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RamNode? BuyVM? Want VDS with good CPU

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  • jvnadrjvnadr Member
    edited April 2018

    Harambe said: Oh, yeah, they got rid of the $20/4GB option. Welp, BuyVM was already cheaper and now it's way cheaper.

    With those prices, Ramnode is expensive option... If I assume that the E3 @ 3,3GHz is something like 1230v2 or v3 (they don't specify what is the processor on the dedi core plan, just that it's an E3 with this speed), the servers are not brand new neither extremely expensive, so, 7 threads x 25$ each (let's keep one thread for server's usage) is 175$, way more than the average cost of renting such kind of server. And, as their hardware and network gear is not rented but they own it, then, the profit margin is huge - not to mention that the servers should already have depreciate their value...
    Of course, there is a cost for top-notch support and first grade traffic, but nowadays most of the companies do lowering their prices due to minimizing their costs...

  • nfnnfn Veteran

    What does 1/4 and 1/2 core means for buyvm?

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  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited April 2018

    @nfn said:
    What does 1/4 and 1/2 core means for buyvm?

    I believe, 1/4 probably means one thread (aka core in marketing) is shared by 4 virtual servers. That’s why it lists FAIR USE in the description.

    @Francisco at BuyVM can confirm this.

    Personally, I would prefer 1 dedicated core (2 threads) for any usage that needs good CPU utilization.

  • HxxxHxxx Member
    edited April 2018

    Good CPU? , ok get a High CPU Droplet at Digital Ocean.

  • HxxxHxxx Member
    edited April 2018
  • With your budget, What about a 40-50 Euro/mo KabyLake E3 dedi (SSD) at Clouvider(LON) or Hetzner(GER) ? (32GB-64GB ram too)

    Load up Proxmox 5.1 and you can virtualise to your hearts content.

  • IonSwitch_StanIonSwitch_Stan Member, Host Rep

    I believe, 1/4 probably means one thread (aka core in marketing)

    I can't speak for Francesco -- but a thread and a core are not the same at all. A core is a dedicated compute resource, whereas a thread (or hyperthreading) is a shared execution pipeline. The nuance here is that many providers DO actually sell "dedicated threads" and not "dedicated cores". The difference means that you can possibly have non-deterministic performance if there is high CPU contention by other users of the host.

    Personally, I would prefer 1 dedicated core (2 threads) for any usage that needs good CPU utilization.

    I have yet to see a provider (atleast a low end provider) who sells actual dedicated phyiscal cores. I would not assume a dedicated core is 2 threads unless it is explicitly mentioned.

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  • erkinerkin Member

    @Francisco 's BuyVM is OK and also I might have suggested you drServer.net 's abusivecores if they were not out of stock.

  • jetchiragjetchirag Member
    edited April 2018

    Abusivecore is quite an unconventional name. To this day I used to believe dedicated community cores can be abused but never heard they abuse too.

    Edit: I just made this: 'abuse cores not people'

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  • sureiamsureiam Member
    edited April 2018

    I'll say this about Vultr.. Snapshots are freaking awesome! stability of their cheapest node though could use some work. A much more affordable host actually has given me much better stability. Although scripting backups is kind of annoying and really only reason I would consider working with Vultr

  • BuyVM for all the reasons others have noted.

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  • Just wanted to ask, have you contacted your current provider to see if they can offer anything better for you?
    Being a customer for 10 years surely must mean something to them and they might be able to get you something really nice.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @sureiam said:
    I'll say this about Vultr.. Snapshots are freaking awesome! stability of their cheapest node though could use some work. A much more affordable host actually has given me much better stability. Although scripting backups is kind of annoying and really only reason I would consider working with Vultr

    SOON(tm).

    Though I think to keep the GDPR hawks happy we'll have to do them as 'free (opt-in) backups'.

    Francisco

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  • The thread keeps on growing! I feel I should just thank every post. (c;

    I initially tried to order the $80 RamNode server last month but it was out of stock, but the time stock became available it was $100. I enquired about the price hike and they confirmed margins were low and demand was high. They offered it at $90 but by the time I said yes they were out of stock again!

    alberto2345 said: Just wanted to ask, have you contacted your current provider to see if they can offer anything better for you? Being a customer for 10 years surely must mean something to them and they might be able to get you something really nice.

    Glad you asked, I certainly did do that. Rodney's email pointed me to their website and a customer service rep offered a server @ $259.99 a month (currently paying $104). Really disappointing responses, so much so I didn't even bother responding to either of them.

    To answer some questions regarding other hosts;

    • Kimsufi - Never heard of them, also seems to be no US location.
    • Dr.Server/AbusiveCore - Hadn't heard of them either. Only 1 thread option and not enough disk space.
    • Clouvider(LON) or Hetzner(GER) - Hadn't heard of them. Now that I have.. locations are an issue. About 2/3rds of my traffics is from US so want to keep it within the US.
    • Vultr - Was tempted until I saw their cheapest dedicated CPU VPS w/ RAID setup is $120 a month.
    • Linode - No dedicated CPU (afaict).
    • OVH - I did look at one of their servers (B2-15) but the disk was a bit low. Am tempted by their current dedicated offer for the new West Coast DC, but I think I need to be sensible and recognise I really don't need a dedicated server. Must... be... logical...
    • DO - Storage is too small. I'm sure I could add more storage (as with some others) but then we're in the pricing area where I might as well get the dedi from OVH.

    Not sure if any of that's of interest, but thought maybe someone might want to know how my process of elimination worked. OVH and DO are tempting, but I get the impression I'm paying more for features I don't really need or won't benefit from. I'll be self-managing the server so I just need a good solid host who will keep my VM running smoothly.

    Thanks again one and all.

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  • omelasomelas Member
    edited April 2018

    kimsufi and soyouhost are budget brands of OVH

  • jaypeesmithjaypeesmith Member
    edited April 2018

    Hosthatch has an option of 8 dedicated cores,32GB RAM, 180GB Disk for $80.

    https://hosthatch.com/ssd-vps

  • HxxxHxxx Member
    edited April 2018

    I mean you can't just compare trash OVH with DO mah dude.

  • sinsin Member

    Maybe @vapornode dedicated core line? https://vapornode.com/high-cpu-vps

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  • TBH BTW, load 1.3-1.8 on E5620 is not even close to "good CPU".

    For example, BuyVM utilizes E3 range (IIRC) on their slices, and 2 dedicate threads is pretty enough for your needs.

    Linode on the other hand, albeit not providing dedicated CPUs, does allow you to use as much CPU as you want. Linode 8GB plan gives you access to 4x E5-2697 v4 or E5-2680 v2/v3, which are fairly quick processors. Both plan should have similar CPU performance.

    Anyway, I second for BuyVM if you want more flexibility. Francisco is extremely kind and helpful, and I was mostly satisfied with their service.

    Linode is also great for their reputation and performance, however the SSD space is smaller than your requests.

    Ramnode ranks 3 for me. Had a box running there for about 3 years, and has been stable as fvvk. But pricing is not ideal at this moment -- almost same price as 3 years ago I believe.

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  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    Since BuyVM has been mentioned, could someone with the plan Slice 1024 (for $3.50/month) post the result of cat /proc/cpuinfo? Just curious.

  • filefile Member

    Las Vegas:

    processor   : 0
    vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
    cpu family  : 6
    model       : 60
    model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1270 v3 @ 3.50GHz
    stepping    : 3
    microcode   : 0x1
    cpu MHz     : 3500.016
    cache size  : 16384 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings    : 1
    core id     : 0
    cpu cores   : 1
    apicid      : 0
    initial apicid  : 0
    fpu     : yes
    fpu_exception   : yes
    cpuid level : 13
    wp      : yes
    flags       : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon rep_good nopl xtopology eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq ssse3 fma cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid xsaveopt arat
    bugs        :
    bogomips    : 7000.03
    clflush size    : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management:
    

    New York:

    processor   : 0
    vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
    cpu family  : 6
    model       : 60
    model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1241 v3 @ 3.50GHz
    stepping    : 3
    microcode   : 0x1
    cpu MHz     : 3500.014
    cache size  : 16384 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings    : 1
    core id     : 0
    cpu cores   : 1
    apicid      : 0
    initial apicid  : 0
    fpu     : yes
    fpu_exception   : yes
    cpuid level : 13
    wp      : yes
    flags       : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon rep_good nopl xtopology eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq ssse3 fma cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm invpcid_single retpoline kaiser fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid xsaveopt arat
    bugs        : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2
    bogomips    : 7000.02
    clflush size    : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management:
    
  • eva2000eva2000 Veteran
    edited April 2018

    msg7086 said: Linode on the other hand, albeit not providing dedicated CPUs, does allow you to use as much CPU as you want. Linode 8GB plan gives you access to 4x E5-2697 v4 or E5-2680 v2/v3, which are fairly quick processors. Both plan should have similar CPU performance.

    FYI, Linode now also offers Intel Xeon 6148 and AMD EPYC 7501 cpus as well https://community.centminmod.com/threads/guessing-linodes-next-server-cpus.12642/#post-61453

    • Xeon 6148 has 20 core turbo boost for normal work loads is 3.10Ghz, AVX2 is 2.60Ghz and AVX512 work loads at 2.20Ghz and 12 core turbo boost is 3.40Ghz
    • Xeon E5-2697v4 has 18 core turbo boost to 2.80Ghz
    • AMD EPYC 7501 has 12 core turbo boost is at 3.0Ghz while 13-32 cores is at 2.60Ghz.

    Haven't tried Ramnode VDS yet but did try BuyVM slices almost 2 years ago - wow been that long https://community.centminmod.com/threads/buyvm-net-new-kvm-plans-on-intel-xeon-e3-1270v3-host-nodes.7573/. I still do have one BuyVM slice 1/4 core for a static html site of mine though. You'd want 2 or 4 dedicated cores though if you have any kind of cpu intensive work loads.

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  • FalzoFalzo Member

    if to choose from the two initially mentioned I'd take BuyVM, as it seems you'll get more out of it for your money. sadly oos...

    maybe want to check @UltraVPS https://www.ultravps.eu/en/?pdid=OB595E46555DO6331C64 (ref -15% for 6m) prices are incl. german VAT which they deduct for german customers, would say something like UltraSSD-200 fits your requirements easily. while the cores are not dedicated, you can use them without restrictions. they have zfs/raid-z underlying...

    also there is leaseweb, at least their XXL vserver should be sufficient SSD ;-)

    out of those three you always should be able to get what you need at around $30, everything else probably is just overprized..

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  • JonesJones Member

    @Francisco ..............BuyVM Out of Stock ,Waiting for diligent people to replenish supply :)

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Jones said:
    @Francisco ..............BuyVM Out of Stock ,Waiting for diligent people to replenish supply :)

    We got a few plans in stock right now :)

    Not a lot, but something.

    I'm in the midst (as in, in Vegas right now) of building another rack of slices.

    I'll be putting that rack for sale before storage is online just because the demands there for it. I'll still do the beta we promised and likely offer free storage slabs to active customers too.

    Francisco

  • @francisco

    waiting for the beta, good to know that it is coming fast. I am holding my LU slice for storage add-on :)

  • SetsuraSetsura Member
    edited April 2018

    @Francisco said:

    @Jones said:
    @Francisco ..............BuyVM Out of Stock ,Waiting for diligent people to replenish supply :)

    We got a few plans in stock right now :)

    Not a lot, but something.

    I'm in the midst (as in, in Vegas right now) of building another rack of slices.

    I'll be putting that rack for sale before storage is online just because the demands there for it. I'll still do the beta we promised and likely offer free storage slabs to active customers too.

    Francisco

    Any LUX soon? Need some for a DDoS protection thing.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    Setsura said: Any LUX soon? Need some for a DDoS protection thing.

    On the 1st but no new nodes past cancellations.

    I'll be going to LUX next year to redo the rack (since it's a complete mess from what I've seen) and will take not only some more slices but also a slab configuration with me.

    Francisco

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  • Thought it might be helpful to someone, some time, if I provided some feedback!

    After a lot of waiting for stock I eventually got a Slice 8192 at BuyVM (in NY). Migrated multiple websites (custom and some WordPress) to the server and haven't really looked back. Websites seem faster than our old dedicated box with SATA storage. Uptime is basically since I last chose to reboot the box and everything is stable.

    SSD and processor seem very fast, I had prepared myself that I might have to upgrade to a bigger slice but everything's going so well I can't see me having to do that any time soon.

    RDNS was easy via Stallion. Had an issue with the CentOS ISO not being available but Francisco quickly sorted that out, as well as SMTP which is blocked by default but again Fran whitelisted us without any unnecessary hoops to jump through. Ticket response time has been a few hours on average, logged as medium priority so that's also good.

    We also missed a payment which wasn't a good start by us, but we were given ample time to sort it out.

    All in all a fantastic experience, thanks for your advice in the thread. Really feel like I've gotten a complete bargain! (c;

    Thanked by 2Francisco Harambe
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    Thank you!

    Francisco

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