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yomeroyomero Member
edited July 2012 in Providers
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  • DamianDamian Member

    We had an incoming DDoS, which they decided to rectify by unplugging our network drop. Not a valid fix method...

    Atjeu mentioned something about not wanting to keep hosting us. If we can't come to an agreement, we'll have to make a hard decision about moving datacenters again, or throwing in the towel and refunding everyone's money.

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  • @Damian Hopefully you will find a solution

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  • RobertRobert Member
    edited July 2012

    Yeah, both of mine down too. Sporadic for most of the morning here (UK time) with massive packet loss but some pings getting through. Now it's completely down.

    I'm wondering if they were being DDOS'd and they've now been null routed or something.

    Anyway, hope everything's OK and that they're back alive and kicking soon!

    Edit: Ah, I see Damian's responded above already!

  • jcalebjcaleb Moderator

    hope there is solution Damian, love your vps =)

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  • I would be sad if this happens. Throwin' the towel, i mean. M

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  • @Damian if there is something I can do, please ask without problems...

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  • flyfly Member

    i suggest you pick your datacenters not solely on pricing. the fact that you've had to migrate datacenters twice already...

    if you're looking in phoenix, talk to some known dc's such as phoenixnap or something.

  • Dude...

    If you need anything just let us know I'm sure most of us are more than willing to help.

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  • http://www.atjeu.com/ Their website loads sooo slow..

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  • RobertRobert Member

    Looks like they've plugged it back in. DDOS must still be in progress though as most pings aren't making it through.

  • @kbar sometimes its not as simple as that. You need a DC partnership and partnerships take time to develop. If a new DC was moved into and a few DDOS' have happened they'll tend to kick a client out as they'll be marked a trouble client (no matter how much you pay).

    Don't give up @Damian you've spent a great deal of time building a service that a lot of people really like and you shouldn't given in to a DDOS kiddie.

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  • hope you can solve the problem @Damian and get the best solution for you both with atjeu and client aswell.

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  • @Jeffrey said: http://www.atjeu.com/ Their website loads sooo slow..

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  • DamianDamian Member

    Thanks everyone, we'll keep plugging away at them to get people back online. In the meantime, it looks like we'll have to solicit quotes again.

    @prometeus: Thank you!

    @joepie91: it's a really old datacenter, so it's not surprising. Their support system are a bunch of perl scripts. Who uses perl anymore? It wasn't til after we moved that we found out that they don't have any way to support us doing customer-sourced blackholing.

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  • @damian -- I love your service, and I hope that this DC will turn around and be "good".

    @Joepie91 -- LOL Dreamweaver made? -- I refused to create my website in college based on tables, while we were taught that, purely made it in HTML using NP++ (Tutor was all "WHAT THE FUCK?")

    Anyway... Here's a version of the site I made using tables... http://www.dotslashhosting.com/ (yeah.. it sucks. don't hate, mail script works tho.)

    PhoenixNAP is "good" -- I've never had a problem with that DC and providers inside of it. IOFlood and SecuredServers are there, I'm sure some other providers are there too -- Ask @ShardHost on his provider, I think he's somewhere around there, and he's having no problems as far as I know of, anyhow.

    Good luck mate, and I hope it's resolved -- If you need anything, the great guys here at LET can help :']!!!

  • @Damian said: support us doing customer-sourced blackholing.

    The problem is: have they the correct tools to identify the target? Blackholing is as easy as to establish a private AS bgp session with a bird instance and using community...

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  • DamianDamian Member

    @prometeus said: The problem is: have they the correct tools to identify the target? Blackholing is as easy as to establish a private AS bgp session with a bird instance and using community...

    They managed to narrow it down to the IP of a user who signed up yesterday. I'm also aware of how easy it is to blackhole a source, but when I poked at them repeatedly for support on the issue, they mentioned that they have to call Cox and ELI, their carriers, to blackhole an address.

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  • @Damian said: they mentioned that they have to call Cox and ELI, their carriers, to blackhole an address.

    do you know the nature of the ddos, it was an udp flood?

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  • DamianDamian Member

    @prometeus said: do you know the nature of the ddos, it was an udp flood?

    Not sure yet. So far all I know is that it was 700mbit, and somehow managed to kill their entire network.

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  • @Damian said: Not sure yet. So far all I know is that it was 700mbit, and somehow managed to kill their entire network.

    they are underpowered somewhere.... maybe they do some firewalling / filtering / dpi ...

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  • yomeroyomero Member

    @joepie91 I still use width and height, because it works and is quick. Doesn't have nothing to do with this ¬_¬ ffs.

    Back on topic. Thanks for the information. I hope you will solve it in some way.

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  • TaylorTaylor Member

    That's awful that they can pull the plug on you like that, but if they have to do all that calling to block an ip, I guess they no not have a choice if it's affecting all clients.

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  • DamianDamian Member

    Adam and I are sending quote requests to colo@, phoenixnap, and cybertrails. We'll see what happens.

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  • PADPAD Member

    Get out while you can, even if they get better, just run for the hills.

  • Which DC is that? And how come 700mbps took down their entire network? A couple of weeks ago I had ~650 up to 850mbps attack according to the graphs from the switch, targeted to a client of myne and the server was not even kicked offline, didn't even have to log through kvm, as normal SSH was working fine. The DC nullrouted the IP relatively fast, though. And I can not say that they are superb, so I can conclude that your DC is not quite good, you should switch the DC as soon as you can.

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  • PADPAD Member

    A combination of old hardware and old support, if you ask me @LiquidHost.

  • DamianDamian Member
    edited July 2012

    colo@ couldn't answer our questions over the phone. So they're kinda out-of-the-running.

    @PAD: Exactly. We should have scissored when we determined that no IRC was allowed, but sometimes we're just stupid and need to be beaten to learn.

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  • @yomero said: @joepie91 I still use width and height, because it works and is quick. Doesn't have nothing to do with this ¬_¬ ffs.

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  • Ah man that's bad news, had a word with Gabe over at ioflood, he has racks in Phoenix and is a top guy also very good at reacting to DOS attacks?

  • yomeroyomero Member

    @joepie91 said: style="width: 100px; height: 200px;"

    Yes, I know. But is offtopic and nobody cares u_u Design... yiak...

  • DamianDamian Member
    edited July 2012

    @AnthonySmith said: he has racks in Phoenix

    Any idea what DC he's in?

    (edit) nevermind, looked it up on their website (/edit)

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  • cnzhhicnzhhi Member
    edited July 2012

    I have a 32mb plan, good VPS.

  • PADPAD Member

    Wouldn't recommend going with IOFlood, though they're great, when I was with them (4months ago maybe?) (and was with them for around a year) they couldn't offer me anything higher than 100mbit because their entire customer base was all on one 1gbit of bandwidth and they wouldn't upgrade, this isn't good for incoming attacks, so for your situation I wouldn't recommend this, best to go directly with the DC.

  • @PAD

    I would say they have upgraded now as InceptionHosting are running 1Gbit lines.

  • PADPAD Member

    @GetKVM_Ash

    That's good to hear, and is a benefit if he does go with them, but I would still recommend going directly with a DC rather than a smaller provider, with a smaller provider the support is great (IOFlood superb) but you do have growing pains and can't enjoy some of the benefits of big infrastructure.

  • @PAD

    Depends on your needs. Some times a smaller provider can be a better choice for some people.

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  • DamianDamian Member

    cybertrails wasn't able to give an answer on anything til they 'talk it over with their newtowk engineers', and they get there at 11AM. It's 9:40am at the moment.

    Phoenixnap looks good until IP addresses, which are $1/month. We're paying 29 cents apiece for IP addresses at the moment. If we went with Phoenixnap, we'd have to cancel our recent promo for the 32mb VPS, which seems to be what people like. Additionally, i'm not sure if we want to pay $1032/month just for IP addresses.

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  • @Damian I am sure that Phoenixnap would do a discount for bigger subnets, wouldn't they? Did you talk with them?

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  • DamianDamian Member

    @LiquidHost said: Did you talk with them?

    Adam did, though i'm not certain if he specified we'd be buying a /22... I'll ask him.

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  • @PAD They recently upgraded their backbone to 10G , I was able to score a 1Gbit line from them working great. Couldn't recommend ioflood more

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  • @Damian - Vouch for PhoenixNAP/SecuredServers :)

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  • @Fliphost -- IoFlood is in PhoenixNap :D! -- ioFlood is also really good, I've used them before.

  • @Fliphost yea I have one of my nodes over there. Gabe is just awesome.

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  • We use Secured Servers, and can certainly vouch for support/networking over there

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  • DamianDamian Member

    i/o in Phoenix wasn't able to accomodate our IP requirements.

    We may be going with Eonix/Infinitie through PhoenixNAP if we can work something out.

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  • Ah okay. I've heard that Infinitie's support is bad, but not 100% sure on that. Their phone support takes a while from my experience when I tested it out.

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  • I heard a lot of bad things about Infinitie myself aswell.

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  • @Damian said: We had an incoming DDoS,

    i hope that's not because this thread

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  • DamianDamian Member

    @AH-Dominic said: We use Secured Servers, and can certainly vouch for support/networking over there

    What kind of pricing do you get on IPs? If you'd rather not say, no worries.

    Regarding Eonix/infinitie, they were suggested by @ShardHost. @ShardHost, any input?

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