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Help with fake disputes

Hi guys,

I've been purchasing hosting and VPS from many providers.

Today I tried to make order at a decent provider for a nice Black Friday deal and their support told me that I was in dispute list of some providers like:

https://www.adroitssd.com
http://www.hostkoi.com
http://www.nividium.com
http://www.dalhosting.com
http://www.webalternative.ca

It's funny that I only opened a dispute before with http://www.hostkoi.com because of their bad service.

I've never heard of or signed up at:
https://www.adroitssd.com
http://www.nividium.com
http://www.dalhosting.com
http://www.webalternative.ca

What should I do now?

Can I sue them for fake disputes?

Please give me some advice.

Thanks in advance.

Comments

  • forget about them and moveon.

    Thanked by 2yakblack cece
  • MichaelCeeMichaelCee Barred
    edited November 2017

    You need to define/get a definition of "dispute". Is there a list of Paypal disputes?

    Or is it something like FraudRecord? Whatever the "list" is you should look at finding the creator/owner/website and requesting review/removal.

  • I do not see a reason why a provider will add fake fraud record. You must be registered with them so they can add records. Contact them and ask as am sure your friend did something with your paypal :)

  • @WHT said:
    I do not see a reason why a provider will add fake fraud record. You must be registered with them so they can add records. Contact them and ask as am sure your friend did something with your paypal :)

    I don't know about fake, but I do see quite a lot of "I saw they had one fraud record, so I've decided to add another one just to tell you I've seen the previous one" records

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    There is probably more than what OP told us.

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    yakblack said: Can I sue them for fake disputes?

    Yes contact a lawyer immediately and pay them the $500 to write them a letter.

  • @Ho-ost said:
    You need to define/get a definition of "dispute". Is there a list of Paypal disputes?

    Or is it something like FraudRecord? Whatever the "list" is you should look at finding the creator/owner/website and requesting review/removal.

    I only open a Paypal dispute with http://www.hostkoi.com/

    I do not even know the rest providers in that list. How can they put my in their dispute list?

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Who knows. Seeing you mumble about lawsuits over paypal disputes, this word "Karma" comes to my mind.

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider
    edited November 2017

    yakblack said: I do not even know the rest providers in that list. How can they put my in their dispute list?

    have you been using fake details when signing up like postcode/phone number?

    I see a lot of false flags becuase people think they can just enter 0000 and 1234567890 for post code and phone number, which matches it to every other pleb that tried to bypass the system.

    As they did not actually put 'your' details on there, it is just a hash, the hash matches because you have the same details as someone else.

    To be honest it is impossible to say without either having your email address or the fraudrecord url.

  • @yakblack said:

    @Ho-ost said:
    You need to define/get a definition of "dispute". Is there a list of Paypal disputes?

    Or is it something like FraudRecord? Whatever the "list" is you should look at finding the creator/owner/website and requesting review/removal.

    I only open a Paypal dispute with http://www.hostkoi.com/

    I do not even know the rest providers in that list. How can they put my in their dispute list?

    What list?

    Do these providers have a .txt or a google doc? I don't understand what you personally mean by calling it a list

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    Ho-ost said: Do these providers have a .txt or a google doc? I don't understand what you personally mean by calling it a list

    it will be fraudrecord.

    Thanked by 1MichaelCee
  • @AnthonySmith said:

    Ho-ost said: Do these providers have a .txt or a google doc? I don't understand what you personally mean by calling it a list

    it will be fraudrecord.

    Then something doesn't add up, if OP has never had accounts with the sites that have reported him for Fraud.

    What's missing?

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    Ho-ost said: Then something doesn't add up, if OP has never had accounts with the sites that have reported him for Fraud.

    What's missing?

    like I said, farudrecord just stores hashes not actual info, if you sign up and 1 element matches then you will get someone elses bad wrap, like if you enter the same fake phone number as someone with a real fraud record.

    That is why it is impossible to know for sure unless he gives us his email address or gets the fraud record URL.

    Or he can sign up with inception hosting (dont actually pay) I will check your record and let you know what the issue is.

    Thanked by 1MichaelCee
  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Selective memory perhaps. I've actually seen people with selective memory about traffic / parking tickets.

    Thanked by 1WSS
  • @AnthonySmith said:

    Ho-ost said: Then something doesn't add up, if OP has never had accounts with the sites that have reported him for Fraud.

    What's missing?

    like I said, farudrecord just stores hashes not actual info, if you sign up and 1 element matches then you will get someone elses bad wrap, like if you enter the same fake phone number as someone with a real fraud record.

    That is why it is impossible to know for sure unless he gives us his email address or gets the fraud record URL.

    The solution to that would be to provide real information, so the anti-fraud system actually works as intended, and at the same time, how many providers actually deny service based on one phone number or one ip match and nothing else?

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    Ho-ost said: The solution to that would be to provide real information, so the anti-fraud system actually works as intended, and at the same time, how many providers actually deny service based on one phone number or one ip match and nothing else?

    have you seen some of the shit of fraud record? haha, have you seen some of the people here with provider tags? haha.

    Thanked by 3Chronic Sokaris07 WSS
  • Thank you all for suggestion. I just ignored that provider and grabbed some awesome deals from other guys ;)

  • Use a different email from a proxy IP.

  • @yakblack said:
    Thank you all for suggestion. I just ignored that provider and grabbed some awesome deals from other guys ;)

    Thats good but do ask the provider what kind of fraud record the provider is using... it for your own betterment, and if possible do try to get our info removed from it as multiple providers would be using it(perhaps)..

  • FraudRecord is the best thing since sliced bread but it cut off your thumbs.

  • Hosting providers protecting themselves using FraudRecord or FraudLabs Pro. It is a risk management strategy. If you got listed, you might want to consider to move on and get deals from others.

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