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  • @cazrz said:

    @soulnice said:
    I bought plan 3 at Stockholm, and have payed the invoice, but it has been showing "Finalising" for about 3 hours. Is it normal? Please check the Invoice #230733. Thanks.
    @hosthatch

    Yes, its normal. They manually provision promo servers. Im still waiting for my 7 vps but 2 got already delivered.

    Thanks.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @notarobo said:
    but you do know that virmach cores are already throttled and yet steal is easily more than 20.0 right?

    I didn't know.
    I feel cheated.

    Nevertheless, these are not VirMach:

    • 25% Ryzen 3950, 1GB RAM, $8.40/year, Dallas
    • 33% EPYC 7302, 1GB RAM, $1.50/month, Amsterdam
    • 50% Ryzen 3950, 1GB RAM, $16/year, Seattle

    @lentro said:

    @yoursunny said: I want one server for serving all of Europe.

    In some cases, one location with very good connectivity should be prioritized over a myriad of different data centers, each with average connectivity. Fiber should be ~10 ms per 1000 miles, so a single location with amazing connectivity should theoretically be sufficient to serve a web app across all of Europe with sub-30 ms latency.

    I currently have a server in Amsterdam for serving all of Europe.
    It works well with 60% of viewers receiving 720p video resolution, but I'm afraid the provider would call me stupid and block my account at some point.

    This offer has similar prices and I can get 4x the RAM.
    However, the 12.5% CPU is a turn-off.
    Also, connectivity seems to be worse.

    Thanked by 1lentro
  • @lentro said:

    @delimiter said: I think it is 2 years with 2x ram and 2x bandwidth

    For the other ones it's correct, for this one it is wrong

    sorry, I just realized it should be 40.

  • @yoursunny said: Nevertheless, these are not VirMach:

    25% Ryzen 3950, 1GB RAM, $8.40/year, Dallas
    33% EPYC 7302, 1GB RAM, $1.50/month, Amsterdam
    50% Ryzen 3950, 1GB RAM, $16/year, Seattle

    But at least the first and last of these were some pretty crazy deals with very limited stock (e.g. 5 available), requiring you to video yourself doing obscene acts etc.

    Strictly your point might be correct, but I think if you compare to other offers with similar availability it isn't bad.

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • @Merlincool said:
    is there chance to get this offer again, HostHatch 10TB storage for $10/month, I don't have vps with hosthatch but I would like to try if it has this plan.

    They said they're not going to offer that deal again:

    @hosthatch said: These are also once in a life time deals as we have some unbalanced free storage on some nodes

    They don't allow transfers any more either, so even a customer that already has one can't transfer it to you :(

    Thanked by 1pbx
  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member
    edited March 2021

    @yoursunny said:

    @notarobo said:
    but you do know that virmach cores are already throttled and yet steal is easily more than 20.0 right?

    I didn't know.
    I feel cheated.

    Nevertheless, these are not VirMach:

    • 25% Ryzen 3950, 1GB RAM, $8.40/year, Dallas
    • 33% EPYC 7302, 1GB RAM, $1.50/month, Amsterdam
    • 50% Ryzen 3950, 1GB RAM, $16/year, Seattle

    @lentro said:

    @yoursunny said: I want one server for serving all of Europe.

    In some cases, one location with very good connectivity should be prioritized over a myriad of different data centers, each with average connectivity. Fiber should be ~10 ms per 1000 miles, so a single location with amazing connectivity should theoretically be sufficient to serve a web app across all of Europe with sub-30 ms latency.

    I currently have a server in Amsterdam for serving all of Europe.
    It works well with 60% of viewers receiving 720p video resolution, but I'm afraid the provider would call me stupid and block my account at some point.

    This offer has similar prices and I can get 4x the RAM.
    However, the 12.5% CPU is a turn-off.
    Also, connectivity seems to be worse.

    hosthatch is regurgitated dog shit with a perception it's good

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • pbxpbx Member

    @yoursunny said: I want one server for serving all of Europe.

    Their AMS location if they make it available again in a next sale?

  • pbxpbx Member

    @Daniel15 said: They don't allow transfers any more either, so even a customer that already has one can't transfer it to you

    That's a shame. I can understand why they do that (better to have customers idling their VPS than actually using it, and the ressources will become available next years to be sold again, potentially to a LET addict that will let this VPS idle again) but it's a better long term strategy IMO to have customers using and enjoying your services. Transfers are great for that: the service can move until it finds the user for which this VM with its limits will be the perfect server.

  • Daniel15Daniel15 Veteran
    edited March 2021

    @pbx said: I can understand why they do that (better to have customers idling their VPS than actually using it, and the ressources will become available next years to be sold again,

    Yeah my guess is that disallowing transfers is a tactic to phase out less profitable plans over time (to stop them from just being passed from person to person indefinitely)... Either that or it takes too much support time that could be used for other things.

    I'm not too surprised as many providers don't allow transfers - I think providers like VirMach that are very flexible with transfers are outliers.

    @SirFoxy said: hosthatch is regurgitated dog shit with a perception it's good

    Not a fan of hosthatch? I think they're pretty good for the price.

    Thanked by 1pbx
  • Anyone with Benchmark from nvme vps?

  • zappatazappata Member
    edited March 2021

    Provisioned 30min after order, NY 8GB
    Ubuntu, fresh install:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2020-12-29                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Tue Mar 30 09:01:01 BST 2021
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 v2 @ 3.00GHz
    CPU cores  : 2 @ 2999.998 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 7.8 GiB
    Swap       : 1024.0 MiB
    Disk       : 38.4 GiB
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 207.26 MB/s  (51.8k) | 2.35 GB/s    (36.8k)
    Write      | 207.80 MB/s  (51.9k) | 2.37 GB/s    (37.0k)
    Total      | 415.07 MB/s (103.7k) | 4.72 GB/s    (73.8k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 2.04 GB/s     (3.9k) | 1.93 GB/s     (1.8k)
    Write      | 2.14 GB/s     (4.1k) | 2.06 GB/s     (2.0k)
    Total      | 4.19 GB/s     (8.1k) | 4.00 GB/s     (3.9k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed     
                    |                           |                 |                
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.50 Gbits/sec  | 2.20 Gbits/sec 
    Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 2.93 Gbits/sec  | 1.36 Gbits/sec 
    WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | 2.34 Gbits/sec  | 1.84 Gbits/sec 
    Biznet          | Jakarta, Indonesia (1G)   | busy            | busy           
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 3.33 Gbits/sec  | 2.85 Gbits/sec 
    Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 3.11 Gbits/sec  | 1.43 Gbits/sec 
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 2.95 Gbits/sec  | 1.17 Gbits/sec 
    Iveloz Telecom  | Sao Paulo, BR (2G)        | 301 Mbits/sec   | 1.59 Gbits/sec 
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 592                           
    Multi Core      | 1142                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/7191370
    
    Thanked by 2pbx default
  • Madrid and Milan are still 1GBit/s and not 10GBit/s?

  • govac8govac8 Member
    edited March 2021

    @Merlincool here I am with $2.5 instance from Warsaw

    Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 v2 @ 3.00GHz
    CPU cores  : 1 @ 2999.998 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔️ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 1.8 GiB
    Swap       : 64.0 MiB
    Disk       : 14.7 GiB
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 202.65 MB/s  (50.6k) | 1.39 GB/s    (21.7k)
    Write      | 203.18 MB/s  (50.7k) | 1.39 GB/s    (21.8k)
    Total      | 405.83 MB/s (101.4k) | 2.79 GB/s    (43.6k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 2.21 GB/s     (4.3k) | 2.36 GB/s     (2.3k)
    Write      | 2.33 GB/s     (4.5k) | 2.52 GB/s     (2.4k)
    Total      | 4.54 GB/s     (8.8k) | 4.88 GB/s     (4.7k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                    |                           |                 |
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 681 Mbits/sec   | 606 Mbits/sec
    Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 691 Mbits/sec   | 606 Mbits/sec
    WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | 689 Mbits/sec   | 607 Mbits/sec
    Biznet          | Jakarta, Indonesia (1G)   | busy            | busy
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 640 Mbits/sec   | 577 Mbits/sec
    Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 634 Mbits/sec   | 507 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 633 Mbits/sec   | 214 Mbits/sec
    Iveloz Telecom  | Sao Paulo, BR (2G)        | busy            | busy
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 684
    Multi Core      | 687
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/7191603
    
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @tetech said:
    But at least the first and last of these were some pretty crazy deals with very limited stock (e.g. 5 available)

    • 25% Ryzen 3950, 1GB RAM, $8.40/year, Dallas, push-ups special otherwise 10 in stock for $12
    • 33% EPYC 7302, 1GB RAM, $1.50/month, Amsterdam, 7 in stock
    • 50% Ryzen 3950, 1GB RAM, $16/year, Seattle, 15 in stock

    requiring you to video yourself doing obscene acts etc.

    My push-ups are not obscene acts!

    Strictly your point might be correct, but I think if you compare to other offers with similar availability it isn't bad.

    If I already have a server in my .ssh/config, I compare to them, not "other offers" that I don't have.


    @SirFoxy said:

    hosthatch is regurgitated dog shit with a perception it's good

    Top result of "hosthatch review" agrees with you:
    https://hostadvice.com/hosting-company/hosthatch-reviews/

  • @yoursunny said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    hosthatch is regurgitated dog shit with a perception it's good

    Top result of "hosthatch review" agrees with you:
    https://hostadvice.com/hosting-company/hosthatch-reviews/

    Can agree. Their pricing is the only reason to go with them.

  • @Daniel15 said: Either that or it takes too much support time that could be used for other things.

    I believe they've actually said this is the case.

  • I would like Amesterdam for the 1st plan stack *2 ?

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  • @yoursunny said: Top result of "hosthatch review" agrees with you

    Top three reviews: person pissed off for getting kicked off, person pissed off for getting kicked off, person pissed off about not getting TUN/TAP to work and trying to get refund. Not sure this is truly representative ...

    @Daniel15 said: Not a fan of hosthatch? I think they're pretty good for the price.

    Hosthatch is like SirFoxy's bad ex- . They can't communicate and he just can't let it go.

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @jxpal said:
    Hello, is the price of storage 250g in lax set wrong?

    It was, fixed it, sorry.

    @mcgree said:
    I wanted to pay for two years, but I only paid for one year, what can I do?

    Because one year is $18 and two years is $32, I think it's a better deal.

    Please open a ticket and we'll get it done for you.

    @pbx said:

    @Daniel15 said: They don't allow transfers any more either, so even a customer that already has one can't transfer it to you

    That's a shame. I can understand why they do that (better to have customers idling their VPS than actually using it, and the resources will become available next years to be sold again, potentially to a LET addict that will let this VPS idle again) but it's a better long term strategy IMO to have customers using and enjoying your services. Transfers are great for that: the service can move until it finds the user for which this VM with its limits will be the perfect server.

    Honestly, it has nothing to do with that. Transfers are temporarily unavailable. There was a 'secondary market' for our promotional servers. The problem is that we were getting tens of requests per day after Black Friday, and it puts huge stress on the support queue - add to that the fact that the new user might try to hold us responsible if the seller misrepresented something to them.

    We will bring transfers back in a while. As you said, it is in our long term interest that people use their services and renew them and allowing transfers is a good way of ensuring that.

    Thanked by 3brueggus _MS_ pbx
  • I am on verge of buying another storage server. But have few queries:

    Is it a KVM VPS or OpenVZ based?

    What happens after the traffic bandwidth is exhausted? Are users allowed limited connectivity till next renewal?

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @webcraft said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    hosthatch is regurgitated dog shit with a perception it's good

    Top result of "hosthatch review" agrees with you:
    https://hostadvice.com/hosting-company/hosthatch-reviews/

    Can agree. Their pricing is the only reason to go with them.

    I'm sorry to hear that. I would love to hear how we can do better. What bad experience did you have and how could we have done better?

    I hope you realize why certain people choose these review websites over using LET/WHT or other forums where they might have to justify their reviews.

    You don't have to trust me on that - I think it is generally agreed upon that Vultr is an outstanding provider and you can look at https://hostadvice.com/hosting-company/vultr-reviews/ to get an idea of how these review sites end up misrepresenting facts.

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @xetsys said: Is it a KVM VPS or OpenVZ based?

    What happens after the traffic bandwidth is exhausted? Are users allowed limited connectivity till next renewal?

    We do not sell OpenVZ anymore to new customers.

    @xetsys said: What happens after the traffic bandwidth is exhausted? Are users allowed limited connectivity till next renewal?

    Your server will be suspended until the 1st of the next month. It can be resumed by buying additional traffic from our control panel.

    Thanked by 1xetsys
  • @hosthatch how is storage plan stack X2, is it everything double?

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @notarobo said:
    @hosthatch how is storage plan stack X2, is it everything double?

    Yes

    Thanked by 1notarobo
  • @hosthatch said:

    @notarobo said:
    @hosthatch how is storage plan stack X2, is it everything double?

    Yes

    what is the special price for plan X2 ?

  • Top result of "hosthatch review" agrees with you:
    https://hostadvice.com/hosting-company/hosthatch-reviews/

    Can agree. Their pricing is the only reason to go with them.

    Yeah... Because "15 user reviews" xD

    Thanked by 1bulbasaur
  • @hosthatch said:

    @webcraft said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    hosthatch is regurgitated dog shit with a perception it's good

    Top result of "hosthatch review" agrees with you:
    https://hostadvice.com/hosting-company/hosthatch-reviews/

    Can agree. Their pricing is the only reason to go with them.

    I'm sorry to hear that. I would love to hear how we can do better. What bad experience did you have and how could we have done better?

    I hope you realize why certain people choose these review websites over using LET/WHT or other forums where they might have to justify their reviews.

    You don't have to trust me on that - I think it is generally agreed upon that Vultr is an outstanding provider and you can look at https://hostadvice.com/hosting-company/vultr-reviews/ to get an idea of how these review sites end up misrepresenting facts.

    Well, I based this not only on the reviews of that website but here on LET quite a few people have been complaining about the responsiveness of your support, too. Sometimes your support is answering accurately to the issue raised but sometimes it feels like copy and paste of what's most likely to fit the request and then sometimes there's no reply for a couple weeks. It lacks a bit consistency and thus I wouldn't host productive stuff on these servers. Other minor issues are i.e. the ISO uploader which is sometimes broken, a problem for (over?) a year.
    If everything around is setup and working correctly, the performance of the server is really good, there's nothing to complain. These few issues I remember (like temporary IPv6 connectivity drops or compromised templates) is something I consider which can happen the same at any other provider too.

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    I do understand a number of users have shared their views on the problems we have.

    My question was more specific to your experience :)

    What problems have you personally faced with us and what we can do better? Would you mind PM'ing me your email so I can take a look at the tickets in question, and also make sure you don't see it again?

  • @hosthatch said:

    @notarobo said:
    @hosthatch how is storage plan stack X2, is it everything double?

    Yes

    @hosthatch
    Its mean for 2 year,
    512 MB RAM > 1GB
    250 GB usable storage > 500GB
    3 TB bandwidth >6TB

  • brueggusbrueggus Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @cyberindo said:

    @hosthatch said:

    @notarobo said:
    @hosthatch how is storage plan stack X2, is it everything double?

    Yes

    @hosthatch
    Its mean for 2 year,
    512 MB RAM > 1GB
    250 GB usable storage > 500GB
    3 TB bandwidth >6TB

    No, you can order two plans and stack them to double the resources.

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