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I have 10k $ bucket, do you think if I will step into host industry

What resource(hw and soft) should I buy?
how to choose IDC and netwoks?
how to run away correctly?
how about this domain for my biz?
HostSparkle.com (not registered yet)

thank you!

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  • @jpeng said:

    HostSparkle.com (not registered yet)

    In case someone registers it before you do, please secure it first.

    Thanked by 1BlaZe
  • Nice thanks for suggest domain

    Thanked by 3raindog308 pike Doragon
  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member
    edited January 2021

    @jpeng said: how to run away correctly?

    Bye..
    (cue: "Run Forest, run" meme)

    Thanked by 1Tony40
  • You will find your bucket has a hole in it, dear Liza.

    Thanked by 3AlwaysSkint jpeng jh
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate
    edited January 2021

    @jpeng said:
    What resource(hw and soft) should I buy?

    SolusVM.

    how to choose IDC and netwoks?

    Psychz Networks, Los Angeles is my favorite.

    how to run away correctly?

    Sell to @SmartHost for $1.
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/160373/looking-to-acquire-vps-cpanel-shared-reseller-dedicated-server-companies

    how about this domain for my biz?
    HostSparkle.com (not registered yet)

    coloncrossing.com is better.

    Thanked by 1mrTom
  • brueggusbrueggus Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @jpeng said:
    how about this domain for my biz?
    HostSparkle.com (not registered yet)

    I'd suggest yoursunnyhost.com.

  • @jpeng said:
    how to run away correctly?

    thank you!

    1) Come with an incredible offer
    2) Come with an offer that is annual or lifetime for some money
    3) Take the money and deliver the server
    4) Keep the money and shut down the server.
    5) Be a dick on LET

    Thank me later.

  • WebProjectWebProject Host Rep, Veteran
    edited January 2021

    Better name like dollarvps.host with lifetime deals, oversell non existing hardware, hold all the funds and don’t deliver any accounts just keep promises and any issue with customers mentioned that all the services are non refundable like some hosts do :smiley:

    Thanked by 3yoursunny jpeng Erisa
  • For 10k you can't buy much. 1 or 2 servers max.

  • lentrolentro Member, Host Rep

    To start, I would recommend just reselling dedis so you get a feel of things before you start dumping money into hardware (that you don't know if people will need)

    Thanked by 1jpeng
  • If you don't want to waste your money, you need to speed the time it takes to create a detailed business plan.

    Most of all, you need a clear plan for how to sell and make a profit on your services.

    And don't expect that other web hosting business owners help you become competition for their business.

    Thanked by 1jpeng
  • @jpeng said: jpeng

    lol , i have like 500 servers for sale ... so you are welcome .

  • skorupionskorupion Member, Host Rep

    @LTniger said: For 10k you can't buy much. 1 or 2 servers max

    You are so wrong he can get 4 servers here (no need for newest gen servers, leave those to cloud)

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • Ian_Dot_TechIan_Dot_Tech Member, Patron Provider

    We still have snow here in Ohio, I didn't realize its already summer.

  • skorupionskorupion Member, Host Rep

    @Ian_Dot_Tech said: We still have snow here in Ohio, I didn't realize its already summer.

    Huh?

  • Ian_Dot_TechIan_Dot_Tech Member, Patron Provider

    @skorupion said:

    @Ian_Dot_Tech said: We still have snow here in Ohio, I didn't realize its already summer.

    Huh?

    Summer hosts :|

  • skorupionskorupion Member, Host Rep

    @Ian_Dot_Tech said: Summer hosts

    Ohhhhh xD

  • @Ian_Dot_Tech said:
    We still have snow here in Ohio, I didn't realize its already summer.

    Come to Southern California it’s 85F here today.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @jpeng said: HostSparkle.com (not registered yet)

    Ah, going after the under-served My Little Pony Fandom Site market.

    Thanked by 4pike Doragon jsg vovler
  • @jpeng said: jpeng

    now serious , do you have any ideea of this world ?

  • I have a 10k $ bucket. Do you think if I will step in to host industry?

    You don't really need that amount of money, but more experience and practice.
    Start with something small; try to offer free for usage 1 rented by your dedicated server.
    Focus on just one slice of your dedicated server at one time. Do not mix and mess your learning curve with the horizontal grown of products.

    For example:
    1. purchase https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/bare-metal/game/prices/
    2. purchase and install https://www.whmcs.com/pricing/
    3. and this one: https://docs.whmcs.com/Virtualizor
    4. and this one: https://virtualizor.com/pricing
    5. also, you need: https://docs.whmcs.com/Mailchimp
    6. and this one: https://mailchimp.com/pricing/
    7. Then you will need a website. Purchase whmcs and landing page bundle (extra 50-100usd)
    8. Start share info about your hosting on the game communities.
    9. Start to grow.
    10. On first real problem from the market - close your business, lose all of your money and time that you spent. And get out of the business.

    Listen, the hosting industry is not a simple thing, even if many solutions already mentioned above. Your customers will be very different, and with different requirements. If you don't have real-life experience in the hosting industry, you can't start to do anything successfully. A lot of people here spending their big part of their life on this work. They know tons of nuances and small deep details.

    Your initial payment for offering something that is required by the market right now:

    1600 USD just for server purchase for 1 year.
    +
    85 USD for WHMCS + 225 USD for the first year.
    +
    95 USD for virtualizor annually.
    +
    around 100 USD for mail solutions (for a transaction, marketing emails for your growing audience)
    +
    landing and website onetime payment around 100 USD.
    +
    hosting of your website around 100 USD / annually.

    Summary: 1600 + 85 + 95 + 100 + 100 + 100 = 2080 just for starting "summerhost business".

    2080 / ~10 = ~200-220 USD per month your server should generate for returning your investments this year.

    You have 64GB ram, + cool CPU.
    2GB plans + 1 Core + 15NVMe ~ 30 customers on the node.

    210 / 30 = minimum 7 USD per month for the VPS for 30 at the same time users of your services just for being in plus.

    Plus hidden fees and unexpected fees.

    Are you sure you want all of that?

    Sorry, this is very rough and not really correct. A lot of costs possible to minimize and optimize, but this is just an illustration that this is not a "super nice and profitable business," if you got somehow 10 USD free in your wallet, better for you to stick to a business where you're great. Let professionals in the LowEnd market do their job what they know how to do and balance between pricings, and performance.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @Ian_Dot_Tech said:
    We still have snow here in Ohio, I didn't realize its already summer.

    It's summer in Southern Hemisphere.

    @desperand said:
    Summary: 1600 + 85 + 95 + 100 + 100 + 100 = 2080 just for starting "summerhost business".

    I've been operating a summer host for much cheaper than this, because I coded all the components so that I cut out software licensing fees.
    https://yoursunny.com/p/summer-host/

    Thanked by 2desperand jpeng
  • CConnerCConner Member, Host Rep

    It's always summer somewhere...

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • DO NOT. Get some education first. McDonalds looks more promising.

    Thanked by 1mrTom
  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    Fast forward two weeks...

    • "We offer enterprise-grade hardware backed by years of experience in the hosting industry"
    • "We can meet your most mission-critical needs and demanding workloads"
    • "HostSparkle's support is excellent and their servers are blazing fast". - Mary J, San Francisco
  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    Buy Covid-19 Vaccine and distribute within your family and then to the poor.

    Thanked by 2desperand nyamenk
  • @cociu said:

    @jpeng said: jpeng

    now serious , do you have any ideea of this world ?

    do you mean to become reseller of hostsolutions?

  • @desperand said:

    I have a 10k $ bucket. Do you think if I will step in to host industry?

    You don't really need that amount of money, but more experience and practice.
    Start with something small; try to offer free for usage 1 rented by your dedicated server.
    Focus on just one slice of your dedicated server at one time. Do not mix and mess your learning curve with the horizontal grown of products.

    For example:
    1. purchase https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/bare-metal/game/prices/
    2. purchase and install https://www.whmcs.com/pricing/
    3. and this one: https://docs.whmcs.com/Virtualizor
    4. and this one: https://virtualizor.com/pricing
    5. also, you need: https://docs.whmcs.com/Mailchimp
    6. and this one: https://mailchimp.com/pricing/
    7. Then you will need a website. Purchase whmcs and landing page bundle (extra 50-100usd)
    8. Start share info about your hosting on the game communities.
    9. Start to grow.
    10. On first real problem from the market - close your business, lose all of your money and time that you spent. And get out of the business.

    Listen, the hosting industry is not a simple thing, even if many solutions already mentioned above. Your customers will be very different, and with different requirements. If you don't have real-life experience in the hosting industry, you can't start to do anything successfully. A lot of people here spending their big part of their life on this work. They know tons of nuances and small deep details.

    Your initial payment for offering something that is required by the market right now:

    1600 USD just for server purchase for 1 year.
    +
    85 USD for WHMCS + 225 USD for the first year.
    +
    95 USD for virtualizor annually.
    +
    around 100 USD for mail solutions (for a transaction, marketing emails for your growing audience)
    +
    landing and website onetime payment around 100 USD.
    +
    hosting of your website around 100 USD / annually.

    Summary: 1600 + 85 + 95 + 100 + 100 + 100 = 2080 just for starting "summerhost business".

    2080 / ~10 = ~200-220 USD per month your server should generate for returning your investments this year.

    You have 64GB ram, + cool CPU.
    2GB plans + 1 Core + 15NVMe ~ 30 customers on the node.

    210 / 30 = minimum 7 USD per month for the VPS for 30 at the same time users of your services just for being in plus.

    Plus hidden fees and unexpected fees.

    Are you sure you want all of that?

    Sorry, this is very rough and not really correct. A lot of costs possible to minimize and optimize, but this is just an illustration that this is not a "super nice and profitable business," if you got somehow 10 USD free in your wallet, better for you to stick to a business where you're great. Let professionals in the LowEnd market do their job what they know how to do and balance between pricings, and performance.

    Thanks @desperand You have given so much detailed description. I have copied your words into SimpleNote and will follow it to take next action. thanks.

  • A fool and his money soon part.

  • Hmm, who just took the domain name HostSparkle.com? so my biz dies...

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