of storage, K-Pop and calling people cunts.

  • pikepike Member

    unseen.is

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  • mikei said: MX Records only. Using their nameservers is optional.

    I will have to reinvestigate this then ... of course the MX records have to be pointed to Yandex, but the name servers also were required to be pointed to theirs at the time I investigated this.
    But having them constantly block the main Yandex mail account because 'it appears that the messages being sent are spam' coupled with seemingly wanting each account to list the actual persons name of the account holder makes using Yandex for domains potentially too much of a potential issue.

    Thanked by 1angstrom

    Recommended providers: BuyVM - MXroute - LunaNode - Forpsi - IntoVPS

  • My current setup for mail is mix of a few provider I need to get around and consolidate it.

    A few domains at Mxroute other domain on self hosted Mailcow and one domain at Yandex, probably move all domain to my Mailcow server.

  • Mxroute for me.

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