Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!


PSA: Hostdoc back as "port443.uk" Possible scam alert! - Page 2
New on LowEndTalk? Please Register and read our Community Rules.

All new Registrations are manually reviewed and approved, so a short delay after registration may occur before your account becomes active.

PSA: Hostdoc back as "port443.uk" Possible scam alert!

24567

Comments

  • @P443John said: If you have received unwanted emails from me, please unsubscribe, you will not receive further marketing emails from my organisation.

    I've decided to only read last line and it was fucking lmao already.
    I guess I should read rest too - must be funny stuff.

  • @FAT32 said:

    Go on :)

    can you share pop corn with us? :wink:

  • @P443John said:
    Hi. Happy new year. I am John. The founder of a new hosting organisation known as Port443 Cloud Hosting. A member of this forum known as raindog has informed me about this thread. There is confusion about Port443 which has led to speculation I hope I can clear up.
    I was informed of the existence of Hostdoc from my live chat. Somebody that named them self FAT for the conversation.
    He insisted I was somebody I had not heard of and part of a group I had not heard of.
    It seems the confusion is because of the name he was referring to.

    Some Background

    I work as part of a small team of devOps.
    One of these members is someone we refer to as Junior. A fabulous team member who late 2019 began offering team members managed cloud services.
    The majority of us utilize AWS services for our personal test environment making his offer not bad because it is highly available and replicated onto 2 extra servers.
    He built the infrastructure through OVH and introduced many of our team members to OVH services.
    Around July, my girl and I broke up and I found this tough coupled with Corona and all the shit that came with it.

    Our team still has daily meetings on zoom and Junior continues managing many of our test environments. This intrigued me so I asked him about the in and outs of what he did because I had found myself with a lot of free time, some what depressed with not much to do.
    He offered to help me start how he had started with a little hosting organisation to polish out a few skills.
    He helped with the purchase of my servers and domain and offered some tips and advise on how to run and operate.

    Going back to my conversation with FAT. I had never paid attention to the company name Junior referred to during conversations so it don’t ring bells when it was mentioned.
    I was very confused. This conversation had names I don't recognise. They implied I was this person or represented a different organisation.
    The next day, I called Junior and let him know about this bizarre conversation. I say bro, I am getting strange live chat requests from people calling them self FAT.
    He recognised the name and gave me a little background into his hosting company and the reasons he shut down which I won’t go into detail about.

    I have seen the word “scam” thrown around. From his explanation, I don't see how a scam has taken place. If one has, I don’t see how I am involved in it because I have services I use from him.
    If you feel you have issues with Junior, I have contact with him and can pass a message onto him (can’t guarantee a response but I will try), but he has let me know that many other users also have direct contact details for him and can/could contact him if they want.

    Where I am now and some answers

    This is my organisation so I will now talk about me and my hosting organisation.
    I am John Osengi. A 26 year old devOp from London.
    I have set up a hosting company with some help and have followed advise offered.
    This is a hobby for now because I have extra time and to keep my mind from going crazy.
    Before launch, Junior offered if I grew the organisation but lost motivation to run it, he may be interested in taking it off my hands. It could be a bigger monster than I think he advised. I had no idea what he was on about but now I think I see.
    He set up my organisation with OVH, helped me grow my mailing list and set up promotional campaigns.
    Junior attached my organisation to the IP blocks allocated to my servers but something went wrong and some still point back to him.

    I cannot directly offer a solution to anyone for grievances you have, but, I can be a sympathetic ear and pass requests to him to see if he can provide a solution.

    As part of advise offered from Junior, forums are a great place to grow my organisation but they are also a breeding ground for toxic behaviour and foul competition.
    I don’t want to step on toes or have reasons to call out people I don’t know or have any interest in.
    I ain't a active member here. I don't intend to be. I will answer questions if anybody has some and happy to offer trial runs of my service if requested.
    The service itself is not that exciting and quite basic. I offer dedicated resource plans which I understand this community does not consume for more than certain price. I can’t offer some of the deals many here can. I can’t compete with them on this platform. Any offers I have will be offers from marketing mail, my organisations social media and other accepted forms of promotion I think is good to promote the organisation and service I offer.
    I sell dedicated resources and prompt customer service. I charge appropriately for what I sell. I deliver what I sell promptly and efficiently. It ain’t low end and I get that.

    Port443 Cloud Hosting is in no way related to Hostdoc the same way a OVH reseller provider on this site ain’t in any way related to OVH other than being a customer that use the service.

    If you have received unwanted emails from me, please unsubscribe, you will not receive further marketing emails from my organisation.

    that what every scam scum say

  • Tawk legend

  • @P443John said:
    Hi. Happy new year. I am John. The founder of a new hosting organisation known as Port443 Cloud Hosting. A member of this forum known as raindog has informed me about this thread. There is confusion about Port443 which has led to speculation I hope I can clear up.
    I was informed of the existence of Hostdoc from my live chat. Somebody that named them self FAT for the conversation.
    He insisted I was somebody I had not heard of and part of a group I had not heard of.
    It seems the confusion is because of the name he was referring to.

    Some Background

    I work as part of a small team of devOps.
    One of these members is someone we refer to as Junior. A fabulous team member who late 2019 began offering team members managed cloud services.
    The majority of us utilize AWS services for our personal test environment making his offer not bad because it is highly available and replicated onto 2 extra servers.
    He built the infrastructure through OVH and introduced many of our team members to OVH services.
    Around July, my girl and I broke up and I found this tough coupled with Corona and all the shit that came with it.

    Our team still has daily meetings on zoom and Junior continues managing many of our test environments. This intrigued me so I asked him about the in and outs of what he did because I had found myself with a lot of free time, some what depressed with not much to do.
    He offered to help me start how he had started with a little hosting organisation to polish out a few skills.
    He helped with the purchase of my servers and domain and offered some tips and advise on how to run and operate.

    Going back to my conversation with FAT. I had never paid attention to the company name Junior referred to during conversations so it don’t ring bells when it was mentioned.
    I was very confused. This conversation had names I don't recognise. They implied I was this person or represented a different organisation.
    The next day, I called Junior and let him know about this bizarre conversation. I say bro, I am getting strange live chat requests from people calling them self FAT.
    He recognised the name and gave me a little background into his hosting company and the reasons he shut down which I won’t go into detail about.

    I have seen the word “scam” thrown around. From his explanation, I don't see how a scam has taken place. If one has, I don’t see how I am involved in it because I have services I use from him.
    If you feel you have issues with Junior, I have contact with him and can pass a message onto him (can’t guarantee a response but I will try), but he has let me know that many other users also have direct contact details for him and can/could contact him if they want.

    Where I am now and some answers

    This is my organisation so I will now talk about me and my hosting organisation.
    I am John Osengi. A 26 year old devOp from London.
    I have set up a hosting company with some help and have followed advise offered.
    This is a hobby for now because I have extra time and to keep my mind from going crazy.
    Before launch, Junior offered if I grew the organisation but lost motivation to run it, he may be interested in taking it off my hands. It could be a bigger monster than I think he advised. I had no idea what he was on about but now I think I see.
    He set up my organisation with OVH, helped me grow my mailing list and set up promotional campaigns.
    Junior attached my organisation to the IP blocks allocated to my servers but something went wrong and some still point back to him.

    I cannot directly offer a solution to anyone for grievances you have, but, I can be a sympathetic ear and pass requests to him to see if he can provide a solution.

    As part of advise offered from Junior, forums are a great place to grow my organisation but they are also a breeding ground for toxic behaviour and foul competition.
    I don’t want to step on toes or have reasons to call out people I don’t know or have any interest in.
    I ain't a active member here. I don't intend to be. I will answer questions if anybody has some and happy to offer trial runs of my service if requested.
    The service itself is not that exciting and quite basic. I offer dedicated resource plans which I understand this community does not consume for more than certain price. I can’t offer some of the deals many here can. I can’t compete with them on this platform. Any offers I have will be offers from marketing mail, my organisations social media and other accepted forms of promotion I think is good to promote the organisation and service I offer.
    I sell dedicated resources and prompt customer service. I charge appropriately for what I sell. I deliver what I sell promptly and efficiently. It ain’t low end and I get that.

    Port443 Cloud Hosting is in no way related to Hostdoc the same way a OVH reseller provider on this site ain’t in any way related to OVH other than being a customer that use the service.

    If you have received unwanted emails from me, please unsubscribe, you will not receive further marketing emails from my organisation.

    Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    If you're really into software engineering/development then you should know that it's always DevOps and never devOps or devOp.

    If this is all Junior, he should be here instead.

    Your torch isn't bright enough to shed sufficient light on this topic.

    Unless, you're Junior.

  • TL;DR: I have no idea what I am doing, "Junior" is doing everything, but this is my 'organisation'. Also: this is hard (What is hard if "Junior" does everything? btw. Domain registered like a month ago) and he will probably take over.

    Amazing sad story, especially that girl you broke up with - please mention her on your website, she seems to be very important part of port443.uk 'legacy'!

    Thanked by 2kkrajk Void
  • brueggusbrueggus Member, IPv6 Advocate

    Thanked by 1FAT32
  • People love hearing they're buying services from a guy who has no experience and just trying it out for a hobby.

  • @SirFoxy said:

    Lmao this screams shady especially the fact you're legit using emails from his list, his tawk module, and his ip block. Seriously?

    This. Speculation.
    Bro, I am an authorised user on his OVH account.
    I do not use his tawk.to module. No.
    The email list was not known to me. I will take blame for that because it is my organisation.

    @Moofie said:

    Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

    Yes.
    It was added during our marketing campaign. I will take blame for this as I should have been aware.

    @thedp said:

    If you're really into software engineering/development then you should know that it's always DevOps and never devOps or devOp.

    If this is all Junior, he should be here instead.

    Your torch isn't bright enough to shed sufficient light on this topic.

    Unless, you're Junior.

    100% with you there but i have asked him to be here too. I have only just seen the email about the thread today and took immediate action.

    @JabJab said:
    TL;DR: I have no idea what I am doing, "Junior" is doing everything, but this is my 'organisation'. Also: this is hard (What is hard if "Junior" does everything? btw. Domain registered like a month ago) and he will probably take over.

    Amazing sad story, especially that girl you broke up with - please mention her on your website, she seems to be very important part of port443.uk 'legacy'!

    I get it, it’s a new year and you are excited about some excitement.
    Bro, I am just doing the right thing. Don’t crucify me. I want to help, really.
    But treating me like shit for something I am still learning about does not help anything.

  • @P443John said:

    @Moofie said:

    Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

    Yes.
    It was added during our marketing campaign. I will take blame for this as I should have been aware.

    Added from where? You did not explain this, unless you are the "junior".

    Thanked by 2Daniel15 bdl
  • @P443John said:
    But treating me like shit for something I am still learning about does not help anything.

    bro

    bro

    bro

    not treat like shit

    is treat as shit

    bro

    u

    r

    shit

  • @chocolateshirt said:

    @P443John said:

    @Moofie said:

    Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

    Yes.
    It was added during our marketing campaign. I will take blame for this as I should have been aware.

    Added from where? You did not explain this, unless you are the "junior".

    No. Junior added it during the campaign. I did not know this and thought they were generic until he let me know the other day that he added half of his own list to the campaign.
    It made up 1/4 of the list.

    @notarobo said:

    @P443John said:
    But treating me like shit for something I am still learning about does not help anything.

    bro

    bro

    bro

    not treat like shit

    is treat as shit

    bro

    u

    r

    shit

    BROOO??

  • @P443John said:

    @chocolateshirt said:

    @P443John said:

    @Moofie said:

    Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

    Yes.
    It was added during our marketing campaign. I will take blame for this as I should have been aware.

    Added from where? You did not explain this, unless you are the "junior".

    No. Junior added it during the campaign. I did not know this and thought they were generic until he let me know the other day that he added half of his own list to the campaign.
    It made up 1/4 of the list.

    @notarobo said:

    @P443John said:
    But treating me like shit for something I am still learning about does not help anything.

    bro

    bro

    bro

    not treat like shit

    is treat as shit

    bro

    u

    r

    shit

    BROOO??

    B-S meter running high here. Just admit your hostdoc. Its already clear who you are.

    Thanked by 1NobodyInteresting
  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    @P443John Let's discuss a few points in a slightly more logical way.

    1. You mentioned Junior helped you to set up a hosting company, that means your company should be registered? Under what name is it?
    2. @raindog308 Can you confirm that you informed them about this thread?
    3. If you are a DevOps doing managed services, how could you not know under which name your IPs / services / domains are registered in, and "accidentally" still point back to HostDoc?
    4. How could you not know the name HostDoc when your services are registered under HostDoc?
    5. Your name sounds suspicious, I found 0 results in Google regarding John Osengi, any public profile of yours that you can share with us?
  • @FAT32 said:
    @P443John Let's discuss a few points in a slightly more logical way.

    1. You mentioned Junior helped you to set up a hosting company, that means your company should be registered? Under what name is it?
    2. @raindog308 Can you confirm that you informed them about this thread?
    3. If you are a DevOps doing managed services, how could you not know under which name your IPs / services / domains are registered in, and "accidentally" still point back to HostDoc?
    4. How could you not know the name HostDoc when your services are registered under HostDoc?
    5. Your name sounds suspicious, I found 0 results in Google regarding John Osengi, any public profile of yours that you can share with us?

    Here it comes, time to dig a deeper hole

  • @P443John said:

    @chocolateshirt said:

    @P443John said:

    @Moofie said:

    Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

    Yes.
    It was added during our marketing campaign. I will take blame for this as I should have been aware.

    Added from where? You did not explain this, unless you are the "junior".

    No. Junior added it during the campaign. I did not know this and thought they were generic until he let me know the other day that he added half of his own list to the campaign.
    It made up 1/4 of the list.

    @notarobo said:

    @P443John said:
    But treating me like shit for something I am still learning about does not help anything.

    bro

    bro

    bro

    not treat like shit

    is treat as shit

    bro

    u

    r

    shit

    BROOO??

    You can't just add people to your list it has to be opt in, first of all, even in the US.

  • isunbejoisunbejo Member
    edited January 2021
  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Once a scammer, forever scammer.

    I've yet to see an exception in decades.

    Thanked by 1chocolateshirt
  • OMG! I need more Popcorn.

  • @FAT32 said:
    @P443John Let's discuss a few points in a slightly more logical way.

    1. You mentioned Junior helped you to set up a hosting company, that means your company should be registered? Under what name is it?
    2. @raindog308 Can you confirm that you informed them about this thread?
    3. If you are a DevOps doing managed services, how could you not know under which name your IPs / services / domains are registered in, and "accidentally" still point back to HostDoc?
    4. How could you not know the name HostDoc when your services are registered under HostDoc?
    5. Your name sounds suspicious, I found 0 results in Google regarding John Osengi, any public profile of yours that you can share with us?

    Hi. Are you the guy that came to chat? Let me answer your questions.

    1. He helped me set the organisation or company if you prefer. It is a sole trader for now because I have just started.
    2. -
    3. I ain't set any of that up and had no reason to check. He told me the organisation was added and I moved on. Oversight? Yes.
    4. My services are registered under Port443 Cloud Hosting. The only service that comes up under his name are the Asia IPs.
      I didn't know this because I did the IP Whois on the IP today after reading this thread.
      I work with him. I have had no reason to doubt or be suspicious of anything he told me.
    5. Because I do not participate in social media makes me suspicious?
      Im here trying to get a better understanding of what has happened. Help if I can.
      You can have your pitchforks out but you are aiming the wrong way.

    @SirFoxy said:

    @P443John said:

    @chocolateshirt said:

    @P443John said:

    @Moofie said:

    Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

    Yes.
    It was added during our marketing campaign. I will take blame for this as I should have been aware.

    Added from where? You did not explain this, unless you are the "junior".

    No. Junior added it during the campaign. I did not know this and thought they were generic until he let me know the other day that he added half of his own list to the campaign.
    It made up 1/4 of the list.

    @notarobo said:

    @P443John said:
    But treating me like shit for something I am still learning about does not help anything.

    bro

    bro

    bro

    not treat like shit

    is treat as shit

    bro

    u

    r

    shit

    BROOO??

    You can't just add people to your list it has to be opt in, first of all, even in the US.

    Bro. I thought that too. Turned out about 4700 were opted in. It is my fault and I will take the blame.

  • @P443John said:

    @FAT32 said:
    @P443John Let's discuss a few points in a slightly more logical way.

    1. You mentioned Junior helped you to set up a hosting company, that means your company should be registered? Under what name is it?
    2. @raindog308 Can you confirm that you informed them about this thread?
    3. If you are a DevOps doing managed services, how could you not know under which name your IPs / services / domains are registered in, and "accidentally" still point back to HostDoc?
    4. How could you not know the name HostDoc when your services are registered under HostDoc?
    5. Your name sounds suspicious, I found 0 results in Google regarding John Osengi, any public profile of yours that you can share with us?

    Hi. Are you the guy that came to chat? Let me answer your questions.

    1. He helped me set the organisation or company if you prefer. It is a sole trader for now because I have just started.
    2. -
    3. I ain't set any of that up and had no reason to check. He told me the organisation was added and I moved on. Oversight? Yes.
    4. My services are registered under Port443 Cloud Hosting. The only service that comes up under his name are the Asia IPs.
      I didn't know this because I did the IP Whois on the IP today after reading this thread.
      I work with him. I have had no reason to doubt or be suspicious of anything he told me.
    5. Because I do not participate in social media makes me suspicious?
      Im here trying to get a better understanding of what has happened. Help if I can.
      You can have your pitchforks out but you are aiming the wrong way.

    @SirFoxy said:

    @P443John said:

    @chocolateshirt said:

    @P443John said:

    @Moofie said:

    Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

    Yes.
    It was added during our marketing campaign. I will take blame for this as I should have been aware.

    Added from where? You did not explain this, unless you are the "junior".

    No. Junior added it during the campaign. I did not know this and thought they were generic until he let me know the other day that he added half of his own list to the campaign.
    It made up 1/4 of the list.

    @notarobo said:

    @P443John said:
    But treating me like shit for something I am still learning about does not help anything.

    bro

    bro

    bro

    not treat like shit

    is treat as shit

    bro

    u

    r

    shit

    BROOO??

    You can't just add people to your list it has to be opt in, first of all, even in the US.

    Bro. I thought that too. Turned out about 4700 were opted in. It is my fault and I will take the blame.

    There is literally no way 4700 people opted in to receive marketing emails specifically from your newly created hosting company.

  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    @P443John said:
    Hi. Are you the guy that came to chat? Let me answer your questions.

    1. He helped me set the organisation or company if you prefer. It is a sole trader for now because I have just started.
    2. -
    3. I ain't set any of that up and had no reason to check. He told me the organisation was added and I moved on. Oversight? Yes.
    4. My services are registered under Port443 Cloud Hosting. The only service that comes up under his name are the Asia IPs.
      I didn't know this because I did the IP Whois on the IP today after reading this thread.
      I work with him. I have had no reason to doubt or be suspicious of anything he told me.
    5. Because I do not participate in social media makes me suspicious?
      Im here trying to get a better understanding of what has happened. Help if I can.
      You can have your pitchforks out but you are aiming the wrong way.

    You are the one who name it a hosting "company", and here I quote:

    @P443John said:
    I have set up a hosting company with some help and have followed advise offered.

    One thing I can get from your explanation is that seems like you trust Junior a lot. If you are really not him, my advice is you might want to beware of him. He was a nice guy before his company deadpool, at least I thought so.

    I will still give you the benefit of doubt, let's see what LowEndDetective can find out. By the way, yes I am the one that communicated with you over the live chat, and I come in peace and didn't mention scam or anything, but you missed the chance to be honest.

  • edited January 2021

    There is literally no way 4700 people opted in to receive marketing emails specifically from your newly created hosting company.

    Because hostdoc is using their old client database. Or port443 or 44 magnum or 44 who ever is.

    Thanked by 1Frameworks
  • Looks like the doc found a way in - through another person

  • @P443John said:
    5. Because I do not participate in social media makes me suspicious?
    Im here trying to get a better understanding of what has happened. Help if I can.
    You can have your pitchforks out but you are aiming the wrong way.

    how about https://www.linkedin.com/ profile ?

  • notarobonotarobo Member
    edited January 2021

    @P443John said:

    @FAT32 said:
    @P443John Let's discuss a few points in a slightly more logical way.

    1. You mentioned Junior helped you to set up a hosting company, that means your company should be registered? Under what name is it?
    2. @raindog308 Can you confirm that you informed them about this thread?
    3. If you are a DevOps doing managed services, how could you not know under which name your IPs / services / domains are registered in, and "accidentally" still point back to HostDoc?
    4. How could you not know the name HostDoc when your services are registered under HostDoc?
    5. Your name sounds suspicious, I found 0 results in Google regarding John Osengi, any public profile of yours that you can share with us?

    Hi. Are you the guy that came to chat? Let me answer your questions.

    1. He helped me set the organisation or company if you prefer. It is a sole trader for now because I have just started.
    2. -
    3. I ain't set any of that up and had no reason to check. He told me the organisation was added and I moved on. Oversight? Yes.
    4. My services are registered under Port443 Cloud Hosting. The only service that comes up under his name are the Asia IPs.
      I didn't know this because I did the IP Whois on the IP today after reading this thread.
      I work with him. I have had no reason to doubt or be suspicious of anything he told me.
    5. Because I do not participate in social media makes me suspicious?
      Im here trying to get a better understanding of what has happened. Help if I can.
      You can have your pitchforks out but you are aiming the wrong way.

    @SirFoxy said:

    @P443John said:

    @chocolateshirt said:

    @P443John said:

    @Moofie said:

    Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

    Yes.
    It was added during our marketing campaign. I will take blame for this as I should have been aware.

    Added from where? You did not explain this, unless you are the "junior".

    No. Junior added it during the campaign. I did not know this and thought they were generic until he let me know the other day that he added half of his own list to the campaign.
    It made up 1/4 of the list.

    @notarobo said:

    @P443John said:
    But treating me like shit for something I am still learning about does not help anything.

    bro

    bro

    bro

    not treat like shit

    is treat as shit

    bro

    u

    r

    shit

    BROOO??

    You can't just add people to your list it has to be opt in, first of all, even in the US.

    Bro. I thought that too. Turned out about 4700 were opted in. It is my fault and I will take the blame.

  • @SirFoxy said:

    There is literally no way 4700 people opted in to receive marketing emails specifically from your newly created hosting company.

    Yes. And growing. Not a single one has unsubscribed either.
    All unsubscribed have obviously been from the added list. I am angry at this too.
    Do you think I want a communities first impression of my organisation to be like this? Bro, I am fuming, and I have made this known.
    But this is where I am so I have to address it. Can’t let it spiral out of control with speculation.

    @FAT32 said:
    I will still give you the benefit of doubt, let's see what LowEndDetective can find out. By the way, yes I am the one that communicated with you over the live chat, and I come in peace and didn't mention scam or anything, but you missed the chance to be honest.

    Bro. It is all love.
    My reason for being here is to reduce anxiety if there is any.
    I want to help. But ain’t no one even leading me down the right path.
    I am being spat at and judged with no foundation.
    I come in piece and will attempt to help people if I can. Everybody has a pitchfork for no reason and want to use it at the first chance available with no grounds for doing that.
    Bro, I been honest from day one. You choose to doubt it. Someone say every scammer does this? I am still wondering what this scam is.

  • @P443John said:

    . Someone say every scammer does this? I am still wondering what this scam is.

    Search hostdoc. You may find your answer.

Sign In or Register to comment.