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Centos 8 was released !

AndruAndru Member
edited September 2019 in General

any thoughts ?

The CentOS project, a 100% compatible rebuild of the Red Hat Enterprise Linux, in full compliance with Red Hat's redistribution requirements, has published a new version: CentOS 8.0.1905. The new version is based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.0 sources. There are two main editions of CentOS, depending on your needs, CentOS Linux and CentOS Steam: "You now have two ways to consume the CentOS platform, CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream. CentOS Linux is a rebuild of the freely available sources for Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). CentOS Stream is a midstream distribution that provides a cleared-path for participation in creating the next version of RHEL. Read more in the CentOS Stream release notes." CentOS Stream is a rolling release distribution that acts as a middle ground between the cutting edge packages in Fedora and the stable, long-term packages available in Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

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  • Me hungry.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    The end is surely nigh.

    Thanked by 2default JustPfff
  • ViridWebViridWeb Member, Host Rep

    Downloading right now..

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Putting it on my list for tomorrow, should be avail on NanoKVM by then.

  • SpeedBusSpeedBus Member, Host Rep

    Installer UI is pretty similar to CentOS 7,

    Just a change in the repository/URL scheme for the netinstall repos,

    For example, in CentOS 7 it was,

    http://MIRROR/centos/7/os/x86_64/
    

    now in CentOS 8 it's

    http://MIRROR/centos/8/BaseOS/x86_64/os/
    

    It includes cockpit as well (from RHEL8) -- web based server manager/monitoring/console thing, server prompts it in the login screen,

    Activate the web console with: systemctl enable --now cockpit.socket
    

    Run's a nice 4.18 kernel right out the box,

    [root@cent8 ~]# uname -r
    4.18.0-80.7.1.el8_0.x86_64
    

    The another change would be the inclusion of "dnf" to compliment "yum"

    [root@cent8 ~]# dnf update
    CentOS-8 - AppStream                            1.8 MB/s | 5.6 MB     00:03
    CentOS-8 - Base                                 1.7 MB/s | 5.3 MB     00:03
    CentOS-8 - Extras                               698  B/s | 2.1 kB     00:03
    Dependencies resolved.
    Nothing to do.
    Complete!
    
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    SpeedBus said: Installer UI is pretty similar to CentOS 7,

    Supports CentOS 7 kickstarters too without issue.

    Francisco

  • JordJord Moderator, Host Rep
    edited September 2019

    CentOS is prem. Glad to see they've released ver 8. Now it's time to do some testing and install some goodness.

  • SpeedBusSpeedBus Member, Host Rep
    edited September 2019

    @Francisco said:

    SpeedBus said: Installer UI is pretty similar to CentOS 7,

    Supports CentOS 7 kickstarters too without issue.

    Francisco

    Yup! Pretty neat so far, seems like a "refined" version of CentOS 7 :P
    With pretty much all working as usual so far.

    Have to see what version of libvirt/qemu etc is shipped with it, if there's anything new in that side of things.

    Thanked by 1gstar
  • Kernel 4.x.x by default in centos, this will be strange look for sure.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    Looking forward to seeing what changes for the sake of changing something RedHat has introduced with this version.

  • jlayjlay Member
    edited September 2019

    @raindog308 said:
    Looking forward to seeing what changes for the sake of changing something RedHat has introduced with this version.

    You spelled Canonical wrong

    edit: evidence piece #1 https://netplan.io/

    Thanked by 2xaoc skorous
  • Cool! A new version of the best OS!

    Thanked by 3xaoc skorous beagle
  • SpryServers_TabSpryServers_Tab Member, Host Rep

    @SpeedBus said:

    @Francisco said:

    SpeedBus said: Installer UI is pretty similar to CentOS 7,

    Supports CentOS 7 kickstarters too without issue.

    Francisco

    Yup! Pretty neat so far, seems like a "refined" version of CentOS 7 :P
    With pretty much all working as usual so far.

    Have to see what version of libvirt/qemu etc is shipped with it, if there's anything new in that side of things.

    As of right now, you can't use xfs in qcow2, as virt-sparsify and other virt prep don't work. I fucked with it all day before discovering this. For some reason something to do with uuids puts a read only flag on it. If you're creating vms templates use ext4. DM me if you need assistance as there were a couple other things i did too, which i don't feel like typing up on my phone right now.

  • Thanks, gotta try that!

  • So I'm normally a Debian and FreeBSD user but I'm excited to try out this CentOS Stream version.

  • aj_potcaj_potc Member
    edited September 2019

    I've got a number of applications that require the popular package ImageMagick, but I see that it's been removed in RHEL 8/CentOS 8. I also don't see it (yet) in the EPEL package list.

    Does anyone have a suggestion for how to handle this? I know I could install the RPM manually, but I really want to avoid doing things outside of the package manager, and would prefer to pull the package from a repo that's maintained.

  • It may take a while for all the packages to be released for CentOS 8 but for LAMP packages you can have a look at Remi Repo

  • eva2000eva2000 Veteran
    edited September 2019

    aj_potc said: I've got a number of applications that require the popular package ImageMagick, but I see that it's been removed in RHEL 8/CentOS 8. I also don't see it (yet) in the EPEL package list.

    You can find ImageMagick in EPEL EL8 but it's under epel-testing repo right now

    ImageMagick.x86_64                                6.9.10.64-1.el8                          epel-testing
    ImageMagick-c++.x86_64                            6.9.10.64-1.el8                          epel-testing
    ImageMagick-c++-devel.x86_64                      6.9.10.64-1.el8                          epel-testing
    ImageMagick-devel.x86_64                          6.9.10.64-1.el8                          epel-testing
    ImageMagick-doc.x86_64                            6.9.10.64-1.el8                          epel-testing
    ImageMagick-libs.x86_64                           6.9.10.64-1.el8                          epel-testing
    ImageMagick-perl.x86_64                           6.9.10.64-1.el8                          epel-testing
    

    There should be a version under slightly different name in REMI EL8 repo too - haven't checked yet. Doing my CentOS 8 testing locally via VirtualBox KVM guest VM and currently it's occupied doing other tasks heh.

    Been testing CentOS 8 and lots of changes to account for some things. Working to make Centmin Mod LEMP stack CentOS 8 compatible so started a work log outlining my progress at https://community.centminmod.com/threads/centmin-mod-centos-8-compatibility-worklog.18372/ :)

    edit: ImageMagick packages in EPEL and REMI EL8 repos

    ImageMagick.x86_64             6.9.10.64-1.el8         epel-testing
    ImageMagick.x86_64             1:6.9.10.65-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick.x86_64             1:6.9.10.66-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-c++.x86_64         6.9.10.64-1.el8         epel-testing
    ImageMagick-c++.x86_64         1:6.9.10.65-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-c++.x86_64         1:6.9.10.66-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-c++-devel.x86_64   6.9.10.64-1.el8         epel-testing
    ImageMagick-c++-devel.x86_64   1:6.9.10.65-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-c++-devel.x86_64   1:6.9.10.66-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-devel.x86_64       6.9.10.64-1.el8         epel-testing
    ImageMagick-devel.x86_64       1:6.9.10.65-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-devel.x86_64       1:6.9.10.66-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-djvu.x86_64        1:6.9.10.65-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-djvu.x86_64        1:6.9.10.66-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-doc.x86_64         6.9.10.64-1.el8         epel-testing
    ImageMagick-doc.x86_64         1:6.9.10.65-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-doc.x86_64         1:6.9.10.66-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-heic.x86_64        1:6.9.10.65-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-heic.x86_64        1:6.9.10.66-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-libs.x86_64        6.9.10.64-1.el8         epel-testing
    ImageMagick-libs.x86_64        1:6.9.10.65-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-libs.x86_64        1:6.9.10.66-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-perl.x86_64        6.9.10.64-1.el8         epel-testing
    ImageMagick-perl.x86_64        1:6.9.10.65-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick-perl.x86_64        1:6.9.10.66-1.el8.remi  remi
    ImageMagick7.x86_64            7.0.8.65-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7.x86_64            7.0.8.66-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-c++.x86_64        7.0.8.65-1.el8.remi     remi-safe
    ImageMagick7-c++.x86_64        7.0.8.65-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-c++.x86_64        7.0.8.66-1.el8.remi     remi-safe
    ImageMagick7-c++.x86_64        7.0.8.66-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-c++-devel.x86_64  7.0.8.65-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-c++-devel.x86_64  7.0.8.66-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-devel.x86_64      7.0.8.65-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-devel.x86_64      7.0.8.66-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-djvu.x86_64       7.0.8.65-1.el8.remi     remi-safe
    ImageMagick7-djvu.x86_64       7.0.8.65-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-djvu.x86_64       7.0.8.66-1.el8.remi     remi-safe
    ImageMagick7-djvu.x86_64       7.0.8.66-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-doc.x86_64        7.0.8.65-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-doc.x86_64        7.0.8.66-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-heic.x86_64       7.0.8.65-1.el8.remi     remi-safe
    ImageMagick7-heic.x86_64       7.0.8.65-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-heic.x86_64       7.0.8.66-1.el8.remi     remi-safe
    ImageMagick7-heic.x86_64       7.0.8.66-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-libs.x86_64       7.0.8.65-1.el8.remi     remi-safe
    ImageMagick7-libs.x86_64       7.0.8.65-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-libs.x86_64       7.0.8.66-1.el8.remi     remi-safe
    ImageMagick7-libs.x86_64       7.0.8.66-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-perl.x86_64       7.0.8.65-1.el8.remi     remi
    ImageMagick7-perl.x86_64       7.0.8.66-1.el8.remi     remi
    
  • @eva2000:

    Excellent info, thanks! You've clearly done far more work that I have! :wink:

    I think it's a bit early to be moving to CentOS 8 for production use, but it's good to see that the packages I need are already in EPEL for testing. Hopefully by the time I'm ready to take the plunge, everything will be more clear (or at least documented by others!).

  • Centos 8 released and i still use 6.x here

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  • I created solusvm templates with zero problem. I always install using dnf not the installer, so I have much more control, and I can actually use ext4 instead of xfs.

    There were problems in svm that it by default deploy templates in sparse mode (which skipping the holes and not zero fill them). Will crash ext4 if you have some combination of mkfs flags. And crashes NTFS. Lot's of testing work involved.

    EPEL still lacks some packages by now (jwhois be one of them.)

  • @imok said:
    Cool! A new version of the best OS!

    I prefer Linux.

  • ManalManal Member
    edited September 2019

    Not bragging, CentOS has already been my favorite OS in Linux compared to Debian & Ubuntu(which is least). Waiting for virtualizor to roll it in...

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    Looking forward to seeing what changes for the sake of changing something RedHat has introduced with this version.

    You spelled Canonical wrong

    Eh...systemd, firewalld, the list goes on.

    But really it's a Linux problem. Those halfwits can't even keep their man pages straight. Or even use man pages.

    In my opinion:

    Adult's Table: OpenBSD, FreeBSD, Debian

    Kid's Table: RHEL, Ubuntu

    Special Needs Drool Table: Windows

    Everything Else: Not invited to the party because people forgot that branch of the family

  • @raindog308 said:

    Looking forward to seeing what changes for the sake of changing something RedHat has introduced with this version.

    You spelled Canonical wrong

    Eh...systemd, firewalld, the list goes on.

    But really it's a Linux problem. Those halfwits can't even keep their man pages straight. Or even use man pages.

    In my opinion:

    Adult's Table: OpenBSD, FreeBSD, Debian

    Kid's Table: RHEL, Ubuntu

    Special Needs Drool Table: Windows

    Everything Else: Not invited to the party because people forgot that branch of the family

    For what purpose? It's like you're thinking a server or appliance should be a workstation or something. It doesn't match reality or real world at all.

  • raindog308 said: Adult's Table: OpenBSD, FreeBSD, Debian

    I always picture the BSD folks as those two Goth kids sitting alone on the porch talking about what losers everybody else is while everybody else just ignores them and has a good time.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    TimboJones said: For what purpose? It's like you're thinking a server or appliance should be a workstation or something. It doesn't match reality or real world at all.

    In terms of maturity. OpenBSD, for example, is extremely well documented, routinely audits their code, has consistency across its entire codebase, etc.

    Debian is less well-documented but more stable release-to-release than most other distros.

    RedHat is a wild mix of code quality, documentation formats (if documentation even exists), extreme changes between versions for arbitrary reasons, etc.

  • @raindog308 what you think of alpine os?

  • Have to get kvm with more ram.
    Attention At least 2 GB RAM are required to install and use CentOS-8 (1905). At least 4 GB RAM is recommended.
    https://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS8.1905

    Thanked by 1postcd
  • Centos fo life

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