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PayPal dispute fee of 15 USD / 14 EUR from December 16

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  • WebProjectWebProject Host Rep, Veteran

    @mezoology said:

    @WebProject said:

    @kalimov622 said:
    I really hope a serious payment processor (for both businesses and regular people) takes over and people start dumping PayPal for good. They have been the most popular payment processor for years and they're taking advantage of that lately. Bastards!

    You do have such payment gateway called Stripe but not all customers wish to pay via their payment card.

    also, not all countries supported by Stripe.

    For merchants yes it’s still limited countries but as for buyers no limits on countries, simply need to have Visa, MasterCard or Amex or other option of payments.

  • @mezoology said:

    @WebProject said:

    @kalimov622 said:
    I really hope a serious payment processor (for both businesses and regular people) takes over and people start dumping PayPal for good. They have been the most popular payment processor for years and they're taking advantage of that lately. Bastards!

    You do have such payment gateway called Stripe but not all customers wish to pay via their payment card.

    also, not all countries supported by Stripe.

    Correct and I think you need a business to register with Stripe.
    Eitherway @WebProject, I was referring to something similar with PayPal but well not PayPal. Unfortunately, Skrill which is the first that come into my mind doesn't come anywhere close in terms of popularity.

  • WebProjectWebProject Host Rep, Veteran

    Skrill used to be great 10 years ago, unfortunately not anymore due to luck of customer service, £15 per month charge (probably more now) to get access to merchant account without any flexibility or options of payments it’s just pointless.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    Maybe this new case of Paypal actually behaving like Payjerk will trigger the creation of a more reasonable competitor. I'd also not be surprised if the EU slams them with a hefty fine sooner or later.

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  • @serv_ee said:

    @M66B said:

    @serv_ee said:

    @M66B said: And a fee for inactive accounts as well ...

    What?

    Indeed, "what?", even 12 euros yearly and as I understood it from another forum, it will even be applied at the end of this year for this year ...

    Logging in seems to be enough to "reset" this though.

    What bullshit is that? I got two accounts on PP that I cant even login to anymore since the domain doesnt exist anymore but my CC are tied to em. Oh well..happy times for my CC issuer when Ill just charge back Paypal with the explanation of "Inactive account fee"

    Register the domains yourself.
    Cancel your credit card.

  • @WebProject said:

    @SirFoxy said:
    The hosting market is high risk, so Paypal and Stripe don't really want you on there anyways.

    if you do run business you need to expect the high rick customers everywhere

    High Rick is the worst customer to have.

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  • serv_eeserv_ee Member
    edited October 2020

    @TimboJones said:

    @serv_ee said:

    @M66B said:

    @serv_ee said:

    @M66B said: And a fee for inactive accounts as well ...

    What?

    Indeed, "what?", even 12 euros yearly and as I understood it from another forum, it will even be applied at the end of this year for this year ...

    Logging in seems to be enough to "reset" this though.

    What bullshit is that? I got two accounts on PP that I cant even login to anymore since the domain doesnt exist anymore but my CC are tied to em. Oh well..happy times for my CC issuer when Ill just charge back Paypal with the explanation of "Inactive account fee"

    Register the domains yourself.
    Cancel your credit card.

    You mean the domain I let expire and now they want $2000 for it? Yeah, no.

    Edit:

    My bad

    Finance This Domain: $3495 12 monthly payments of $292

  • SwiftnodeSwiftnode Member, Host Rep
    edited October 2020

    PayPal is still a large portion of our business. I dislike them for numerous reasons not relevant to this thread, but I would like to address one thing about this upcoming dispute policy change.

    Ecommercebytes said a PayPal representative explained the policy as such;

    Update 10/3/2020: PayPal's spokesperson provided the following additional clarification;

    "The Dispute Fee will replace PayPal's existing Chargeback Fee for branded transactions for disputes that are not resolved by merchants, and in proportion to a merchant's dispute rate. This will help merchants mitigate losses and also encourage merchants with high dispute rates to improve buyer experience. These merchants will be charged a higher fee compared to merchants with a standard dispute rate. So merchants with a higher dispute rate will see an increase whereas those with a standard (or lower) rate would actually see a decrease in costs."

    So if I'm understanding correctly, this isn't that significant of a change, and it doesn't seem like you're going to be charged a fee simply for a PayPal dispute, remember that financial institution chargebacks are technically a "dispute," but are not the same as disputing a balance transfer to another PayPal account/user.

    If anyone has more information or contradictory information to the above, feel free to correct me. PayPal probably needs to do a better job of communicating what the actual change is they're making.

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  • bdw , anyone know some module for whmcs wich can do this :

    if a customer pay with paypal increase the price with X% ?

  • M66BM66B Veteran

    @cociu said:
    bdw , anyone know some module for whmcs wich can do this :

    if a customer pay with paypal increase the price with X% ?

    Maybe you don't care, but this is not allowed in the EU.

  • @cociu said:
    bdw , anyone know some module for whmcs wich can do this :

    if a customer pay with paypal increase the price with X% ?

    Not allowed by PayPal ToS, AFAIK.

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  • @AC_Fan said: Not allowed by PayPal ToS, AFAIK.

    fuck them , so i need to suck all the mess , hight fees , dispute fees , etc etc... unbeleve where we go in 2020

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  • M66BM66B Veteran

    @cociu said:

    @AC_Fan said: Not allowed by PayPal ToS, AFAIK.

    fuck them , so i need to suck all the mess , hight fees , dispute fees , etc etc... unbeleve where we go in 2020

    The other option is to reduce the dispute ratio ...

  • @M66B said: Maybe you don't care, but this is not allowed in the EU.

    i dont know if this is real but if i sell a product and i have more cost comparatively with other solution/payment processor i dont see any problem to give this cost to the client , good motivation to ask my acountant.

  • M66BM66B Veteran

    @cociu said:

    @M66B said: Maybe you don't care, but this is not allowed in the EU.

    i dont know if this is real but if i sell a product and i have more cost comparatively with other solution/payment processor i dont see any problem to give this cost to the client , good motivation to ask my acountant.

    You are the entrepreneur, so this has nothing to do with your customers.

    If you have a high number of disputes, this is mainly your problem, not the customers problem. Note that there is a difference between disputes and claims. The latter you can always fight.

  • cociucociu Member
    edited October 2020

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    @M66B said: You are the entrepreneur, so this has nothing to do with your customers.

    If you have a high number of disputes, this is mainly your problem, not the customers problem. Note that there is a difference between disputes and claims. The latter you can always fight.

    tell this to some chines people unfortunately this people is opened to make disputes first without open any tickets , etc etc. I cannot complain for disputes because is a verry small procentaje but man ... is happened so way i am obligate to suck all mess ? first of all the customer who open the dispute is client of paypal and after this my client . So wtf i am obligate to cover all this risck ?

    EDIT : more if we are all in EU way i am pay almost doble fees for a transaction comparatively with any country from EU ? so i dont see the low of not charge the client more very good one if we are charged too . I repeat , i dont know if such low exist (i will ask my acountant ) but if is exist is easy to attack

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  • M66BM66B Veteran

    @cociu said:
    .

    @M66B said: You are the entrepreneur, so this has nothing to do with your customers.

    If you have a high number of disputes, this is mainly your problem, not the customers problem. Note that there is a difference between disputes and claims. The latter you can always fight.

    tell this to some chines people unfortunately this people is opened to make disputes first without open any tickets , etc etc. I cannot complain for disputes because is a verry small procentaje but man ... is happened so way i am obligate to suck all mess ? first of all the customer who open the dispute is client of paypal and after this my client . So wtf i am obligate to cover all this risck ?

    Just see a dispute as ticket. Maybe you need to inform Chinese people better? Maybe you should stop serving Chinese people? Again, you are the entrepreneur!

  • cociucociu Member
    edited October 2020

    @M66B said: Maybe you should stop serving Chinese people? Again, you are the entrepreneur!

    you see ... finally is all about communication and understand them. So what i told before , first of all a customer when pay with paypal is paypal customer and after this my customer , way paypal is not involucrate in this to inform this x procentaje of customers how should need to be the transaction in paypal ? is not bordered because is make money. Do not forgett paypal was lost many case (court case) because was abusive. ETC ETC, the truth maybe is somewhere in the middle .

    Stop to sell to a target country i see this a verry verry fucked because if i go to china for exemple i am espected to be served for my money i am sure i will not know all usual things from there so i will faill with something , this not mean china must to close the doors for EU or us citizen no ?

  • I mean this honestly: What in the literal fuck did you just type?

  • M66BM66B Veteran

    @PHDan said:
    I mean this honestly: What in the literal fuck did you just type?

    Don't take it to serious, this is what perfume poisoning does to you.

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  • @PHDan said: I mean this honestly: What in the literal fuck did you just type?

    the porn industry !

  • @M66B said: Don't take it to serious

    I'm used to the usual Cochewchew typos and folksy anachronisms but the posts in this thread are either intentional or he's had a stroke. For the argument of "He's not a native English speaker", fine, but I don't think Martian is something that is spelled differently in other languages. (" his marte rockets")

  • Adam1Adam1 Member
    edited October 2020

    @cociu said: you see ... finally is all about communication and understand them. So what i told before , first of all a customer when pay with paypal is paypal customer and after this my customer , way paypal is not involucrate in this to inform this x procentaje of customers how should need to be the transaction in paypal ? is not bordered because is make money. Do not forgett paypal was lost many case (court case) because was abusive. ETC ETC, the truth maybe is somewhere in the middle .

    Stop to sell to a target country i see this a verry verry fucked because if i go to china for exemple i am espected to be served for my money i am sure i will not know all usual things from there so i will faill with something , this not mean china must to close the doors for EU or us citizen no ?

    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? No, no one has really even far to go want look more like that, but I know what you are saying. Why would even want go as far more like that?

    But, how is babby formed? How girl get pragnent? They need to do way instain mother> who kill thier babbys, becuse these babby cant fright back? It was on the news this mroing a mother in ar who had kill her three kids, they are taking the three babby back to new york too lady to rest. my pary are with the father who lost his chrilden ; i am truley sorry for your lots

  • @cociu said: the porn industry !

    You know that was a joke by Raindog, right? Or have you just found something to replace "sisters" as the go to when you have nothing intelligent to say?

  • @PHDan said: Martian is something that is spelled differently in other languages. (" his marte rockets")

    you see , you have perfectly understanded , do you want to be my wife ?

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  • M66BM66B Veteran
    edited October 2020

    @PHDan said:

    @M66B said: Don't take it to serious

    I'm used to the usual Cochewchew typos and folksy anachronisms but the posts in this thread are either intentional or he's had a stroke. For the argument of "He's not a native English speaker", fine, but I don't think Martian is something that is spelled differently in other languages. (" his marte rockets")

    Covfefe you mean? ;-)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVFEFE_Act

  • @cociu said: do you want to be my wife ?

    No human deserves that kind of punishment. Should be part of the Geneva Convention.

  • @PHDan said: You know that was a joke by Raindog, right? Or have you just found something to replace "sisters" as the go to when you have nothing intelligent to say?

    a joke not a joke , i am invidious ... about my inteligence i dont think you are capable to measure it

  • M66BM66B Veteran

    @cociu said:

    @PHDan said: You know that was a joke by Raindog, right? Or have you just found something to replace "sisters" as the go to when you have nothing intelligent to say?

    a joke not a joke , i am invidious ... about my inteligence i dont think you are capable to measure it

    You mean that your arrogance is immeasurable?

  • cociucociu Member
    edited October 2020

    @M66B said: You mean that your arrogance is immeasurable?

    Where you see arrogance man ? really , i have give my point of view for this initial dicution aout paypal , if someone is take it personally is his problem.

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