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  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    Just for the US, though

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  • Come to Turkey, where everyone has equally blocked internet where there is no wikipedia, imgur, paypal or porn!

    If you guys don't go on streets to protest, you'll see worse things. We thought protesting in our chairs would help, it only got worse.

    Thanked by 2PrestigeWS bugrakoc
  • Any telecom stock might be a good idea for the time being.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited December 2017

    Yep. The internet will return to what it was prior. Which is basically the same thing it was yesterday. Riots will ensue. Some websites will probably protest by limiting access and will in turn create the internet they're so deathly afraid of in the process.

    bitswitch said: Any telecom stock might be a good idea for the time being.

    I wouldn't. It's implementation didn't impact them, stands to reason it's repeal also will not. Not a good growth market IMO, at least not for anything more than really long term gains.

  • VPN sales gonna go up !!

  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider

    @DoubleDouble said:
    VPN sales gonna go up !!

    Well now ISP providers can prioritize traffic based on their contract with that site or charge users to visit a site .like if Netflix pays Verizon ,they will get priority over other traffic .
    So VPN will not fix it wholly .

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    Oh noes!!!!11!!!1! The internet will be just like it was in 2015!

    Thanked by 2jar vedran
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited December 2017

    @hostdare said:

    @DoubleDouble said:
    VPN sales gonna go up !!

    Well now ISP providers can prioritize traffic based on their contract with that site or charge users to visit a site .like if Netflix pays Verizon ,they will get priority over other traffic .
    So VPN will not fix it wholly .

    Obfuscate the traffic so they can't tell what it is. Of course, there's no use in helping people get around it while the entire problem is theoretical anyway. It's only been illegal for them to do that for a two year stretch of time, they've several years of not doing it under their belt. Not a safe bet to start a business for helping people work around theoretical problems.

    The sensational news is pretty entertaining but the reality is nothing changed today, just like nothing changed two years ago when it was introduced.

  • risharderisharde Patron Provider, Veteran

    I am not surprised... Nothing will change until email version 2 is released and when spam blacklists disappear...
    But even hell will freeze over by then...

  • HTTP/3 will change everything. Everyone will have to run a Node service to run all traffic through rot13 to break the system.

    Hopefully everyone will be sterile, and the cockroaches will take over.

    Thanked by 2Tom svmo
  • @jarland said:

    @hostdare said:

    @DoubleDouble said:
    VPN sales gonna go up !!

    Well now ISP providers can prioritize traffic based on their contract with that site or charge users to visit a site .like if Netflix pays Verizon ,they will get priority over other traffic .
    So VPN will not fix it wholly .

    Obfuscate the traffic so they can't tell what it is. Of course, there's no use in helping people get around it while the entire problem is theoretical anyway. It's only been illegal for them to do that for a two year stretch of time, they've several years of not doing it under their belt. Not a safe bet to start a business for helping people work around theoretical problems.

    The sensational news is pretty entertaining but the reality is nothing changed today, just like nothing changed two years ago when it was introduced.

    If Obfuscated traffic get lower priority using vpn just make connection slower

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  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @robohost said:

    @jarland said:

    @hostdare said:

    @DoubleDouble said:
    VPN sales gonna go up !!

    Well now ISP providers can prioritize traffic based on their contract with that site or charge users to visit a site .like if Netflix pays Verizon ,they will get priority over other traffic .
    So VPN will not fix it wholly .

    Obfuscate the traffic so they can't tell what it is. Of course, there's no use in helping people get around it while the entire problem is theoretical anyway. It's only been illegal for them to do that for a two year stretch of time, they've several years of not doing it under their belt. Not a safe bet to start a business for helping people work around theoretical problems.

    The sensational news is pretty entertaining but the reality is nothing changed today, just like nothing changed two years ago when it was introduced.

    If Obfuscated traffic get lower priority using vpn just make connection slower

    Well sounds like you've got some problems to solve if the problems actually materialize. No sense in solving them first, nothing to test the solutions against.

  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider

    @robohost said:
    If Obfuscated traffic get lower priority using vpn just make connection slower

    Yes definitely .

    If YouTube pays the isp for traffic or users buy to watch YouTube ,this traffic will get priority over normal traffic or VPN .
    So VPN is not going solve the issue as isp will not block any website but slow down non paid traffic .

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @hostdare said:

    @robohost said:
    If Obfuscated traffic get lower priority using vpn just make connection slower

    Yes definitely .

    If YouTube pays the isp for traffic or users buy to watch YouTube ,this traffic will get priority over normal traffic or VPN .
    So VPN is not going solve the issue as isp will not block any website but slow down non paid traffic .

    Man you guys have these theoretical problems all figured out ;)

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  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider

    They tried that here in India but failed to pass

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @hostdare said:
    They tried that here in India but failed to pass

    India is a different culture though. Americans are very entitled and defiant.

  • WSSWSS Member
    edited December 2017

    @jarland said:

    @hostdare said:
    They tried that here in India but failed to pass

    India is a different culture though. Americans are very entitled and defiant.

    The smugness comes in two ply.

    Thanked by 2jar hostdare
  • adxnadxn Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2017

    @hostdare said:
    They tried that here in India but failed to pass

    If this would have happened in India, then we would have lost that glorious trending section of Youtube in India.

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  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider

    jarland said: Americans are very entitled and defiant.

    America means freedom here, if USA has passed, other countries will adopt slowly :)

  • @hostdare said:

    jarland said: Americans are very entitled and defiant.

    America means freedom here, if USA has passed, other countries will adopt slowly :)

    America? Freedom? Here? You have been brainwashed.

  • If Obfuscated traffic get lower priority using vpn just make connection slower

    Hopefully, things does not get blocked selectively.

  • DoubleDouble said: VPN sales gonna go up !!

    I dont think so, VPN can not save us from this thing. How can you say a VPN will help us in implementing partial NET Neutrality. ?

  • @hostdare

    America is probably one of the least democratic countries. The electoral college, gerrymandering, unlimited political donations... How do you think the NRA exists?

  • Geez, NRA comments on LET when they didn't do anything when Bush Sr banned firearms at the federal level and almost starting going after magazine capacity due to Bill Ruger's "Letter to Congress" that suggested 10 magical rounds. However NRA is "scary" to some people when they'll compromise due to past history of compromising.

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  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider

    I mean culture wise , it is known as free country to us .. maybe I am wrong . I am not American

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @FlamesRunner said:
    @hostdare

    America is probably one of the least democratic countries.

    You’re right. Copy-pasting from the ranked list:

    187. Oman
    188. Brunei
    189. Vatican City
    190. United States
    191. North Korea
    
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  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider
    edited December 2017

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

     21 USA
     32 India 
    

    which seems quite ok for such huge countries

    sarcasm , you missed it ?

    Thanked by 1netomx
  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    FlamesRunner said: How do you think the NRA exists?

    Partly through my Life Member contributions.

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