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Need a copyright-free (such as but not limited to DMCA/EUCD) unmanaged VPS provider

Hero1711Hero1711 Member
edited April 2017 in Requests

This is for a small anime fansub site (video files are stored on offsite file hosters).

Spec requirements:
Around 10000-15000 Cloud Flare uncached requests per day.
Around 100-150MB Cloud Flare uncached transfer per day.
Site is WordPress with mostly static contents (via SuperCache, nginx). 512MB-769MB of RAM is good.
At least 15GB of space. HDD is not a problem.
Any virtualization technology is fine.

As cheap as possible. Budget is maximum 5USD/month.

Thanks.

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  • quickquick Member

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran
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  • Hero1711Hero1711 Member
    edited April 2017

    Which location is immune to copyright takedown? I did some searches on buyvm and saw that EUCD is still taken into account, was it correct?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Hero1711 said:

    Which location is immune to copyright takedown? I did some searches on buyvm and saw that EUCD is still taken into account?

    Well LUX is DMCA free. You aren't going to get slapped like that over some anime stuff. I mean if @raindog308 can keep his tentical porn collection online without issue I wouldn't worry too much.

    Francisco

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  • Hero1711Hero1711 Member
    edited April 2017

    @Francisco said:

    @Hero1711 said:

    Which location is immune to copyright takedown? I did some searches on buyvm and saw that EUCD is still taken into account?

    Well LUX is DMCA free. You aren't going to get slapped like that over some anime stuff. I mean if @raindog308 can keep his tentical porn collection online without issue I wouldn't worry too much.

    Francisco

    Well, that site was on a US-based VPS provider and got slapped by DMCA. Isn't it should be the same for EUCD if the VPS is in EU?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Hero1711 said:
    Well, that site was on a US-based VPS provider and got slapped by DMCA. Isn't it should be the same for EUCD if the VPS is in EU?

    I can't remember the last time I've seen any EU related copyright notice hit my inbox.

    I legitimately think I've never seen one, only ever DMCA's.

    Francisco

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  • If I understand it right, this is a special case because anime publishers usually don't get get upset about this fan stuff. So it's not really about ignoring notices, but more about finding a host who won't freak out about hosting the site unless notices actually arrive.

  • Hero1711Hero1711 Member
    edited April 2017

    @willie said:
    If I understand it right, this is a special case because anime publishers usually don't get get upset about this fan stuff. So it's not really about ignoring notices, but more about finding a host who won't freak out about hosting the site unless notices actually arrive.

    In the last case, the notices (from King Records Co., Ltd.) arrived to the VPS provider (and they forwarded to the customer via tickets) and after 7 days of non-takedown, the service was terminated.

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited April 2017

    Hero1711 said: As cheap as possible. Budget is maximum 5USD/month.

    No such thing. You look for RBN services. We paid back then thousands of Euro per server per month for such things with Wahome.

    Francisco said: You aren't going to get slapped like that over some anime stuff

    You do. Oh boy. You do.

    Plus:

    Hero1711 said: King Records Co., Ltd

    This is music, not Anime.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    William said: You do. Oh boy. You do.

    Most I see is FUNIMATION throwing DMCA's but..that's DMCA's.

    Francisco

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  • williewillie Member
    edited April 2017

    Ru****n B******s N*****k?! edited

  • sinsin Member

    cociu or mikrovps might work for you

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  • With this low budget i don't think ISP are going to ignore your abuse report..

  • Hero1711Hero1711 Member
    edited April 2017

    @William said:

    Hero1711 said: As cheap as possible. Budget is maximum 5USD/month.

    No such thing. You look for RBN services. We paid back then thousands of Euro per server per month for such things with Wahome.

    Francisco said: You aren't going to get slapped like that over some anime stuff

    You do. Oh boy. You do.

    Plus:

    Hero1711 said: King Records Co., Ltd

    This is music, not Anime.

    I'm not the owner of the site and it is down now so I can't check. Maybe there was a track from the OST of the anime? Fansub sites may post both the anime video files and the OST audio files.

  • @Hero1711 said:

    @William said:

    Hero1711 said: As cheap as possible. Budget is maximum 5USD/month.

    No such thing. You look for RBN services. We paid back then thousands of Euro per server per month for such things with Wahome.

    Francisco said: You aren't going to get slapped like that over some anime stuff

    You do. Oh boy. You do.

    Plus:

    Hero1711 said: King Records Co., Ltd

    This is music, not Anime.

    I'm not the owner of the site and it is down now so I can't check. Maybe there was a track of the OST of the anime? Fansub sites may post both the anime video files and the OST audio files.

    This is correct. Usually the OST's are latest singles of some local artists, which then creates some problems.

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  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep
    edited April 2017

    @Francisco said:

    @Hero1711 said:
    Well, that site was on a US-based VPS provider and got slapped by DMCA. Isn't it should be the same for EUCD if the VPS is in EU?

    I can't remember the last time I've seen any EU related copyright notice hit my inbox.

    I legitimately think I've never seen one, only ever DMCA's.

    Francisco

    That's surprising. Just to name one of many, IP-Echelon format their notices in a way that can be considered valid for both DMCA and EUCD. It doesn't explicitly mention EUCD, but it is a notice of alleged infringement typically with all required details and if so should be handled as per the local (to the server) implementation of the EUCD.

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  • YuraYura Member

    @willie said:

    Russian Business Network?!

    Did you really have to say it out loud? I don't feel pangs of nostalgia, quite the opposite, actually.

  • Heh, I couldn't figure out what he meant and had to use a web search. I hadn't heard that abbreviation before.

  • YuraYura Member

    @willie, you can dig through Kreb's archives on that tragic story, if you can stomach it. Though, his narrative is very narrow and incomplete. Weird times it were. That is certain.

  • BarisBaris Member
    edited June 2018

    Did you try --removed--?

    Above you budget ($8) and less HHD space, but last time I contacted them they were fine hosting stuff like that. Support told me they will only shutdown the instance if legal actions are taken inside Vietnam.

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  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited April 2017

    willie said: Business

    Yes. Wahome, 2x4, Ukrtelecom, Hosting.ua among few others. Mostly dead (some people literally, and the fucker Flyman is still nowhere to be found) by now. Go google the PDF if interested.

    Major carding places back then especially for German speaking boards/things. Not cheap and 2x4 ripped you off, but many (hehe) made much money on selling hosting services to carding boards and similar directly from Wahome and others.

    I actually was indicted in Austria for trying to sell Chinese servers to someone in the carding scene, but this was dropped by no certain proof this was to be used illegal and my wording being pretty "open ended". Guy made a deal (also Austrian), sold out a few people and i think is by now free again.

    Hero1711 said: I'm not the owner of the site and it is down now so I can't check. Maybe there was a track from the OST of the anime? Fansub sites may post both the anime video files and the OST audio files.

    No, this is a Japanese music company. They do JPOP. No Anime. What you have there seems to be a music warez site.

    Yura said: Weird times it were. That is certain

    Not really, it was pure business. You sold and got money, they did what they wanted and everyone was happy, Then the FSB actually got staff and decided internet crime is bad.

  • YuraYura Member

    @William said:

    Yura said: Weird times it were. That is certain

    Not really, it was pure business. You sold and got money, they did what they wanted and everyone was happy, Then the FSB actually got staff and decided internet crime is bad.

    I enjoy reading your posts and appreciate your vast knowledge. I'm aware of your business ethics that anything flies if it doesn't hurt you or rubs you in wrong way regarding religious or sexual minority rights. Good for you. But shit me not about CP on RBN and businesses that sprung from and around it. It was absolutely catastrophic. It makes my blood boil all over again.

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited April 2017

    Yura said: Good for you. But shit me not about CP on RBN and businesses that sprung from and around it. It was absolutely catastrophic. It makes my blood boil all over again.

    RBN had nothing to do with CP. RBN was only hacking and later state sponsored hacking, financed by carding hosting and similar, then owning ISPs and a few DCs. Stop spreading lies. CP is, and was also then, freely available and does not generate money or negligible amounts. What you mean are few certain UA hosts that had "nudist" and similar content which - at the time - was fully legal.

    At best times the core RBN parts made millions per week, mostly with normal spam and hosting other spammers.

    CP was also then, and still is, one of the few things the FSB reacts on, so it was always in the RBN interest to avoid it and any issues with it aside that even most Russians have seemingly morals in that area. Same why everyone had CIS IPs blocked, what RU police could not access was not investigated.

  • YuraYura Member

    @William said:

    Yura said: Good for you. But shit me not about CP on RBN and businesses that sprung from and around it. It was absolutely catastrophic. It makes my blood boil all over again.

    RBN had nothing to do with CP. RBN was only hacking and later state sponsored hacking, financed by carding hosting and similar, then owning ISPs and a few DCs. Stop spreading lies. CP is, and was also then, freely available and does not generate money or negligible amounts. What you mean are few certain UA hosts that had "nudist" and similar content which - at the time - was fully legal.

    At best times the core RBN parts made millions per week, mostly with normal spam and hosting other spammers.

    Maybe there is such a thing as "normal spam" for you but in reality spam takes very concrete forms. RBN and their worst friend were into two types of businesses: pornography and pharmacy. And they promoted it via spam, that's obvious enough. Cheapest pills they could find and most perverse rape, zoo, snuff, CP to keep those card credentials flowing into their hands. Ironically, it is safer that way - not too many dickheads would call the police and blame Russians (and Belarusians to be fair here) for stealing their money spent on that kind of porn.

    Have you not known that those millions need to be cleaned and cashed? ChronoPay, Alfa Bank shenanigans, rings the bell? You stopped way too short when spoke only of ISP and DC. They had to build infrastructure to funnel tainted money and diversify. But I get off tangent.

    I have no idea and don't wish to find out why you are even trying to whitewash RBN atrocities but it ruined my day. You are either don't quite know the scope of operations or else.

    and any issues with it aside that even most Russians have seemingly morals in that area.

    I don't bite, wrong target. Goodbye.

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited April 2017

    Yura said: RBN and their worst friend were into two types of businesses: pornography and pharmacy

    No, that were customers, which ironically were mostly AMERICANS.

    McColo was the CP spammer, an American company unrelated to the RBN, contracting some services.

    Yura said: Cheapest pills they could find

    No, that was handed off to the Indians which had not much to do with the actual spam side. There never was anything shipped out of CIS (which never would have arrived anyway).

    Yura said: Have you not known that those millions need to be cleaned and cashed?

    No, they did not mostly - WM* was converted to cash via first direct exchanges and later LR.

    Cash in CIS is not questioned (or was, then, now more). Origin of your USD is not relevant.

    Yura said: ChronoPay

    Not part of RBN, only cooperator, also other business model.

    Yura said: They had to build infrastructure to funnel tainted money and diversify. But I get off tangent.

    Which, at the time, was not illegal in Russia either. Only unpaid tax. Conspiracy to a crime is up to this day not a crime, only execution of it.

    Yura said: I have no idea and don't wish to find out why you are even trying to whitewash RBN atrocities but it ruined my day. You are either don't quite know the scope of operations or else.

    I don't, i provide information. If you like it or not is not my problem. I made my money already (and lost it).

    Also, not true - i stated in my first or second post that people literally died. Shot, weird accidents, entirely families vanished and so on. I never underestimated the size and extent of what the RBN was.

    Yura said: I don't bite, wrong target. Goodbye.

    Flyman, as well as most other RBN heads, held Russian passports.


    Come back 2022 when the Austrian statute of limitations expires on certain crimes and i gladly tell you much more than you probably ever knew or wanted to know.

  • YuraYura Member

    @William, all you said in your last post amounts to No True Scotsman fallacy: Not RBN but their customer/contractor/3rdparty/etc. If only thing they did was to provide hosting to all those "non-RBN" scambags and criminals it would equal RBN to be at least actus reus (accessory) or full on accomplish in all those atrocities. I hear you, you disagree. Then we have to disagree on this. I can move on, no problem.

    If you like it or not is not my problem. I made my money already (and lost it).

    >

    Also, not true - i stated in my first or second post that people literally died. Shot, weird accidents, entirely families vanished and so on. I never underestimated the size and extent of what the RBN was.

    I quote below your first reply to my message. Completely reverse of what you said right now.

    @William said:

    Yura said: Weird times it were. That is certain

    Not really, it was pure business. You sold and got money, they did what they wanted and everyone was happy, Then the FSB actually got staff and decided internet crime is bad.

    Anyways, thank you for your time and input.

    You can carry on this topic, but I exhausted my desire to speak of it and don't think my mind will ever align with yours.

  • YuraYura Member

    @William said:

    Come back 2022 when the Austrian statute of limitations expires on certain crimes and i gladly tell you much more than you probably ever knew or wanted to know.

    I'm all about turning over pages, especially the bad ones. If by 2022 I will be arsed to come back to that story, then it would be least of my problems. There are better things in life, William.

  • Hero1711Hero1711 Member
    edited April 2017

    @William said:
    No, this is a Japanese music company. They do JPOP. No Anime. What you have there seems to be a music warez site.

    Well they now also do anime OST I guess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Girl_Lyrical_Nanoha

    King Records has adapted several soundtracks and drama CDs from the series.

  • Hero1711Hero1711 Member
    edited April 2017

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