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WHT Lifting Unlimited Ban

Awmusic12635Awmusic12635 Member, Host Rep

Seems the times are changing over @ WHT. They are lifting their ban on unlimited offers soon.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1302467

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  • Unlimited disk space? Sign me up

  • RadiRadi Host Rep, Veteran

    You gonna upload some 500 GB files?

  • WebProjectWebProject Host Rep, Veteran
    edited September 2013

    @Bogdacutuu said:
    Unlimited disk space? Sign me up

    I am after unlimited dedicated server or datacenter - pay for one Unlimited server and get unlimited everything. Any one can help? $7 p/m or under, please?

  • I'm gunna sign up for all these unlimited plans :)

  • Can't wait to see next summer's shared hosting offers!

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    500GB 4K Definition Porn files.

  • VPNshVPNsh Member, Host Rep

    Anybody else tempted to sign up for an unlimited plan and just absolutely annihilate the resources? I really do think this is a bad move on WHT's part.

  • nunimnunim Member
    edited September 2013

    @liamwithers said:
    Anybody else tempted to sign up for an unlimited plan and just absolutely annihilate the resources? I really do think this is a bad move on WHT's part.

    What makes you think these won't be subject to the same "fair use" and excessive TOS restrictions as before?

  • @nunim said:
    What makes you think these won't be subject to the same "fair use" and excessive TOS restrictions as before?

    Yea summer hosts will put in a server with a 500GB drive and then suspend you if you use 400GB because that isn't fair to other customers.....

  • @liamwithers said:
    Anybody else tempted to sign up for an unlimited plan and just absolutely annihilate the resources? I really do think this is a bad move on WHT's part.

    I will use every bit of disk they allow me to use.

  • These days everything is unlimited.

  • @concerto49 said:
    These days everything is unlimited.

    Data on my verizon cell phone isn't.

    I went with sprint 'the only real unlimited provider' and I got shut off for using too much data.

  • VPNshVPNsh Member, Host Rep

    @nunim said:
    What makes you think these won't be subject to the same "fair use" and excessive TOS restrictions as before?

    Well obviously it's likely they'll have a fair use, in which case the "unlimited" thing is kind of pointless in the first place. However if they do have a TOS, I'll be more than happy to take advantage of whatever usage there is. I'd also imagine that the TOS on many of these would be far more generous than what they can offer every single customer, in which case I'd still be more than happy to use whatever is available. At the end of the day, I personally believe that anybody supporting "unlimited" bandwidth or disk space in this industry could do with a bit of a heads-up on the fact that "unlimited" does not exist.

    @Corey said:
    I will use every bit of disk they allow me to use.

    Fair play. Think they'll keep this up, or do you think they'll change their mind? The response on WHT hasn't been overly positive :P

  • Who cares? Don't buy it. Done.

  • @liamwithers said:
    Fair play. Think they'll keep this up, or do you think they'll change their mind? The response on WHT hasn't been overly positive :P

    I'm not sure - they must have some agenda.

  • Maybe WHT is more threatened by other web presences these days so they feel the need to allow this for more traffic/revenue.

  • @Dorkfiles said:
    Maybe WHT is more threatened by other web presences these days so they feel the need to allow this for more traffic/revenue.

    Who threatens them? LOL... they are THE resource for hosting related topics.

  • most likely due to advertisement pressure (i.e the so called unlimited providers) unlimited disk space is possible in certain ways. Bitcasa does it well.

  • @Corey said:
    I went with sprint 'the only real unlimited provider' and I got shut off for using too much data.

    Cell Phone companies somehow manage to charge an INSANE amount of money for their service. I get ~450GB data monthly from my Cable ISP for like... $50 per month. I pay $50 per month (or more!) for a mere 2GB of 3G Data PER MONTH!!! That's $25 PER GIGABYTE!!! How do they get away with such monopolies!?!?!?!

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    @Magiobiwan said:
    Cell Phone companies somehow manage to charge an INSANE amount of money for their service. I get ~450GB data monthly from my Cable ISP for like... $50 per month. I pay $50 per month (or more!) for a mere 2GB of 3G Data PER MONTH!!! That's $25 PER GIGABYTE!!! How do they get away with such monopolies!?!?!?!

    I have an even more strange situation in romania. Some providers charge 5 Eur for 100 MB of traffic on phone and I have a 2 Eur subscription that offers 5 GB and then lower speed, not more charge or shutoff. How can the 100 MB still exist, that is a big mystery.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    It's about time. Otherwise they were fast becoming "last ones still clinging to their guns talk." The market has already spoken, unlimited sells, most people don't have any issue with it because they're using it for websites and not uploading dd generated block files just to say "lol see it's not unlimited!"

  • DomainBopDomainBop Member
    edited September 2013

    The market has already spoken, unlimited sells, most people don't have any issue with it because they're using it for websites

    The webhosting industry has been using the "unlimited" marketing gimmick for shared hosting plans since the 1990's. When you think about it, selling "unlimited" shared hosting plans isn't really much different (or any more dishonest) than certain OpenVZ providers who sell 200GB+ RAM on a 32GB E3 node. In both cases if all of the customers ever tried to use their full plan resources both the customer and the provider would be screwed. :)

    TL;DR in the mid 1990's there was a mass migration of used car salesmen from used car lots to the marketing departments of many web hosting companies.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited September 2013

    Honestly most of the assumptions about it are wrong anyway. The hosts have mostly adopted the style of if you can fill too much space legitimately, it's their burden, just don't fill it with personal backups. Most people go to a web host for a website, and generally you don't keep adding gigabytes of data without also growing in traffic eventually and outgrowing shared hosting anyway. It's not just a gimmick, it's marketing websites to people who don't want to be nerds, they just want a website. Making them feel like they won't hit walls that they don't even know how to see...there's value there.

  • it's marketing websites to people who don't want to be nerds, they just want a website.

    Another way of thinking of it is that it's marketing websites to people who don't have any technical knowledge and if you tell them an apple is an orange 99% of them will believe you and buy your product...and then when their site grows and they discover unlimited was really 10GB they'll find WHT and start a thread complaining that you shut them down for using 11GB on an unlimited plan. I'm sticking with my used car salesman analogy. :P

  • haseltinehaseltine Member
    edited September 2013

    @Magiobiwan said:
    Cell Phone companies somehow manage to charge an INSANE amount of money for their service. I get ~450GB data monthly from my Cable ISP for like... $50 per month. I pay $50 per month (or more!) for a mere 2GB of 3G Data PER MONTH!!! That's $25 PER GIGABYTE!!! How do they get away with such monopolies!?!?!?!

    @Maounique said:
    I have an even more strange situation in romania. Some providers charge 5 Eur for 100 MB of traffic on phone and I have a 2 Eur subscription that offers 5 GB and then lower speed, not more charge or shutoff. How can the 100 MB still exist, that is a big mystery.

    I guess they're all the same anywhere in the world. Here in Malaysia/Singapore they charge like 3GB at the rate of $17.64 USD.

  • shovenoseshovenose Member, Host Rep

    @haseltine said:
    I guess they're all the same anywhere in the world. Here in Malaysia/Singapore they charge like 3GB at the rate of $17.64 USD.

    That's a good price!

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @shovenose said:
    That's a good price!

    Seriously I pay $10/gb. It's straight up robbery. I get it though, it's easy to talk when you're not the network admin for a wireless service. Still pisses me off though.

  • Welcome EIG to WHT :))

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @thuvienvps said:
    Welcome EIG to WHT :))

    That'd be like Ford advertising at used car auctions...sure it could be done but that's not where the average shopper is found ;)

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