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DB as a service

I see Amazon RDS or Google providing DB as a separate service for customers. I remember Prometeus used to provide mysql (not purely as a service model, but Thier VPS) not anymore.

Is there any other providers who provide this. Typically with HA and scalability options.

Is there a market for seperation product line offering for VPS providers. Could be a value added services as well.

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  • cleardb.com, microsoft azure are 2 more that come to mind

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  • yomeroyomero Member
    edited January 2017

    Apparently online.net will be doing this. I signed for the beta but haven't received the details.

    Buyvm does this also iirc?

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  • and OVH.com I think is starting something

  • In assuming having a DB far your application would be slow. Online.net and buyVM seems interesting as they also have VM. But online.net VPS does not have great CPU spec.
    Shall check on cleardb for latency.

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  • williewillie Member
    edited January 2017

    There's lots of these at many price levels-- I'd even say it's a crowded market.

    BuyVM's are only for VPS hosted at BuyVM, not a separate product, fwiw.

    runabove.net has a few things of this type.

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    #lexit spread the word.

  • Bit surprised iwstack or lunanode or nodion or any other cloud vps providers don't have these.

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  • BuyVM http://wiki.buyvm.net/doku.php/sharedsql (great service)... I think Vpsdime have this too

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  • Do the new slices still come with sharedsql? @Francisco

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    I like my uptime down low and my servers all hacked. Can see me droppin' twenty-fours with a router in the rack.
    Ya like ya Switch-Ports hot and ya servers all hacked. If ya pings real high and ya networks pitch black.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    We never gave shared SQL for free, it was always a $1.00/month additional cost.

    Francisco

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  • pbgbenpbgben Member, Provider

    Online.net have a DBaaS going in beta atm

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    nagug said: Bit surprised iwstack or lunanode or nodion or any other cloud vps providers don't have these.

    Spin up 2 servers with MariaDB; it's not like RDS does much more either - you literally get EC2 instances you just can't access.

  • @William said:

    nagug said: Bit surprised iwstack or lunanode or nodion or any other cloud vps providers don't have these.

    Spin up 2 servers with MariaDB; it's not like RDS does much more either - you literally get EC2 instances you just can't access.

    I was planning the similar approach with a xtradb cluster.

    @francisco given mysql uses most resources for me, I think for a service with HA and scalability, it's worth paying more. I always felt SQL replication is bit more complicated than file replications.

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  • @William said:

    nagug said: Bit surprised iwstack or lunanode or nodion or any other cloud vps providers don't have these.

    Spin up 2 servers with MariaDB; it's not like RDS does much more either - you literally get EC2 instances you just can't access.

    RDS does a whole lot more than that.

    No longer with ND

  • Looks like OVH is providing such service.

  • Reading this made me think... What if DO had this one click app template where it deploy 2 VPS with MariaDB with replication ON. I'm lazy I would pay that. @jarland do it!

  • williewillie Member
    edited January 2017

    Better make sure they're on separate nodes! There should still be daily backups and all that too. I guess DO provides that though, maybe at extra cost.

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    #lexit spread the word.

  • teamaccteamacc Member
    edited January 2017

    @Francisco said:
    We never gave shared SQL for free, it was always a $1.00/month additional cost.

    Francisco

    My bad, but will it still be available on/with slices for that additional cost?

    I like my uptime down low and my servers all hacked. Can see me droppin' twenty-fours with a router in the rack.
    Ya like ya Switch-Ports hot and ya servers all hacked. If ya pings real high and ya networks pitch black.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    Yup :)

    Francisco

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  • @willie said:
    Better make sure they're on separate nodes!

    >
    >

    Unmanaged, but automated is the way to go. DB cluster (mariadb or nosql or equivalent), block storage (ceph or equivalent) and host nodes. Any day worth paying for that combo. That leaves people to focus on application and not on the infrastructure backup etc.

    So we have
    1. Amazon
    2. Azure
    3. Cleardb
    4. Google cloud
    5. buyVM
    6. Online.net (beta)
    7. Ovh

    Anybody else I missed?

    Thanks
    Nagu

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  • I have used https://www.compose.com/ in the past. Very expensive but worth it.

    No longer with ND

  • Digital Ocean, RamNode, Vultr

    @nagug said:

    @willie said:
    Better make sure they're on separate nodes!

    >
    >

    Unmanaged, but automated is the way to go. DB cluster (mariadb or nosql or equivalent), block storage (ceph or equivalent) and host nodes. Any day worth paying for that combo. That leaves people to focus on application and not on the infrastructure backup etc.

    So we have
    1. Amazon
    2. Azure
    3. Cleardb
    4. Google cloud
    5. buyVM
    6. Online.net (beta)
    7. Ovh

    Anybody else I missed?

    Thanks
    Nagu

  • BeliraBelira Member, Provider

    Going the Digital Ocean route will give you the freedom to locate your production server (possibly a testing server) and more relevantly your DB server on the same LAN. Digital Ocean also allow private networking between your servers - for extra performance boost.

    With Digital Ocean, you would manage the servers yourself, but would have the required features of snapshot images and backups for redundancy.

    @Hxxx said:
    Digital Ocean, RamNode, Vultr

    @nagug said:

    @willie said:
    Better make sure they're on separate nodes!

    >
    >

    Unmanaged, but automated is the way to go. DB cluster (mariadb or nosql or equivalent), block storage (ceph or equivalent) and host nodes. Any day worth paying for that combo. That leaves people to focus on application and not on the infrastructure backup etc.

    So we have
    1. Amazon
    2. Azure
    3. Cleardb
    4. Google cloud
    5. buyVM
    6. Online.net (beta)
    7. Ovh

    Anybody else I missed?

    Thanks
    Nagu

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  • maybe worth checking heroku

  • @nagug said:

    @willie said:
    Better make sure they're on separate nodes!

    >
    >

    Unmanaged, but automated is the way to go. DB cluster (mariadb or nosql or equivalent), block storage (ceph or equivalent) and host nodes. Any day worth paying for that combo. That leaves people to focus on application and not on the infrastructure backup etc.

    So we have
    1. Amazon
    2. Azure
    3. Cleardb
    4. Google cloud
    5. buyVM
    6. Online.net (beta)
    7. Ovh

    Anybody else I missed?

    Thanks
    Nagu

    Prometeus

    Nothing for now :)

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Moderator

    There are other players out there, but for DBaaS it seems everyone wants to be super-enterprise. e.g., enterprisedb has a DBaaS offering, but it's one of those "contact them for pricing". Lots of places like that.

    If price is no obstacle, there's Oracle Public Cloud and they do DBaaS...

    There's also a bit of blurring of lines. You could run a DB on OpenShift, but is that really DBaaS?

    I assume you're only looking for SQL. If NoSQL, there's another pile (e.g., MongoHQ, etc.)

    For LET support, please visit the support desk.

  • @raindog308

    Price is always a concern. You don't need to enterprisy . Good old shared mysql by Prometeus or buyVM is sufficient. But available with HA(cluster) and is scalable. In otherwords a good template for cloud instance. Afterall everything is close to compute instance onlym I spin up DB instance don't worry about you forming cluster etc. That's good and sufficient. simple LET style.

    Today Prometeus don't provide it. Wish iwstack had it. Do or ramnode or Vultr is DIY. If DIY, then every body who provides private IP can be added to the list. Heroku uses cleardb. May be they have their own. Others are crazy costly.

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  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    BradND said: RDS does a whole lot more than that.

    No, AURORA does a lot more, MySQL 5.5 and even 5.6 does not do anything you could not configure yourself in a few hours on EC2 and 2 ELBs. For a hefty price tag.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    For what it's worth we have plans this year to finally merge it into stallion as a properly managed addon instead of through cPanel like we do now. I'd like to have it as an HA cluster within each location.

    Price will stay the same.

    Francisco

    BuyVM - Free DirectAdmin, Softaculous, & Blesta! / Anycast Support! / Windows 2008, 2012, & 2016! / Unmetered Bandwidth!
    BuyShared - Shared & Reseller Hosting / cPanel + Softaculous + CloudLinux / Pure SSD! / Free Dedicated IP Address
  • jcalebjcaleb Moderator

    Francisco said: Price will stay the same.

    How do you limit a neighbor abusing the database?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @jcaleb said:

    Francisco said: Price will stay the same.

    How do you limit a neighbor abusing the database?

    We just keep an eye on things and make sure the nodes are turned well enough to not get into those kinda of positions.

    -16:03:42- addons01.frantech.ca:~ :: root # mysqladmin status

    Uptime: 1848937 Threads: 130 Questions: 5968469795 Slow queries: 5481 Opens: 486777 Flush tables: 2 Open tables: 2048 Queries per second avg: 3228.054

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  • GamerTech24GamerTech24 Member
    edited January 2017

    OVH's is avalible on their sunrise manager for free and is hosted in france but has been kinda slow from what I've experienced.

    They also offer it as a professional service here: https://www.ovh.ie/web-hosting/sql-options.xml
    (this is most likely faster than the free sunrise one)

  • Would anyone be interested in search engine as a service?

    #lexit spread the word.

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