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Looking for an affordable or self-hosted CRM that does this.

MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran
edited July 2018 in General

Hi guys,

I've been trying to find a nice looking CRM, affordable per user or self-hosted, that does this:

  • Basic CRM ; Meeting and/or Schedule ; Activity log;

  • Mobile Apps (Desktop App would also be nice but not exactly necessary);

  • Tasks with sub-tasks, ability to assign to team members etc;

  • Slack Integration, or Rocket.Chat (last one preferably);

  • Ability to import/export the clients through/to an API, as easy as possible;

  • Not a bloated front-end;

Any suggestions? I've tried many, really, many. Most important is the basic crm with meeting or call schedules and activity log so the team can see what's going on, tasks system, slack/rocket.chat integration, ability to import clients via API, or to export to an API.

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  • launchvpslaunchvps Member, Patron Provider

    Looks like Bitrix24 checks all of the boxes except Slack/Rocket.Chat integration:

    https://www.bitrix24.com/features/

    Looks like they had a Slack integration at one point in time. Not sure what happened with it:

    https://helpdesk.bitrix24.com/open/3606353/

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • ErnieErnie Patron Provider, Veteran

    Hubspot does most of those items and has a calendar feature. I believe its around $50/seat though.

    They also have a slack integration.

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @launchvps said:
    Looks like Bitrix24 checks all of the boxes except Slack/Rocket.Chat integration:

    https://www.bitrix24.com/features/

    Looks like they had a Slack integration at one point in time. Not sure what happened with it:

    https://helpdesk.bitrix24.com/open/3606353/

    Never liked bitrix24. Maybe its time to give it a try again. Im on mobile but that seems to be quite expensive?

    @Ernie said:
    Hubspot does most of those items and has a calendar feature. I believe its around $50/seat though.

    They also have a slack integration.

    Too expensive.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran
    edited July 2018

    MikePT said: I've tried many, really, many.

    It might be helpful if you say which you've used and why you didn't like them, otherwise this thread will likely be "I recommend this/already tried it and didn't like it because of X" ad nauseum.

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @launchvps said:
    Looks like Bitrix24 checks all of the boxes except Slack/Rocket.Chat integration:

    https://www.bitrix24.com/features/

    Looks like they had a Slack integration at one point in time. Not sure what happened with it:

    https://helpdesk.bitrix24.com/open/3606353/

    Also API on the 99USD license and so on. Too expensive. And both bitrix and hubspot are bloated.

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @raindog308 said:

    MikePT said: I've tried many, really, many.

    It might be helpful if you say which you've used and why you didn't like them, otherwise this thread will likely be "I recommend this/already tried it and didn't like it because of X" ad nauseum.

    Looking for opinions. Mentioned the features we need. I have tested many dozens. Cant even recall its names. Not looking for something I have not tested but opinions/feedback.

  • georgedatacentergeorgedatacenter Member, Patron Provider

    Have you tried Only office?

    has a good CRM

    https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/768/1*HBs-wo2cYvX0Zr3qyGF10A.png

    try it on and tell me

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  • HxxxHxxx Member
    edited July 2018

    Sounds to me that any of these two: vTiger (open source) or this other one at codecanyon : https://codecanyon.net/item/perfex-powerful-open-source-crm/14013737
    should work ok.

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  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    For a while, SugarCRM was popular until they went totally dickish on license...SuiteCRM is the community continuation:

    https://suitecrm.com/

    Does it do everything @MikePT needs? No idea.

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  • @raindog308 said:
    For a while, SugarCRM was popular until they went totally dickish on license...SuiteCRM is the community continuation:

    https://suitecrm.com/

    Does it do everything @MikePT needs? No idea.

    I was using SugarCRM as well, community version, but later I turn to SuiteCRM as well.

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    Thanks guys, I appreciate, I'll be reviewing those you suggested, cheers! :D

  • @MikePT said:
    I've been trying to find a nice looking CRM, affordable per user or self-hosted, that does this:

    Most of my clients use Zendesk and I've used it in the past as well. It has great integration options. An inexpensive option would be Zoho which is what I currently use.

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @birchbeer said:

    @MikePT said:
    I've been trying to find a nice looking CRM, affordable per user or self-hosted, that does this:

    Most of my clients use Zendesk and I've used it in the past as well. It has great integration options. An inexpensive option would be Zoho which is what I currently use.

    That's not a CRM as far as I know, it's a ticket system + knowledgebase, no?

  • @MikePT said:
    That's not a CRM as far as I know, it's a ticket system + knowledgebase, no?

    Opps - you are correct - Zendesk is ticketing. Brain fart. I should have elaborated. Zendesk have a marketplace kinda like Salesforce. And there are CRM overlays for Zendesk which I'm told work pretty well. I guess it depends on the direction that you come from. Some companies value the customer support (ticketing) experience and start with ticketing and then overlay the other customer relationship features.

    You can find the CRM addins for Zendesk here - also - you can find the Slack integration that you wanted as a app here. Zoho CRM integrates into Zendesk as well.

    https://www.zendesk.com/apps/directory/?q=CRM
    https://www.zendesk.com/support/features/customer-relationship-management-systems/

    Zoho has a CRM component which I do use. We also use their project management, sales mgt, and billing components of Zoho so as a bundle, it's really inexpensive.

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @birchbeer said:

    @MikePT said:
    That's not a CRM as far as I know, it's a ticket system + knowledgebase, no?

    Opps - you are correct - Zendesk is ticketing. Brain fart. I should have elaborated. Zendesk have a marketplace kinda like Salesforce. And there are CRM overlays for Zendesk which I'm told work pretty well. I guess it depends on the direction that you come from. Some companies value the customer support (ticketing) experience and start with ticketing and then overlay the other customer relationship features.

    You can find the CRM addins for Zendesk here - also - you can find the Slack integration that you wanted as a app here. Zoho CRM integrates into Zendesk as well.

    https://www.zendesk.com/apps/directory/?q=CRM
    https://www.zendesk.com/support/features/customer-relationship-management-systems/

    Zoho has a CRM component which I do use. We also use their project management, sales mgt, and billing components of Zoho so as a bundle, it's really inexpensive.

    Zoho CRM is interesting, Zendesk isn't, it's expensive and we'd be paying for a ticket system we don't need.

    I'll give a try to Zoho CRM, thank you! :D

  • williewillie Member

    I used Zendesk at an old job and thought it was crap. Could someone explain what these CRM thingies actually do, that a wiki wouldn't do perfectly well for a small group of techies? apt-get install gitit works for me.

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @willie said:
    I used Zendesk at an old job and thought it was crap. Could someone explain what these CRM thingies actually do, that a wiki wouldn't do perfectly well for a small group of techies? apt-get install gitit works for me.

    Customer Relationship Manager, a CRM is much more than just notes. :P

    I'm taking a look to ERPNext.com, seems to be what we're looking for, and they have it self-hosted too.

  • @willie said:
    I used Zendesk at an old job and thought it was crap. Could someone explain what these CRM thingies actually do, that a wiki wouldn't do perfectly well for a small group of techies? apt-get install gitit works for me.

    CRM as you probably know is customer relationship management. I'm guessing that different people will have different needs based on their business.

    So for me, it's the lifecycle on how we manage our interactions with customers, prospects, and leads.

    For example. it's the contact information for multiple people at a customer. If we are bidding on projects at a customer, it's how we track the interaction and the progress, if we win the engagement, it's how we manage the status and progress of the engagement. And when the engagement is done, it integrates into A/R for billing and invoicing. We also use it to remind us of keeping up with the relationship at existing customers or prospects. We may not have existing work with a customer but it manages our interactions so we don't let a relationship go stale.

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  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    A “project management app” could be anything from Basecamp to Microsoft Project to PlanView to Winderlist, depending on the seeker’s mind. CRM is the same. Some people would consider WHMCS a CRM.

  • imokimok Member

    Sorry I haven't read all the thread, but take a look to AgileCRM and see if it meets all of your requirements.

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @raindog308 said:
    A “project management app” could be anything from Basecamp to Microsoft Project to PlanView to Winderlist, depending on the seeker’s mind. CRM is the same. Some people would consider WHMCS a CRM.

    Not in our opinion, but, well, opinions differ. :P

    @imok said:
    Sorry I haven't read all the thread, but take a look to AgileCRM and see if it meets all of your requirements.

    Don't like AgileCRM. And it gets pretty expensive.

  • YuraYura Member

    @raindog308 said:
    Some people would consider WHMCS a CRM.

    I say, burn them!

  • williewillie Member
    edited July 2018

    birchbeer said:

    So for me, it's the lifecycle on how we manage our interactions with customers, prospects, and leads. ...

    Thanks, that helps, but this still sounds to me like a contacts/ticketing app with a time tracking feature that can export data for invoices. Can you tell me how many customers you track with yours, and how many of your own staff use it? Can everyone see all the data, or do individual staff have their own logins and have private pages that others can't see? MikePT same questions. I'm not trying to pitch a solution, just trying to understand what goes wrong with a low tech approach. I know Salesforce is the big name in this stuff but I presume it's too expensive and I don't know what it does.

  • BlaZeBlaZe Member, Host Rep

    ERPNext looks promising but I wasn't able to get it up running. I don't remember why but it was late night and I was half asleep but still had this as my last task of the day to install and go through ERPNext.

    Let us know if you try it.

  • HxxxHxxx Member

    Yup, it all comes down to the needs.

    @raindog308 said:
    A “project management app” could be anything from Basecamp to Microsoft Project to PlanView to Winderlist, depending on the seeker’s mind. CRM is the same. Some people would consider WHMCS a CRM.

  • williewillie Member
    edited July 2018

    Places I've worked (sw dev) have been addicted to tracking tools like Kanban and various others. They switch between them almost every week. There are usually multiple ones in use at any time, so you have to surf around between them to find your own tasks. It has mostly seemed like bullshit to me. The common factor has been Jira (Atlassian ticket system) which sucks but it's cheap and it does what's needed. It sounds to me like a contacts directory with links to Jira tickets does everything MikePT asked for?

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  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited July 2018

    @BlaZe said:
    ERPNext looks promising but I wasn't able to get it up running. I don't remember why but it was late night and I was half asleep but still had this as my last task of the day to install and go through ERPNext.

    Let us know if you try it.

    Haven't yet: https://github.com/frappe/bench seems to be easy using bench.

    @willie said:
    Places I've worked (sw dev) have been addicted to tracking tools like Kanban and various others. They switch between them almost every week. There are usually multiple ones in use at any time, so you have to surf around between them to find your own tasks. It has mostly seemed like bullshit to me. The common factor has been [[Jira (software)]] which sucks but it's cheap and it does what's needed. It sounds to me like a contacts directory with links to Jira tickets does everything MikePT asked for?

    I no where mentioned tickets. We need an internal tasks system, and CRM.

    CRM: Following the customer's activity with us, leads, prospects, scheduling meetings/calls, etc. We don't even invoice using it.

  • williewillie Member

    Tickets are a method of tracking tasks. Does a CRM use a different name for the same thing, or does it really do something different? Re "following the customer's activity": again that sounds like a contacts app, with tags for categories like leads, prospects, etc., connected up to a calendar to track appointments and reminders. I'm probably missing something, and am trying to figure out what it is.

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @willie said:
    Tickets are a method of tracking tasks. Does a CRM use a different name for the same thing, or does it really do something different? Re "following the customer's activity": again that sounds like a contacts app, with tags for categories like leads, prospects, etc., connected up to a calendar to track appointments and reminders. I'm probably missing something, and am trying to figure out what it is.

    A CRM isnt a ticket system. Check some of the suggestions above! :)

  • HxxxHxxx Member

    Did you said Jira from Atlassian sucks? Are we using the same product? There is no competitor for Jira. Jira is the Agile / Scrum God.

    Don't even mention that shitty Visual Studio Team Foundation. Don't you dare...

    @willie said:
    Places I've worked (sw dev) have been addicted to tracking tools like Kanban and various others. They switch between them almost every week. There are usually multiple ones in use at any time, so you have to surf around between them to find your own tasks. It has mostly seemed like bullshit to me. The common factor has been Jira (Atlassian ticket system) which sucks but it's cheap and it does what's needed. It sounds to me like a contacts directory with links to Jira tickets does everything MikePT asked for?

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