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Aff earning collection advice. Reputation on Cloudflexy(Rackhost.co ; Dedicenter)?
Hi community,
I'm writing this thread for my friend @gongyi who is running zhujiceping.com, one of the top 10 VPS marketing websites in China. He cannot explain this well in English. I'm here to help him.
He's been introducing products for providers LEB community to the Chinese marketing since 2014. He's done lots of sales for many awesome providers such as:
hostus.us ---- @AlexanderM
hostsolutions.ro ------@cociu
hostodo.com ------------ @Hassan
hostdare.com ------------ @hostdare
buyvm.net -------------@Francisco
rectified.net -------- @rectified
virmach.com ---------------- @VirMach
hostsailor.com--------------- @HostSailor
changeip.com--------------- @changeip
BandwagonHost --- Daniel.
budgetvm ,bandwagonhost , vultr ,digitalocean
on 18th, April, Cloudflexy(Rackhost) contacted him asking if he can promote products to Chinese market from LET. https://imgur.com/a/5LZ5q
It's already 2000+ sales for Cloudflexy. https://imgur.com/a/Ij4l8
He's been asking Cloudflexy to pay his earning. The provider has been putting his request on hold.
https://imgur.com/a/FUcFM without paying him in full.
He's been trying to communicate with provider and they just keep delaying the payment. https://imgur.com/a/KKzli
Affiliate Monthly Referrals Report
https://imgur.com/a/jv2Ln
In three months, only less than 1/3 of the earning is paid.
It's really appreciated if anyone can provide any advice for my friend.
Cheers,
Frank
Comments
@kyaky , thanks !
in fact , i have been here since 2012 !
Oh Jesus
I have heard gongyi and zhujiceping.com
I know the struggle. I only pay out PayPal and my stripe isn't even connected to PayPal, and I swear affiliate payout requests only occur right after bills are paid, and when people swear off of using PayPal for a few weeks.
The struggle is real, it's always a perfect storm. I've got a couple of payouts sitting right now, waiting for the account to fill back up during what seems to be a slow month.
Hopefully they're good for it and just like me, not always able to have enough money in the one place that matters for that one thing at the worst time.
Maybe he can join my affiliate program too and help me out so we all get some cash :P
I personally question if they're even a legit company at all. Allowing desktop Windows, charging dirt cheap pricing (after the coupons are applied), and lately changing the affiliate terms suddenly for my friend's account, probably applies to everyone:
My guess is that they're just not even making money. Dirt cheap prices that make almost no profit and then refunded orders. Apparently you still earn commissions on canceled orders so they're probably avoiding payments right now. You got a lot of those in that list of affs.
Oh and by the way, the above quote for max payout is $55 right? Well check this out:
According to their aff page, it shows $99 is the minimum payout but in the ticket, it read $55 is max.
You might get the payment if you wait, you might not, who knows. Up to 50% off coupons and 30% commissions doesn't equal they make money off of the services to pay the 6.5k you made so far.
gongyi and I have the same surname, tho we never meet in life.
We may share the same family tree 500 years ago.
And i am posting this, only to show my support to gongyi. ; D
i had got some money from some providers as the same 30% commissions in the past.
T here's still confusion about the cloudflexy.
The thing is that they're running on tiny profits, so where the heck they going to get the money to pay you? Thin air? Which providers gave you 30% and how much did they charge the customers for the services?
Here is the cancer of the aff. blogs.
The aff percentage is not that a big issue. The problem is if a provider actually pays. It's seen many providers in LEB appear and disappear after a few months which is a usual thing.
Wow, thats some impressive sales you have been doing!
Lets wait for a reply from @racksx though you provided enough proof.
Well hardware isn't exactly cheap, is it? Say the 512MB OVZ plan, add the 35% off coupon, makes it $7.15/year. Take commissions out, and they're left with $5/year to cover hosting costs. That's not a lot to pay for hardware and stuff you know?
LOL.
Jesus, what the fuck is wrong with owners these days.
That's some common core math right there.
Francisco
duck dicks.
That doesnt mean providers are allowed to not keep their promises though.
Waiting for those providers to show their proof.
That's a shame.
How come affiliate marketers outside of China that generate such numbers don't exist
You missed the part where the host is selling a 512MB OVZ for < $5/year or less.
If you do that, with a V4, you too will be moobs deep in tickets and going to the store to buy yourself a rope.
Francisco
LOL ok fair one.
No need, you can save a buck and re-use a network cable:
haha, I don't think a network cable would hold me, probably made in china haha.
I feel sorry for you mate, i hope your problem get solved soon, and we were happy doing business with you
Feel sorry to see this kind of mess happened to my partner @gonyi, we've been doing business together for a while. He is trusty and reliable. We got your back, brah
Sounds like the provider bit off more than he can chew. Didnt do enough calculations to ensure he had cash to pay people. If you note the rounded, odd payments to the aff suggests he was waiting for renewals to pay out.
can i get the money ?
I suggest you ask the provider for a payment plan, they may not have the money right now to spare, no point in demanding it, they will just shut you out.
Maybe suggest they pay you over 3 months.
Push mxroute and if I can't pay you quickly, I'll tell you why and I'll make sure you get every dime. Everyone hits less preferred situations, no one likes it, but you should only be hyping a product from someone you know values their word and will make sure it's always made right.
Yeah, I'm going there. I'm asking you to hype something different, help me grow so I can pay for help in support, and I'll keep money flowing to you. Mutual success. I do 25% referral, willing to negotiate.
I has no shame.
Raise your hand if you ever heard of cloudflexy before this thread.
I was going to tweet a link to this thread at them...but they don't have twitter and their web site just has a placeholder for the twitter link.
Their site also says they're owned by rack.sx. They also don't have twitter and their web site just has a placeholder for the twitter link.
I think the core problem here is the companies you've agreed to promote. Or possibly the market you're promoting into...Chinese customers generate a lot of the complaints here so more marginal hosts may struggle with their chargeback mania.
People who promote obviously sketchy or poorly-run hosts and then don't get paid...I'm having a hard time getting very sympathetic...
https://twitter.com/TheRackSx
Back in 2016 I wanted to give them a try. Their poorly designed website pushed me back, especially the logo. It felt really off and out of place. Just look at their twitter, lol. I eventually ended up going with wishosting. Now it's safe to say that I made a good decision.
How this could work out?
IIRC they rebranded to Cloudflexy this year. They completely abandoned their previous brand (shutting down the website, abandoning social media etc). Unfortunately there is no cloudflexy website in wayback machine, so you can't see how it was looking back then, but it was basically a one page placeholder. Now, it has at least some pages, but everything seems off as it has been with rackhost.co.
Their website is indeed kind of mess.
On their defence , as a costumer , I don't really have any complaints for that spec/price ratio , i have 2 VPS on them for couple months , and works fine , through I indeed feel heavy oversold problem.
I will say the following:
Lastly, not as a slight to the guy, but as a reminder to my self that I saw issues down the line with this group, I will include this as a reference to the above comments:
My services with him were never anything to write home about but when they worked, were not awful. The reason I stopped doing business with him is because he couldn't keep nodes online and kept having issues with abusive users. Hopefully he has learned to better manage a node by now... one would hope.
I don't know that I would suggest their services but of course I haven't tried them in quite a while so my opinion wouldn't be worth much.
my 2 cents.
Cheers!