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I spammed and OVH suspended me for it

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  • @jarland said:
    I actually do feel your pain. My incoming backup relays were there, meaning they received email and relayed the mail back to my primary server. They intercept mail traffic and scan it, leaving me with two options. Either I filter the mail with 0% failure or leave, because they'll block SMTP automatically. Despite zero risk with me, obviously. So I'm leaving OVH completely.

    At last someone commented me with the hurting truth and i know you truly experienced the ovh , then only someone can comment like this. Thank you Jarland

    Thanked by 1Clouvider
  • On the first day of work in this New Year, I was greeted by a bunch of spam in my email. This is unusual as I run greylisting and have spamassassin dialed in pretty well. So I decided to start my day off looking at the headers and using IP whois. Every spam email was from a .bid domain from an IP owned by OVH. I forwarded every spam email to [email protected]. I never got a response, but although I can empathize with your problem as a provider, I am glad OVH is doing something about the spam. In the past, I complained many times to CC without effect.

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    @MTUser2012 said:
    On the first day of work in this New Year, I was greeted by a bunch of spam in my email. This is unusual as I run greylisting and have spamassassin dialed in pretty well. So I decided to start my day off looking at the headers and using IP whois. Every spam email was from a .bid domain from an IP owned by OVH. I forwarded every spam email to [email protected]. I never got a response, but although I can empathize with your problem as a provider, I am glad OVH is doing something about the spam. In the past, I complained many times to CC without effect.

    Ah, the good ol' .bid domains...

  • I've sent some rather (relatively) large email campaigns from OVH VPS's, not once have I been suspended.

    The only way you'll be suspended, is if OVH manually confirms that you've sent spam.

  • @Aidan said:
    I've sent some rather (relatively) large email campaigns from OVH VPS's, not once have I been suspended.

    The only way you'll be suspended, is if OVH manually confirms that you've sent spam.

    And given that he got 2 warnings for it, I suppose he didn't change a thing between then and the final booting.

  • Kinda glad too OVH is cleaning up because OVH will be the source of the spam or the webserver IP of the spammed URLs in the email. Maybe they were getting threats from Spamhaus.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited January 2018

    @Aidan said:
    I've sent some rather (relatively) large email campaigns from OVH VPS's, not once have I been suspended.

    The only way you'll be suspended, is if OVH manually confirms that you've sent spam.

    Maybe but they'll definitely block SMTP at least without anything more than automation tied in with vade retro.

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider
    edited January 2018

    @Aidan They automatically block IPs that [is sending mail with a] high spam scores, if the spam score is low you can send all you want. If someone reports mail spam that's when they manually check. I've send tens of thousands of e-mails on OVH and never had an automatic block.

    Edit: Before I trigger anyone, this isn't me defending their spam blocking system or whatever, just saying how it works.

    Thanked by 2doughmanes Aidan
  • @Gods said:
    Well obviously use a host like Ecatel/Novogara or a host that will forward you abuse complaints and you will get to deal with them yourself.

    Obviously the above isn't necessary illegal but don't be a dick and spam shit

    I think they don't allow spam, dos and similar.

    http://www.novogara.com/info/faq

    Which content is not allowed on my server(s)?
    Novogara does not allow anything (related) to the following content:
    
    - Spam
    - Malware
    - Phishing
    - Ddos
    - Childporn
    
  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    Janevski said: I think they don't allow spam, dos and similar.

    Nobody can really advertise they are breaking the law, except someone who is proud of it, but will not last long in this world. They will be nullrouted if not worse.
    And will receive mail from those ranges anyway...

  • I send ~100k mails/month with the cheapest OVH VPS and it works fine.

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @Maounique said:

    Janevski said: I think they don't allow spam, dos and similar.

    Nobody can really advertise they are breaking the law, except someone who is proud of it, but will not last long in this world. They will be nullrouted if not worse.
    And will receive mail from those ranges anyway...

    Oh, there are people on this very forum that are sadly go to for that, and proud of it too.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    Clouvider said: Oh, there are people on this very forum that are sadly go to for that, and proud of it too.

    Exactly my point, some people can be proud of braking the law, we have an illustrious example here, however, that does not mean they will last long. People who do that have a serious problem elsewhere, if the arm of the law wont catch up with them, they will do something else even more stupid, eventually.

    Thanked by 1Clouvider
  • GodsGods Member
    edited January 2018

    @Janevski said:

    @Gods said:
    Well obviously use a host like Ecatel/Novogara or a host that will forward you abuse complaints and you will get to deal with them yourself.

    Obviously the above isn't necessary illegal but don't be a dick and spam shit

    I think they don't allow spam, dos and similar.

    http://www.novogara.com/info/faq

    Lol you clearly don't know Ecatel or Novogara.

    They're literally known as a safe haven for cyber criminals

  • Spam is serious issue, no cheap provider will tolerate it.

  • @robert4u said:
    Spam is serious issue, no cheap provider will tolerate it.

    You're actually taking your time to get that Provider tag

  • I personally think that just banning spammers is way too soft. Actually they should be shot. First, say in their leg, as a serious warning.

    Spammers are among the worst of scum and create billions in damage and they should be held liable and the punishment should be hard enough to make spamming very unattractive.

    Thanked by 1doughmanes
  • @bsdguy said:
    I personally think that just banning.spammers is way too soft. Actually they should be shot. First, say in their leg, as a serious warning.

    Spammers are among the worst of scum and create billions in damage and they should be held liable and the punishment should be hard enough to make spamming very unattractive.

    In the ass or genitals would be a better message. The ass cause that's where their shit comes from and the genitals so they can't reproduce.

  • most hosting providers will give you one or two warnings before terminating your server, but if the servers were just set up and the spam started almost as soon as you got your hands on them, termination is almost a given

  • WSSWSS Member

    @LoreSYS said:
    most hosting providers will give you one or two warnings before terminating your server

    Did you even read the two sentences the OP wrote?

  • @WSS said:

    @LoreSYS said:
    most hosting providers will give you one or two warnings before terminating your server

    Did you even read the two sentences the OP wrote?

    I think he did. He's stating the obvious :P

    Thanked by 1WSS
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @needavps said:

    @WSS said:

    @LoreSYS said:
    most hosting providers will give you one or two warnings before terminating your server

    Did you even read the two sentences the OP wrote?

    I think he did. He's stating the obvious :P

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  • needavpsneedavps Member
    edited January 2018

    @jarland said:

    @needavps said:

    @WSS said:

    @LoreSYS said:
    most hosting providers will give you one or two warnings before terminating your server

    Did you even read the two sentences the OP wrote?

    I think he did. He's stating the obvious :P

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    ? jpg makes no sense. you are admin and I see that signature all the time. heh
    nm. i see what you are getting at...

  • I like how the OP is upset that they suspended/terminated his service for not responding to requests to resolve issues regarding the security of their network. How dare they!

    Thanked by 1Aidan
  • hzrhzr Member

    Gods said: Lol you clearly don't know Ecatel or Novogara.

    Quasi Networks / Acasia Networks now

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