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HiFormance deadpooling — BACKUP YOUR DATA NOW!

h2oh2o Member
edited December 2018 in General

But this announcement was deleted.

The end is now.

Does anyone know the story?


From @doghouch: They seem to be pulling a quick one now. Matthew o’ saviour is using his TOS as grounds for not having to provide refunds. They’re really close to deadpooling and the remaining servers are probably only paid for until the end of the month. I cannot stress how important it is to take your data if you still have access to your VPS(es).

He’s already moved on to another name anyway.

tl;dr HiFormance is on virtual life support right now.

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  • IonSwitch_StanIonSwitch_Stan Member, Host Rep

    https://hiformance.com/ -- empty page.

    They almost made it to be the first colocrossing scamhost to deadpool in 2019.

  • The end is now. :sweat_smile:

  • LostMyBytes

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  • So shocked, totally didn't see that coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Senior Level 30 Microsoft Certified Technician

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @dedotatedwam said:
    So shocked, totally didn't see that coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The problem is that the admins of here and LEB posted their 3 year offers even though the company had far less than a year of actual life behind it.

    Francisco

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  • IonSwitch_StanIonSwitch_Stan Member, Host Rep

    Matthew Palmer (@HiFormance) can you help us understand what happened?

  • smilesmile Member
    edited December 2018

    You know it is really bad when the provider tells you to open a dispute(paypal?!) for a prorated refund :neutral:

  • still don't see anything :3

  • @Francisco said:

    @dedotatedwam said:
    So shocked, totally didn't see that coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The problem is that the admins of here and LEB posted their 3 year offers even though the company had far less than a year of actual life behind it.

    Francisco

    Because the admins are clucks. Anything remotely related to ColoCrossing goes no matter how shit it is. 99.9% of the crap on LEB is ColoCrossing shit, but with a different name.

    Senior Level 30 Microsoft Certified Technician

  • I have regret to inform you the closing of HiFormance due to unforeseen circumstances. We will be closing our doors as of 12/22/2018. We ask you to backup any data on your servers you need and migrate to another provider. To apply for a prorated refund for time not used please open a dispute through the payment processor that you have used for your payment. We do not guarantee any data will be available after 12/22/2018.

    Please note that no data in the Los Angeles Premium location will not be able to be backed up as the servers are offline.

    Thank You.

  • I dodged the bullet. Almost bought hiformance but change my mind and went with wishosting instead. Never been happier with wishosting.

    So hiformance took the money, refused to honour refund request and go out of business?
    That's a great way to earn money :smiley:

    I hope other companies on LEB.com will follow. Them all shady as fuck.

    Does LEB and LET have the same owner?

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  • this is expected. I feel bad for those who bought the 3 year offer. My condolence goes to the money.

    just avoid colocrossing. If you insist, at least use Virmach.

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  • @jamuja said:
    I dodged the bullet. Almost bought hiformance but change my mind and went with wishosting instead. Never been happier with wishosting.

    So hiformance took the money, refused to honour refund request and go out of business?
    That's a great way to earn money :smiley:

    I hope other companies on LEB.com will follow. Them all shady as fuck.

    Does LEB and LET have the same owner?

    Whatever I learned last few weeks here is, LEB and LET owned by ColoCrossing, also hiformance lease the hardware from Colocrossing.

    LET === User Enlightened Territory

  • @creep said:
    just avoid colocrossing. If you insist, at least use Virmach.

    @VirMach has a bright future, and past of turd polishing.

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  • @fengzone said:
    ... no data in the Los Angeles Premium location will not be able to be backed up ...

    ???

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  • JerryHouJerryHou Member
    edited December 2018

    @eol said:

    @fengzone said:
    ... no data in the Los Angeles Premium location will not be able to be backed up ...

    ???

    Those servers were reported by users down for days. And now Hiformance has confirmed those servers are forever shut down, to my understanding..

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  • key900key900 Member, Provider
    edited December 2018

    Winter is done that so soon?

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  • doghouchdoghouch Member
    edited December 2018

    ... somehow they still have like 430 VPSes still available on one of their packages.

    We all knew this would happen — they were offering unsustainable prices and ended up following VortexNode’s steps trying to keep afloat with ColoCrossing’s contractual requirements.

    It’s time to back up any data you have (if possible). As they’ve deleted their main website and announcements, I think it’s safe to say that they’re going under and nothing you store with them is secure.

    I’ve pinned the thread per the request of a few users. Let me make this clear again: they’re hanging by a tiny thread now. Don’t pay another invoice or give them any money.

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  • I lost 5$. Lesson Learned. Rip Hiformance, enjoy my beer money.

    LET === User Enlightened Territory

  • Judging by the fact that the servers are offline I guess we can safely say they have deadpooled and not deadpooling

  • @Francisco said:

    @dedotatedwam said:
    So shocked, totally didn't see that coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The problem is that the admins of here and LEB posted their 3 year offers even though the company had far less than a year of actual life behind it.

    Francisco

    LEB wise you can point at Jon or Chris for that, hopefully you actually meant the owners /owner admins not the volunteer admins, that phrase muddies the waters a bit and suggests I or @trewq had some involvement in pushing their offers.

    I personally have very little sympathy for anyone buying a 3 year deal from a new company but I do hope you get the lions share of your money back, sadly I suspect many will not.

    I stepped down as admin as SOON as it became obvious Chris was back to his old tricks here again and he stared unbanning known scammers for CC profit, there are still a number of them being allowed to operate here sadly.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    AnthonySmith said: LEB wise you can point at Jon or Chris for that, hopefully you actually meant the owners /owner admins not the volunteer admins, that phrase muddies the waters a bit and suggests I or @trewq had some involvement in pushing their offers.

    You guys are cool.

    The buffalo crew are what i'm referring to.

    Francisco

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  • dahartigandahartigan Member without signature

    Another one bites the dust.

  • Critical Error
    Could not connect to the database.

    https://my.hiformance.com/clientarea.php

  • angstromangstrom Member
    edited December 2018

    HiFormance's first ad on LEB dates from 08 September 2017; at that time, they were "an extremely young company," so presumably established during the summer of 2017:

    https://lowendbox.com/blog/new-provider-hiformance-exclusive-kvm-offer/

    Note that -- below the ad -- HiFormance-Kyle stayed around to answer questions and to react to comments.

    Fast forward to Cyber Monday of this year (26 November):

    https://lowendbox.com/blog/cyber-monday-hiformance-8gb-openvz-w-4-cores-40gb-ssd-for-only-35-97-3-years-and-more/

    In this ad, which was dutifully posted by @Nick, HiFormance-Kyle writes:

    We are excited to bring another unbeatable offer to the LowEndBox community! It continues to be an amazing year for us as we continuously grow exponentially.

    Despite this (ultimately misleading) expression of optimism on the part of HiFormance-Kyle, he doesn't stay around to answer any questions or to react to any comments, which probably was not an accident given that most of the comments are negative and that HiFormance was about to deadpool.

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  • key900key900 Member, Provider

    @Francisco said:

    AnthonySmith said: LEB wise you can point at Jon or Chris for that, hopefully you actually meant the owners /owner admins not the volunteer admins, that phrase muddies the waters a bit and suggests I or @trewq had some involvement in pushing their offers.

    You guys are cool.

    The buffalo crew are what i'm referring to.

    Francisco

    This was obvious from the beginning and we will see more deadpool pretty soon!

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  • @key900 said:

    @Francisco said:

    AnthonySmith said: LEB wise you can point at Jon or Chris for that, hopefully you actually meant the owners /owner admins not the volunteer admins, that phrase muddies the waters a bit and suggests I or @trewq had some involvement in pushing their offers.

    You guys are cool.

    The buffalo crew are what i'm referring to.

    Francisco

    This was obvious from the beginning and we will see more deadpool pretty soon!

    It almost sounds as if you were looking forward to it! :wink:

    "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

  • @key900 said:
    This was obvious from the beginning and we will see more deadpool pretty soon!

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    You reap what you sow.

    And tools will always be tools.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • when monthly went to yearly, and then hostrails o/

  • @AnthonySmith said:

    @Francisco said:

    @dedotatedwam said:
    So shocked, totally didn't see that coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The problem is that the admins of here and LEB posted their 3 year offers even though the company had far less than a year of actual life behind it.

    Francisco

    LEB wise you can point at Jon or Chris for that, hopefully you actually meant the owners /owner admins not the volunteer admins, that phrase muddies the waters a bit and suggests I or @trewq had some involvement in pushing their offers.

    I personally have very little sympathy for anyone buying a 3 year deal from a new company but I do hope you get the lions share of your money back, sadly I suspect many will not.

    I stepped down as admin as SOON as it became obvious Chris was back to his old tricks here again and he stared unbanning known scammers for CC profit, there are still a number of them being allowed to operate here sadly.

    Maybe the providers here and on LEB should disclose if they are related and do business with ColoCrossing in any way.

    Between the spams of cheap discounted servers during BF and CF that LEB sends by emails and this incident, it seems like a systematic plan to have unsustainable business just to grab money and go under.

    I personally found that having provider that resell OVH or cheap servers like @cociu is much better quality and better night sleep than umaxhosting, hiformance etc that resell ColoCrossing.

  • jamuja said: Maybe the providers here and on LEB should disclose if they are related and do business with ColoCrossing in any way.

    Between the spams of cheap discounted servers during BF and CF that LEB sends by emails and this incident, it seems like a systematic plan to have unsustainable business just to grab money and go under.

    I personally found that having provider that resell OVH or cheap servers like @cociu is much better quality and better night sleep than umaxhosting, hiformance etc that resell ColoCrossing.

    This has been going on for 10 years, no one cares if it is cheap enough.

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    @jamuja said:
    Maybe the providers here and on LEB should disclose if they are related and do business with ColoCrossing in any way.

    Between the spams of cheap discounted servers during BF and CF that LEB sends by emails and this incident, it seems like a systematic plan to have unsustainable business just to grab money and go under.

    I personally found that having provider that resell OVH or cheap servers like @cociu is much better quality and better night sleep than umaxhosting, hiformance etc that resell ColoCrossing.

    (Some) people don't change. Don't bother. Whether they disclose or not, as long as it's cheap enough, they will bite.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • SmallWebSmallWeb Member, Provider
    edited December 2018

    If you're going to deadpool, don't use a bloody double negative like "No data in x location will not be able to be backed up". Also, announcement removed? What? So you're gonna close and not inform your clients? Or stay open and not tell anyone? What a complete mess either way.

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    To be fair, people will complain regardless how they close.

    Give them a month of notice -> Too short! Can we get one more free month?
    Give me a week of notice -> Complain about the length of notice.
    Just send out an e-mail and close the next day -> Where is my data.
    Just deadpool -> wtf?

    So, doesn't matter how they close. Might as well just close.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • @deank said:
    To be fair, people will complain regardless how they close.

    I disagree. There's been some rather classy deadpools here that I've seen. Most recently, MSP, where he notified a month or more in advance and offered prorated refunds for services not delivered. Minimal drama. Handled as best it could be.

    This is completely on the opposite side of the spectrum, I'm afraid. No notice of shutdown (still haven't received any communication of my defunct server at their LA QN location). Little chance of refunds. But then again, this was inevitable given their prices. Just a shame that CC seemingly sponsored their scam (whether intentional or not).

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Of course, there are exceptions but exceptions aren't norm.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • CVPS_ChrisCVPS_Chris Member, Provider

    Francisco said: The problem is that the admins of here and LEB posted their 3 year offers even though the company had far less than a year of actual life behind it.

    Always spreading lies about us. The owners of this company have been in the hosting business longer than you have. Stop trolling every ColoCrossing thread, grow up and move on its time.

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  • @deank said:
    Of course, there are exceptions but exceptions aren't norm.

    Sure, but the norm here is slightly skewed since we regularly deal with kiddie/summer shithosts that get in over their heads and make rash decisions. Point is, there's correct way to handle it and an awful way to handle it. Obviously this case (and probably most LE deadpools) is the later, unfortunately.

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    We are on LET, it is not skewed here.
    It's not like WHT is any better.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • tcp6tcp6 Member
    edited December 2018

    popcorn

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  • MasonRMasonR Member
    edited December 2018

    @CVPS_Chris said:

    Francisco said: The problem is that the admins of here and LEB posted their 3 year offers even though the company had far less than a year of actual life behind it.

    Always spreading lies about us. The owners of this company have been in the hosting business longer than you have. Stop trolling every ColoCrossing thread, grow up and move on its time.

    Hmmm... let's see.

    Hiformance's first wayback archive w/ content: 29 August 2012 [note only offering game servers...]
    Hiformance's first wayback archive offering VPS services: 20 October 2017
    Hiformance's first LEB feature: 24 November 2017 [merely 1 month after offering VPS services mostly in CC locations]

    ...and then we have buyvm who's first wayback capture is: 19 June 2010

    Letting a MineCraft hosting company pump out long-term unsustainable VPS deals (which is a brand new product for them) on your platform just because they rent servers from you guys is careless and irresponsible. Also seeing that they only became a registered business in November 2017 is another red flag. If it looks like shit and smells like shit, it probably is shit.

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  • MasonR said: If it looks like shit and smells like shit, it probably is shit.

    Lets pull up the identity theft case too :)

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  • mfsmfs Banned, Member
    edited December 2018

    @CVPS_Chris said:

    Francisco said: The problem is that the admins of here and LEB posted their 3 year offers even though the company had far less than a year of actual life behind it.

    Always spreading lies about us. The owners of this company have been in the hosting business longer than you have. Stop trolling every ColoCrossing thread, grow up and move on its time.

    According to the notoriously rogue website known as lowendbox.com

    they’re a registered LLC in the state of Wyoming (2017-000777425)

    As anyone can check on opencorporates, they started their company in November 2017

    Wyoming confirms
    (and adds: "Standing - Tax: Delinquent")

    The domain has been registered in 2014 but that alone doesn't mean they've been in business since then, also it seems it (possibly) changed ownership from 2014 to 2017

    So if you want to add some more background information about the way you check people advertising on LEB; or, if you can state that you've cleared their credentials and if you can add more to these findings anyone can google in 10 minutes, please share

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  • @MasonR said:

    @CVPS_Chris said:

    Francisco said: The problem is that the admins of here and LEB posted their 3 year offers even though the company had far less than a year of actual life behind it.

    Always spreading lies about us. The owners of this company have been in the hosting business longer than you have. Stop trolling every ColoCrossing thread, grow up and move on its time.

    Hmmm... let's see.

    Hiformance's first wayback archive w/ content: 29 August 2012 [note only offering game servers...]
    Hiformance's first wayback archive offering VPS services: 20 October 2017
    Hiformance's first LEB feature: 24 November 2017 [merely 1 month after offering VPS services mostly in CC locations]

    ...and then we have buyvm who's first wayback capture is: 19 June 2010

    Letting a MineCraft hosting company pump out long-term unsustainable VPS deals (which is a brand new product for them) on your platform just because they rent servers from you guys is careless and irresponsible. Also seeing that they only became a registered business in November 2017 is another red flag. If it looks like shit and smells like shit, it probably is shit.

    If you see my first comment above, HiFormance first advertised on LEB in September 2017. Given that they were announced as an "extremely young" company, I wonder whether the company that existed in 2011 was really the same company (if yes, then the announcement was incorrect/misleading).

    In any case, I (perhaps incorrectly) took @CVPS_Chris to be referring to CC (and not to HiFormance).

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  • IshaqIshaq Member, Provider

    Who wants a 4GB VPS for $8.99/year?

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  • mfsmfs Banned, Member
    edited December 2018

    angstrom said: If you see my first comment above, HiFormance first advertised on LEB in September 2017.

    The company was established in November 2017, so they were at best taking orders as a company without being a company. Not sure how's that considered in Wyoming from a legal standpoint..

    I get a 404.
    It seems any post about hiformance are getting deleted from lowendbox.com after my comment.

    mfs said: According to the notoriously rogue website known as lowendbox.com

    That link, https://lowendbox.com/blog/hiformance-4gb-kvm-w-100gb-hdd-for-72-year-double-resources-by-paying-tri-annually/ , is now getting a 404 as well.

    EDIT: luckily, it's still in google's cache. And now, it's on archive.is.
    EDIT#2: and here's @angstrom 's link while we wait for LEB to fix their 404 issues, I'm sure they were 100% unintentional.

    I've left LET since February 2019, account made inactive on request.

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