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PHP Friends to introduce a new product generation?!
On their FB they have posted a picture of a new rack, teasing the audience by saying that they haven't installed a new rack without a reason and that maybe next week already they'll launch a new product generation.
So stay tuned
@PHP_Friends cough Anything you want to tell us? cough
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Holy crap their offer... https://php-friends.de/vserver-ssd/vserver-fruehlingsspecial-2019-storage-ssd
https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/156207/2-dedicated-cores-10-gb-ram-40-gb-ssd-2tb-1-gbit-s-for-6-month#latest
Well there it is, Germany is now officially the bargain bin of Europe and they are having their own race to the bottom.
brexit
@LTniger merry xmas.
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This time 30Gb or 40Gb of RAM
I am going to buy 30 of them, insist that there are 10 per physical node for low latency and use all the ram and see what happens.
just make sure to fill the ram with random data to avoid ksm
Nothing to be alarmed about. They have redefined the term "dedicated"
haha, I was only joking, people have to eat I suppose.
For those who didn't click the link, the offer is 2 dedicated cores (vcores?) on an E5-2630v3 or v4, 20GB(!) ram, and 125GB raid-10 ssd, for 10€/m. This is crazy, wonder where all that ram is coming from. Wonder what the hw config actually is, and what do people do with the ram? It seems unbalanced, 20gb of ram per physical core (presuming the two reserved "cores" are vcores).
The E5-2630v3 has 8 physical cores and the v4 has 10 cores, so with reserved memory on a dual socket system there would be 320gb of 400gb of ram in the box.
Yeah I suspect some memory overallocation is going on here. The other parts of the offer seem doable though.
I was gonna say DDR3 RAM is super cheap these days but it's DDR4😅
It is not all that bad though. Atleast Hetzner, Netcup and PHPFriends are going stronk. Not only in terms of pricing but also performance, reliability and popularity. They have managed to offer dumping prices while maintaining a high level of quality.
On their system specifications page, they mention 512GB RAM.
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OK. So it will be 512GB old RAM type (silicon chips) for $1. Maybe those are just taking up space now and they no longer have use for it in this age of crystals.
Well, this is doable for any big region, similar to SSDNodes in Dallas. Older hardware is always going to be cheaper.
More importantly, older E5s are 'enough' for this market, the hobby enthusiasts.
Ah, thanks. But now it sounds like they are leaving a bunch of ram unused? Shrug. I wonder if they'd rent out whole machinse as dedicated servers. That's more interesting than yet another low-cpu vps, even one with tons of ram.
This market demands Platinum or in worst case Gold Xeon's. We are cheap, but with ambitions.
Oh hey, I just noticed this is very similar to Netcup offer of a week or so ago. I'm not worked up about the slightly older cpu generation. I guess the similarity is evidence that this is a sane offer, so good all around. I'm still more about storage and cpu than ram though.
First of all maybe it worths adding at least the EN language on your website considering that many visitors and potential buyers come from all over the world. @PHP_Friends
But I thought they were terrible. what eventually happened with them?
Sold Out
Totally Agree with you!
They are probably catering to german customers normally. But yeah. Would make a good addition.
cough good luck with your sales phpfriends and with your affiliate commissions ympzer cough
Do they offer support in English?
If you are not writing Shakespearean language they should understand you well enough
Yes. I've ticketed them serveral times and always got pretty decent english support.
A Korean customer and a German provider can understand each other well enough using English. No further proof necessary.
I think that competitors who publicly talk about how they can most effectively harm us speak for themselves. It's the biggest compliment we can get. So no more comments from me, I prefer making our customers happy over discussing our offers again and again
No, we haven't. I already wrote something about this here: https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/2957167/#Comment_2957167
Like I said in this post it's fine if you don't share this opinion. Btw, recently our colleagues from netcup even reduced the amount of CPU cores in their bigger models due to increased overall CPU usage: https://www.netcup-news.de/2019/04/12/root-server-generation-8-se-gestartet/
If you think that other providers in this price range (permanently) pin physical cores to virtual cores I can only say again that this is impossible and the netcup news is just a proof for this (delivered by a company which is, as far as I know, way bigger than we are). If someone needs physical dedicated cores on a VM there are enough providers for that. But simply not for the prices we and others offer.
Best Regards,
Tim