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  • YAY!

  • MunMun Member

    ... can I come to the EU, pls?

  • The no roaming fees thing is stupid IMHO. Now the people who don't need or use roaming will need to pay for those who use it.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    rds100 said: The no roaming fees thing is stupid IMHO. Now the people who don't need or use roaming will need to pay for those who use it.

    Not really, the market will not allow it. This was not really a cost for them, was just a way to make money by staying unconnected for the big ones and force the small ones to pay for the privilege. Let's see if vodafone will be able to raise prices invoking this argument. People will simply go to the smaller operators which will be able to lower theirs.
    That was a smart move.
    As for the net neutrality, that is harder, there will be a lot of resistance and subterfuges.

  • @Maounique no cost? You mean international fiber optic lines are free?

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    Well, almost no cost, because they dont have to get a new fiber across the valleys and lakes in EU, we have exchanges, ffs. Also, there is some cost with drafting and signing contracts, measuring the traffic, etc, but only the big providers which used their position to put taxes on the smaller ones will lose and they can afford it. If not, leave the market for the smaller ones, after all, US will protect them, they can always go over there, the consumer and small companies will always lose in US, so it is an ideal market if you are big.

  • Why are they comparing USA's move on net neutrality to the EU? The court system is completely disconnected from the law making part of the government.

  • Uh oh.. I think I need to move to EU if it's really promise an internet freedom... Any suggestions to which country I should be in? :D

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    Anomaly said: Any suggestions to which country I should be in?

    I know in Romania there is no censorship that in enforced (well, apart from child porn hosting and a few other things, but that is normal, even I agree with it) and prices are really low. You can live with 200 Eur a month if you are modest and have a small apartment, food is good and plenty, you can get organic easy and cheap, the political system involves a lot of parties each at the other's throat and this allows voting to count, however there is some degree of servility towards Bruxelles and Washington which does invalidate the votes, at least it did in a few occasions, but it is unlikely to work for long anymore, people are clearly switching the vote away from people who did this.

  • tchentchen Member

    Is it re-election time already?

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    tchen said: Is it re-election time already?

    In EU, yes, on the 25th of May. So they still fear the people. Good.

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  • tchentchen Member

    I'm kinda torn on it since from their own (the commission) reports, only a minuscule number of ISPs were doing shady practices. I have the same adverse reactions to calls for random rules impose here for our own protection. If you want to dig at the bottom of the barrel, don't expect stellar five star performance/support and then whine when you don't get it.

    The amended text like all things touched by politicians had a few weirdnesses like section 12a which pretty much forbade all traffic monitoring, filtering, and routing only to be side-carted by some vague notion of allowing network protection. In the grand scheme of operations, nothing really changes - only the additional cost overhead of lawyering up - which the end-user is the one paying for one way or another. Yippie :)

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