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[Net Neutrality] And it's gone

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  • @doughmanes said:
    Geez, NRA comments on LET when they didn't do anything when Bush Sr banned firearms at the federal level and almost starting going after magazine capacity due to Bill Ruger's "Letter to Congress" that suggested 10 magical rounds. However NRA is "scary" to some people when they'll compromise due to past history of compromising.

    It's amazing how guns are always the problem to people who want the big bad government to protect them from their neighbors (who they've never met).

    @raindog308 said:

    FlamesRunner said: How do you think the NRA exists?

    Partly through my Life Member contributions.

    I wish I could afford to contribute, still. I'm a lifer, but broke. At least now that we lost Net Neutrality, I can unsubscribe from DemandProgress, because the rest of their attempted force-of-hand bullshit makes me puke.

  • I mean.. it's just legal now. Before they did it illegally.

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  • I think this does happen alot actually. This would be less of an issue if these things weren't oligopolies because well if one is slowing down a favourite site you could easily change, but in many places, you got very few options like in rural towns for instance. The below link is not about ISP's but this is an almost esential monopolist doing something crappy because they can. You might say that well you could use bing bro, we have a lot of good search engines. Well in my experience bing is less good at finding things than google.

    Read this for example

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  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Live in small town with one ISP, no issues before, no issues yet. Will update you if it changes.

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited December 2017

    LET should be its own nation. We need unilateral declaration of independence from the internet.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    deank said: LET should be its own nation. We need unilateral declaration of independence from the internet.

    Fuck yeah! We already have a pretty accurate analogue of most nations' parliaments: the Cest Pit.

    .let TLD anyone?

  • mfsmfs Banned, Member
    edited December 2017

    This is one one those topics where people hold strong opinions (like often happens in politics) and it's somewhat amusing that the subject moved to NRA so quickly (very American)

    Netflix, Facebook, Google and so on are always the loudest whiners against tolls carriers may ask them since they're such a bandwidth burden and I doubt something actually damaging them could ever happen; and in the end we'll be convinced that the battle is for indie innovative webdevs who can't fight back Spotify's hegemony on zero-rating mobile plans

    I preferred the Great Berlin Wall of Mexico (wholly financed by Mexico) dramastic meme but this guy drinking from a big orange mug is all the rage right now

    hammer said: Read this for example

    “Google’s practices have deprived millions of European consumers of the full benefits of competition, genuine choice and innovation,” she added.

    much deprived

    very wow

    There's this French Qwant hyped recently (with a fallback "bang" syntax à la duckduckgo) but it's not quite there yet; it leverages on the European "perception" of "privacy" in the commercial you should find on their homepage as well (at least in the Deutschland/Suisse/Italia region); obviously it supports net neutrality explicitly (well, most States in Europe allegedly support net neutrality, then e.g. zero-rating plans are a thing) since, hey, only Trump and Hitler are against net neutrality. Then again, they received from EIB some 25 million € so yeah they're indie webdevs fighting back monopolies with their own bare hands

  • @jarland said:
    Live in small town with one ISP, no issues before, no issues yet. Will update you if it changes.

    Same here and I highly doubt they will do shit about any kind of traffic shaping.

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  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @hostdare said:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

    21 USA
    32 India

    which seems quite ok for such huge countries

    sarcasm , you missed it ?

    Did you just linked wikipedia as source?

    Oh boy, wikipedia is accurate as fuck, in terms of political stuff.

  • Well nice. I am just glad that everybody can agree to disagree with out this place becoming like the forums in news papers where each tribe is screaming at the top of their lungs at the other tribe.

    Not sure about my own politics actually.

    @raindog308 said:

    deank said: LET should be its own nation. We need unilateral declaration of independence from the internet.

    Fuck yeah! We already have a pretty accurate analogue of most nations' parliaments: the Cest Pit.

    .let TLD anyone?

    We should form a socialist country called LET land please implementing fiscal conservatism so that the credit card isn't maxed and nobody gets completely left behind?

  • MasonRMasonR Community Contributor

    @Neoon said:

    @hostdare said:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

    21 USA
    32 India

    which seems quite ok for such huge countries

    sarcasm , you missed it ?

    Did you just linked wikipedia as source?

    Oh boy, wikipedia is accurate as fuck, in terms of political stuff.

    Or, you know, you could just look at the sources referenced on the page for the original content/report.

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  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    MasonR said: Or, you know, you could just look at the sources referenced on the page for the original content/report.

    Scam. Refund plz.

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  • MasonRMasonR Community Contributor
    edited December 2017

    @jarland said:

    MasonR said: Or, you know, you could just look at the sources referenced on the page for the original content/report.

    Scam. Refund plz.

    My apologies. I forgot that LET requires scholarly, peer-reviewed sources of information that are recommended by 4 out of 5 dentists.

    Your Wikipedia donation has been refunded, please avoid opening a PayPal dispute for any future donations.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @MasonR said:

    @Neoon said:

    @hostdare said:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

    21 USA
    32 India

    which seems quite ok for such huge countries

    sarcasm , you missed it ?

    Did you just linked wikipedia as source?

    Oh boy, wikipedia is accurate as fuck, in terms of political stuff.

    Or, you know, you could just look at the sources referenced on the page for the original content/report.

    Well, I am not going to revalidated these sources.
    Sometimes there is a lot of shit/fake stuff linked in wikipedia sources.

    If you want to take them for granted, you need to validated all the sources.

  • I love wiki I learned so much from it.

    When I was more of a millenial, I used to look up countries of the worlds on it, different animals, histories of empires and other fun crap like that.

    Now I only like computers, other people's computers through the internet, and news.

  • mfsmfs Banned, Member

    hammer said:

    We should form a socialist country called LET land please implementing fiscal conservatism so that the credit card isn't maxed and nobody gets completely left behind?

    You just described Vatican City (socialist/charitable, no VAT/low taxes, no sinful riches unless it's for the Church); yet again, you'll have to accept One and Only One Provider

  • I like vat and taxes actually, I just like them to be used for a surplus especially in the "good growth years" or at least balanced budget because another recession will happen.

  • mfsmfs Banned, Member
    edited December 2017

    hammer said: to be used for a surplus in the "good growth years"

    Venezuela is calling and telling you that, at least, you should diligently reinvest rather than keeping your money under the mattress or living the bling bling life for a while

    Assuming you can get a competitive and efficient service with economics governed by a State, but that's a different chapter

    You can't really drive an economy thinking that there will be a recession; the moment you're doing so, you're in the recession and the 1 hundred trillion Zimbabwe dollars you placed in your mattress are worth nothing

  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider

    Neoon said: Sometimes there is a lot of shit/fake stuff linked in wikipedia sources.

    Yeah but list seems not very incorrect . Small and western countries at top with little people where direct democracy possible , bigger and autocratic countries/middle east countries are down which is natural . They are relative . It is not like you are better than me . Every country has specially .

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  • USA #1 . If you think otherwise you are wrong, death wrong.

  • mfsmfs Banned, Member

    Youtube and millennials, can't go wrong with it

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  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    Hxxx said: USA #1

    No! China nombaa oneeee

    china nombeee ooonwwwwwweeeee

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @netomx said:

    Hxxx said: USA #1

    No! China nombaa oneeee

    china nombeee ooonwwwwwweeeee

    Looks like you’re not wasting time on Friday :p

  • THIS iS THE END OF THE INTERNET AS WE KNOW IT

    I AM MOVING TO CANADA

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  • I heard Germany is also good.

  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    Clouvider said: Looks like you’re not wasting time on Friday :p

    hahaha, i am getting home, I am really tired of tody at the office

    Fuck it, 4:41pm

  • Welcome to the world where Telecom dominates Everything. (South Korea lacks Net Neutrality too!)

  • @jarland said:

    MasonR said: Or, you know, you could just look at the sources referenced on the page for the original content/report.

    Scam. Refund plz.

    Scam. Chargeback issued. (fixed that for you).

  • JanevskiJanevski Member
    edited December 2017

    I predict burstable but no continuous broadband speed for all of the connections, except for the well defined additionally paid ones. Yes, you pay for 1Gbps and your connection can burst up to 1Gbps, but you can't effectively use it for anything else except youtube, netflix or whatever package you additionally paid for.

    But, that won't be good enough, so those parasites will start offering limited additional packages, like for example 50GB of youtube. If you want another 50 of fast youtube you'll have to pay.

    Then, even that won't be good enough and instead of slower speed they'll start showing captive portals towards blocking access altogether, if the user doesn't cough up the money.

    But then, when that won't be enough as well, they'll start automatically charging overages instead. You watched 11GB of youtube this month? You'll pay for that 1GB more, at a more expensive rate, for sure.

    They'll corner up the market, aggregate, jack up the pricess and shorten the offers.

    A significant part of those money is going to go towards the content providers, so they'll shut up and finally this smut, the entertainment industry wins. It profits from legally racketeering people. It shoves content and you have to pay, wheter you like it or not.

    PS: Did I forget to mention tracking everyone and injecting targeted isp ads/content?

    Yes, all of this "goodness" and you have to pay for it.
    It's beyond evil.

    Kill'em while they're young.

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