@TheLinuxBug said: I hope Ramnode knows what they are getting them selves into, shared hosting is almost twice the work load of any regular VPS customer in my experience. I wonder how long till they realize this and re-evaluate if they want to continue?
I imagine that they have thought about this. In addition, the pricing is not particularly low, which should help cover the extra support costs.
"Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)
I imagine that they have thought about this. In addition, the pricing is not particularly low, which should help cover the extra support costs.
I also think their audience is different. I doubt RamNode has the money to advertise like the GoDaddy's and EIG's of the world to compete for shared hosting dollars from normies.
I have a feeling that their audience is fairly tech savvy and will likely end up selling a bunch of plans to devs/designers/technical folks who handle hosting for the normies.
And I agree on pricing, it's not cheap enough to get traction from the masses (and bring in mountains of headaches).
I imagine that they have thought about this. In addition, the pricing is not particularly low, which should help cover the extra support costs.
I also think their audience is different. I doubt RamNode has the money to advertise like the GoDaddy's and EIG's of the world to compete for shared hosting dollars from normies.
I have a feeling that their audience is fairly tech savvy and will likely end up selling a bunch of plans to devs/designers/technical folks who handle hosting for the normies.
And I agree on pricing, it's not cheap enough to get traction from the masses (and bring in mountains of headaches).
Indeed. They're aiming at a relatively technically competent customer who's willing to pay more for a quality service.
"Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)
I am not a Ramnode customer since quite some time, but I would trust them to do this right. I mean -I have one of those Hostmantis plans for a fraction of Ramnode‘s price and it is already very acceptable. With all the cheapskates at other providers (with even lower prices), Ramnode will surely not suffer from the worst clientele out there.
@Nick_A: Is there a way for resellers to easily take backups of all subaccounts at once?
@Nick_A said:
We updated our pricing a bit. $4 for shared, $8 for reseller. Making sure we have the right balance!
A drop from $7 to $4 (for shared) is significant -- I wonder what is behind it. Too few plans sold in X time? A delayed realization that the shared hosting market is intensely competitive? Or a marketing strategy: raise prices and then lower them to make the offers appear psychologically more attractive? Just wondering ...
"Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)
@Nick_A said: angstrom said: A drop from $7 to $4 (for shared) is significant
Really $5.25 -> $4, so not that significant.
Well, assuming that $5.25 was the old monthly price paid annually, then it would be better to compare this to the new monthly price paid annually, which is $3.6 ($43.20 annually). $5.25 --> $3.6 is a price reduction of 32%, which is approximately a third of the original price, which seems pretty significant.
Taking the old monthly price paid monthly, which was $7, and now $4, the reduction is 43%, even more significant.
"Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)
Ramnodes quality and reputation is well known. But still, $7/m is quite expensive. Hostrush has $9.99/year, dedicated IP, Litespeed, can host 5 domains
@Nick_A said:
It was the 25% off deal that was referred to several times earlier in this thread
Oh, I see, there was a coupon earlier. This explains $7 --> $5.25.
Even so, $5.25 --> $4 is a further reduction of 24%, which seems pretty significant. So there must have been a sudden change of strategy.
"Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)
@dergelbe said:
Ramnodes quality and reputation is well known. But still, $7/m is quite expensive.
Please see the last few posts in this thread...
Ignore the (likely) shill. Not the first time he's popped into a thread, where no one asked for recommendations, and made a sales pitch for that host
You may want to refrain from unfounded accusations. Unfake experiences should be welcome. I am very well familiar with Ramnode, I wouldn't use them for shared hosting though, for the simple reason I don't have that many domains. For 10+ domains they would be my first choice.
Obviously they aim at iPage etc. Not sure they can beat them in marketing budget, but certainly in quality.
@dergelbe said:
Ramnodes quality and reputation is well known. But still, $7/m is quite expensive.
Please see the last few posts in this thread...
Ignore the (likely) shill. Not the first time he's popped into a thread, where no one asked for recommendations, and made a sales pitch for that host
You may want to refrain from unfounded accusations. Unfake experiences should be welcome. I am very well familiar with Ramnode, I wouldn't use them for shared hosting though, for the simple reason I don't have that many domains. For 10+ domains they would be my first choice.
Obviously they aim at iPage etc. Not sure they can beat them in marketing budget, but certainly in quality.
Bro, you are recommending a host that nobody fucking knows that uses a gmail address on their who.is vs a top provider on LET that actually has people recommending them on other places like hacker news. I don't know your post just seems so out of place.
@Nick_A said:
It was the 25% off deal that was referred to several times earlier in this thread
Oh, I see, there was a coupon earlier. This explains $7 --> $5.25.
Even so, $5.25 --> $4 is a further reduction of 24%, which seems pretty significant. So there must have been a sudden change of strategy.
It's a buck 25 lol. No "sudden change of strategy" - just trying to find the right balance as I said initially. We weren't caught off guard or whatever it is you're driving at - we just started higher to see how demand looked while knowing full well we might need to make some changes until we find the sweet spot for this product. It's trial and error when you launch a new product.
Nick_A said: Please see the last few posts in this thread...
do you use white label domain on reseller plan? how about dedicated IP any discount/price changes?
No, we don't technically white label, but due to how we route mail through mailchannels (unbranded), and the fact that you can point customers to cpanel.yourdomain.com and whm.yourdomain.com which will not redirect to our parent domain (since we provision SSL certificates for all valid subdomains automatically), it is essentially white labelled. The only exception is r1soft backups. If a customer accesses backups, they will see our domain name in the URL.
you can point customers to cpanel.yourdomain.com and whm.yourdomain.com which will not redirect to our parent domain (since we provision SSL certificates for all valid subdomains automatically), it is essentially white labelled
The /cpanel redirect goes to the nodename.ramnode.com subdomain though, not https//whateverdomain:2083 like on some other cPanel hosts. Also rDNS is configured with the .ramnode.com URL. DNS is Ramnode-branded with rDNS as well.
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The closest to white label that you can get with our service is by visiting cpanel.yourdomain.com. That will not forward back to our hostname. If you provide /cpanel to your customers instead of cpanel.yourdomain.com, then it will forward to our hostname.
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@Nick_A said:
The closest to white label that you can get with our service is by visiting cpanel.yourdomain.com. That will not forward back to our hostname. If you provide /cpanel to your customers instead of cpanel.yourdomain.com, then it will forward to our hostname.
Just figured it might be an option to toggle or something that can be tweaked to use whatever domain you're on + port, since it's not like you can disable it for customer domains/force them to use the subdomain. And if anyone has used cPanel before they're likely familiar with that shortcut - along with like /webmail.
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@Nick_A said:
It was the 25% off deal that was referred to several times earlier in this thread
Oh, I see, there was a coupon earlier. This explains $7 --> $5.25.
Even so, $5.25 --> $4 is a further reduction of 24%, which seems pretty significant. So there must have been a sudden change of strategy.
It's a buck 25 lol. No "sudden change of strategy" - just trying to find the right balance as I said initially. We weren't caught off guard or whatever it is you're driving at - we just started higher to see how demand looked while knowing full well we might need to make some changes until we find the sweet spot for this product. It's trial and error when you launch a new product.
Fair enough. It was more the advertised price drop $7 --> $4 that seemed dramatic less than two weeks after the product launch.
"Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)
@Nick_A Alright, looking more interesting at $4/mo now with bonus Ramnode quality. Speaking of quality, would you disclose what hardware you use for your shared hosting ?
@FredQc said: @Nick_A Alright, looking more interesting at $4/mo now with bonus Ramnode quality. Speaking of quality, would you disclose what hardware you use for your shared hosting ?
Sure - same as our Premium and VDS lines. E3s, RAID10 SSDs.
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Well, I took the plunge and got myself a reseller account. Moved some 20ish low traffic sites over (EU location) and cannot complain until now. All decent and swift. Let's see how the server behaves as soon as it fills, but for the moment, everything is alright.
Have personal and company reseller accounts and a client shared account on the US server.
Only have a few low traffic sites on there currently. Things are running great so far though, hopefully doesn't get too bogged down as it fills up because it's really speedy at the moment.
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I suppose that's one way to ensure clients don't completely monopolize the shared platform to death. I'd hate to think of the evil iptables rulesets for people who don't have a private IP.
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I imagine that they have thought about this. In addition, the pricing is not particularly low, which should help cover the extra support costs.
"Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)
I also think their audience is different. I doubt RamNode has the money to advertise like the GoDaddy's and EIG's of the world to compete for shared hosting dollars from normies.
I have a feeling that their audience is fairly tech savvy and will likely end up selling a bunch of plans to devs/designers/technical folks who handle hosting for the normies.
And I agree on pricing, it's not cheap enough to get traction from the masses (and bring in mountains of headaches).
🐴 $2/mo 512MB KVM - Unmetered bandwidth. $1.25 for 256GB Block Storage - from BuyVM (aff)
Indeed. They're aiming at a relatively technically competent customer who's willing to pay more for a quality service.
"Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)
We updated our pricing a bit. $4 for shared, $8 for reseller. Making sure we have the right balance!
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Well hey now.. that you're here, how about some VPS specials too?!
Yep, and removed 25% off too
Moreover I still see $7 on 15GB EU plan in the Panel.
Oops, we'll fix that plan. The new base price is cheaper than the previous 25% off.
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Hmm with the reseller being at 8$/mo I might move some of my clients here :P
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That’s some fair pricing, given the service quality is as expected.
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This is the only reason I'm hesitating. To wait and see how it plays out..
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I am not a Ramnode customer since quite some time, but I would trust them to do this right. I mean -I have one of those Hostmantis plans for a fraction of Ramnode‘s price and it is already very acceptable. With all the cheapskates at other providers (with even lower prices), Ramnode will surely not suffer from the worst clientele out there.
@Nick_A: Is there a way for resellers to easily take backups of all subaccounts at once?
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A drop from $7 to $4 (for shared) is significant -- I wonder what is behind it. Too few plans sold in X time? A delayed realization that the shared hosting market is intensely competitive? Or a marketing strategy: raise prices and then lower them to make the offers appear psychologically more attractive? Just wondering ...
"Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)
Not something cPanel offers to my knowledge.
Really $5.25 -> $4, so not that significant.
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Well, assuming that $5.25 was the old monthly price paid annually, then it would be better to compare this to the new monthly price paid annually, which is $3.6 ($43.20 annually). $5.25 --> $3.6 is a price reduction of 32%, which is approximately a third of the original price, which seems pretty significant.
Taking the old monthly price paid monthly, which was $7, and now $4, the reduction is 43%, even more significant.
"Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)
It was the 25% off deal that was referred to several times earlier in this thread
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Sweet, price already adjusted and an account credit
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Ramnodes quality and reputation is well known. But still, $7/m is quite expensive. Hostrush has $9.99/year, dedicated IP, Litespeed, can host 5 domains
https://www.hostrush.com/
Please see the last few posts in this thread...
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Ignore the (likely) shill. Not the first time he's popped into a thread, where no one asked for recommendations, and made a sales pitch for that host
🐴 $2/mo 512MB KVM - Unmetered bandwidth. $1.25 for 256GB Block Storage - from BuyVM (aff)
Oh, I see, there was a coupon earlier. This explains $7 --> $5.25.
Even so, $5.25 --> $4 is a further reduction of 24%, which seems pretty significant. So there must have been a sudden change of strategy.
"Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)
You may want to refrain from unfounded accusations. Unfake experiences should be welcome. I am very well familiar with Ramnode, I wouldn't use them for shared hosting though, for the simple reason I don't have that many domains. For 10+ domains they would be my first choice.
Obviously they aim at iPage etc. Not sure they can beat them in marketing budget, but certainly in quality.
You did it in another host's offer thread before.
No one asked for your experience with another host, that no one mentioned, in this thread.
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do you use white label domain on reseller plan? how about dedicated IP any discount/price changes?
We only support unsupported OS!
Bro, you are recommending a host that nobody fucking knows that uses a gmail address on their who.is vs a top provider on LET that actually has people recommending them on other places like hacker news. I don't know your post just seems so out of place.
I must go and build my own little spot on the internet.
It's a buck 25 lol. No "sudden change of strategy" - just trying to find the right balance as I said initially. We weren't caught off guard or whatever it is you're driving at - we just started higher to see how demand looked while knowing full well we might need to make some changes until we find the sweet spot for this product. It's trial and error when you launch a new product.
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No, we don't technically white label, but due to how we route mail through mailchannels (unbranded), and the fact that you can point customers to cpanel.yourdomain.com and whm.yourdomain.com which will not redirect to our parent domain (since we provision SSL certificates for all valid subdomains automatically), it is essentially white labelled. The only exception is r1soft backups. If a customer accesses backups, they will see our domain name in the URL.
NYC - LA - ATL - SEA - NL - DDoS Protection
The /cpanel redirect goes to the nodename.ramnode.com subdomain though, not https//whateverdomain:2083 like on some other cPanel hosts. Also rDNS is configured with the .ramnode.com URL. DNS is Ramnode-branded with rDNS as well.
🐴 $2/mo 512MB KVM - Unmetered bandwidth. $1.25 for 256GB Block Storage - from BuyVM (aff)
The closest to white label that you can get with our service is by visiting cpanel.yourdomain.com. That will not forward back to our hostname. If you provide /cpanel to your customers instead of cpanel.yourdomain.com, then it will forward to our hostname.
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..and now you know why they can afford to shave off the $1.25 (They got rid of the person who does the mod_rewrite trickery)!
Just figured it might be an option to toggle or something that can be tweaked to use whatever domain you're on + port, since it's not like you can disable it for customer domains/force them to use the subdomain. And if anyone has used cPanel before they're likely familiar with that shortcut - along with like /webmail.
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Fair enough. It was more the advertised price drop $7 --> $4 that seemed dramatic less than two weeks after the product launch.
"Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)
bought one in EU and so far so good
idgaf
@Nick_A Alright, looking more interesting at $4/mo now with bonus Ramnode quality. Speaking of quality, would you disclose what hardware you use for your shared hosting ?
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Sure - same as our Premium and VDS lines. E3s, RAID10 SSDs.
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Thanks,good values.
Currently I use 2 providers.
Rackforest (SSD One)
MikroVPS (LH HU/Unl-Unl)
Well, I took the plunge and got myself a reseller account. Moved some 20ish low traffic sites over (EU location) and cannot complain until now. All decent and swift. Let's see how the server behaves as soon as it fills, but for the moment, everything is alright.
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Have personal and company reseller accounts and a client shared account on the US server.
Only have a few low traffic sites on there currently. Things are running great so far though, hopefully doesn't get too bogged down as it fills up because it's really speedy at the moment.
🐴 $2/mo 512MB KVM - Unmetered bandwidth. $1.25 for 256GB Block Storage - from BuyVM (aff)
I like how speedy it is so far. Do they run these on VMs? My server information shows 4 cores.
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Yeah, they are KVM VMs according to the WHM reseller panel.
I suppose that's one way to ensure clients don't completely monopolize the shared platform to death. I'd hate to think of the evil iptables rulesets for people who don't have a private IP.
Yeah, looks like they are running on an E3-1240v2 and 16GB RAM
Nothing fancy but running great none the less.
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